RE: Defining 'Compilation' (help?)

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: Defining 'Compilation' (help?)

Especially when it comes to newer digital remasters of analog sources. Some CDs I bought in the mid-80's sound like crap compared to their later versions. Fifties and Sixties music can sound like it was recorded last month if the right engineers are doing the remastering.

Hi JH, I will try and get around to actually listening to some music at some point! All I am doing at the moment is damn tagging every day! Cheers, Paul

[Jailhouse]

Re: Defining 'Compilation' (help?)

Different masterings, can sound very different.

Especially when it comes to newer digital remasters of analog sources. Some CDs I bought in the mid-80's sound like crap compared to their later versions. Fifties and Sixties music can sound like it was recorded last month if the right engineers are doing the remastering.

[Jailhouse]

Re: Defining 'Compilation' (help?)

I use:

the original LP release date for YEAR (eg. 1968).

I use my own tag named RECORDED for the original recording session date.

And I use my own tag named REMASTERED for the YEAR in which my particular CD was released (eg. 1999);rather than stating the very first/original CD release date (eg. 1986). However, as I have mentioned, it is not always so easy to find answers to the latter-mentioned!

Looks like a good, workable method.

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: Defining 'Compilation' (help?)

Different masterings, can sound very different.

Oggy, Well I plan to start a thread on listening; and one's abilities/objectives encompassing this topic. Cheers, Paul

[Oggy]

Re: Defining 'Compilation' (help?)

I never A/B COMPARED two different releases of the same CD? I always assume they would sound the same?! Paul

Different masterings, can sound very different.

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: Defining 'Compilation' (help?)

Does knowing the Remaster date, improve your listening experience?

If you have two copies of a CD, that sound, different, do you rip, both?

Oggy, I used to study LP liner notes inside out, so I guess I am inclined that way.

I never A/B COMPARED two different releases of the same CD? I always assume they would sound the same?! Paul

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: Defining 'Compilation' (help?)

In some ways, it is tragic, how much we have come to depend on the Internet, but without it, ripping a CD collection, would be, considerably more, labour intensive.

Even so, I try and keep things simple, but, hopefully accurate and ..... Google is your friend!

Oggy, Back in the day, one might have have scour their way through a plethora of microfilms down at the local library! Paul

[Oggy]

Re: Defining 'Compilation' (help?)

Thanks Oggy,

I clearly see your method, although I only ever rip ONE copy of a CD. If I own two copies of the same title, then I would just rip the one with the Bonus Track.

Perhaps I am giving myself too much donkey-work here. I mean, I would say a good 15 x mins is spent (per CD) sourcing the REMASTER date (of the CD version I own). If they stated it clearly in the liner notes then this would not be an issue. But I am damn running around like a headless chicken when I could be ripping! Unless, I just simply state the earliest REMASTER RELEASE DATE I can find.

Paul

Hey Paul,

Does knowing the Remaster date, improve your listening experience?

If you have two copies of a CD, that sound, different, do you rip, both?

[Oggy]

Re: Defining 'Compilation' (help?)

... where would we be in all this without the aid of INTERNET!!!???

In some ways, it is tragic, how much we have come to depend on the Internet, but without it, ripping a CD collection, would be, considerably more, labour intensive.

Even so, I try and keep things simple, but, hopefully accurate and ..... Google is your friend!

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: Defining 'Compilation' (help?)

... where would we be in all this without the aid of INTERNET!!!???

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: Defining 'Compilation' (help?)

If I have one version on CD, I would name it, Big Fun, even if it is a reissue / remaster, and not use any comment.

If I have two versions, I would name the original, Big Fun, and the reissue, Big Fun [Remaster], and put a year, or name in Comment, IF, I felt it necessary.

It's just my personal choice, even on The Beatles, I use:-

Revolver
Revolver [Mono]
Revolver [Remaster]

So I don't add the 2009, to the album name, as it's already obvious which, is which. I did put 2009 in Comments, but in all honesty, I know that, so for me, it is not necessary.

Thanks Oggy,

I clearly see your method, although I only ever rip ONE copy of a CD. If I own two copies of the same title, then I would just rip the one with the Bonus Track.

Perhaps I am giving myself too much donkey-work here. I mean, I would say a good 15 x mins is spent (per CD) sourcing the REMASTER date (of the CD version I own). If they stated it clearly in the liner notes then this would not be an issue. But I am damn running around like a headless chicken when I could be ripping! Unless, I just simply state the earliest REMASTER RELEASE DATE I can find.

Paul

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: Defining 'Compilation' (help?)

Hi, if I continue to struggle to locate the actual remastered date copy of the CDs I own, then I may well just blow it out altogether; or else state the very FIRST release date that I can source (whether it be Japan, US, or Timbuktu). Paul

[Oggy]

Re: Defining 'Compilation' (help?)

Hi again, Regarding 'Big Fun' (Miles), it appears that the FIRST CD was released in (Japan) 1987:

https://www.discogs.com/Miles-Davis-...elease/1384681

I am pretty sure the version I own is this (Europe):

https://www.discogs.com/Miles-Davis-...elease/3521630

Up to now I have been (in comments) stating the release-year of the actual version I own (assuming I have traced it down accurately). But I wondered if other users would, instead, state the ORIGINAL year? Thanks, Paul

Back to good old choices, but I do as you do. I always use the original (vinyl) release date, for every version I may have.

If I have one version on CD, I would name it, Big Fun, even if it is a reissue / remaster, and not use any comment.

If I have two versions, I would name the original, Big Fun, and the reissue, Big Fun [Remaster], and put a year, or name in Comment, IF, I felt it necessary.

It's just my personal choice, even on The Beatles, I use:-

Revolver
Revolver [Mono]
Revolver [Remaster]

So I don't add the 2009, to the album name, as it's already obvious which, is which. I did put 2009 in Comments, but in all honesty, I know that, so for me, it is not necessary.

Choices!!!

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: Defining 'Compilation' (help?)

You'd know if it was a Japanese import, I'm pretty certain you've got the European copy. The CD, may, have been manufactured in Japan.

OK, cheers. The plot thickens ...

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: Defining 'Compilation' (help?)

Yup. I use the original year of release, whether it was on CD or LP, in the Year tag. If I were to feel it necessary to store the release year of a subsequent CD release, I would use your method. However, I am something of a minimalist in that I don't feel a need to store in a track file a lot of information others find important. On the odd occasion where I do want such info, I'll look it up online or go find the CD.

Cheers JH,

I use:

the original LP release date for YEAR (eg. 1968).

I use my own tag named RECORDED for the original recording session date.

And I use my own tag named REMASTERED for the YEAR in which my particular CD was released (eg. 1999);rather than stating the very first/original CD release date (eg. 1986). However, as I have mentioned, it is not always so easy to find answers to the latter-mentioned!

Thanks,

Paul