RE: Defining 'Compilation' (help?)

[Oggy]

Re: Defining 'Compilation' (help?)

I'm about the complete opposite. In foobar, one of my playlists contains everything, save tracks I don't like. Most often, I listen to that playlist in Random mode, essentially treating my PC as a radio station with no ads, no deejays, and a very large and eclectic playlist.

You gotta love options.

Indeed! I'll create a playlist for non-critical, background music, to introduce my son to more music, and usual complete album, for myself.

Thanks for the new option, suggestion!

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: Defining 'Compilation' (help?)

I may also use original artwork, with a reissue, if it looks better. I have a Genesis box set, with horrible, cropped art sleeves, but, great sounding CDs. One aspect of a digital library, where you can have your cake, and eat it, is you can have the best cover, with the best sounding CD.

As Jailhouse mentioned, you can add bonus tracks, from a reissue, onto the original CD, in a playlist, or program it to play, repeat, or skip whichever tracks you choose. Sit back, relax, and enjoy your music, and your favourite tipple.

As much as I love vinyl, occasionally, a pause button, would come in handy, but generally, vinyl, or a digital file, I tend to play complete albums. The convenience of using your tablet as a programmable remote, can be rather useful!

Hi Oggy, Yes, it's good to be able to mix&match your favourite CDs with selected artwork. So you get the best of both worlds.

I have two versions of a Miles Davis CD ("Miles In The Sky"). The first copy I bought 20 years ago was a replicate of the original LP. Then, 10 years later, Columbia (or rather Sony) released the same CD but with a bonus track. The bonus track was actually an ALTERNATIVE TAKE of the third track ('Black Comedy'). And so, last week, I ripped only the CD version which had the ALT. TAKE track on it - and did not bother ripping the original version. Bonus/Alternative tracks are typically placed at the end of the CD, and so they do not disrupt the listening flow of the original release.

I also listen to albums either in their entirety, or just a few tracks on loop. Thanks, Paul

[Oggy]

Re: Defining 'Compilation' (help?)

I have a two-disc "'60s Hits" compilation title that AccruateRip shows as earlier individual Sony releases. I had to do a bit of tag editing to make everything look like what I see.

There's also a Glenn Miller box set comprised of earlier individual releases from which AR helpfully (or not) retrieved the art. Another instance where I'm glad I'm scanning my CD art.

I wonder if the companies do this to move discs that don't sell.

Yes, I've seen a few "doubles", where a second disc has been added to an earlier single CD, immediately creating a "new compilation". Never miss an opportunity for more sales, I suppose: a film, a new release, a death, a new collection is immediately available!

[Jailhouse]

Re: Defining 'Compilation' (help?)

As much as I love vinyl, occasionally, a pause button, would come in handy, but generally, vinyl, or a digital file, I tend to play complete albums.

I'm about the complete opposite. In foobar, one of my playlists contains everything, save tracks I don't like. Most often, I listen to that playlist in Random mode, essentially treating my PC as a radio station with no ads, no deejays, and a very large and eclectic playlist.

You gotta love options.

[Jailhouse]

Re: Defining 'Compilation' (help?)

If the CD is an exact duplicate issued with a different album name [...]

I have a two-disc "'60s Hits" compilation title that AccruateRip shows as earlier individual Sony releases. I had to do a bit of tag editing to make everything look like what I see.

There's also a Glenn Miller box set comprised of earlier individual releases from which AR helpfully (or not) retrieved the art. Another instance where I'm glad I'm scanning my CD art.

I wonder if the companies do this to move discs that don't sell.

[Oggy]

Re: Defining 'Compilation' (help?)

I rip all CDs as complete, even if duplicated on other CDs.

As I do, BUT, space is not a concern.

I may also use original artwork, with a reissue, if it looks better. I have a Genesis box set, with horrible, cropped art sleeves, but, great sounding CDs. One aspect of a digital library, where you can have your cake, and eat it, is you can have the best cover, with the best sounding CD.

As Jailhouse mentioned, you can add bonus tracks, from a reissue, onto the original CD, in a playlist, or program it to play, repeat, or skip whichever tracks you choose. Sit back, relax, and enjoy your music, and your favourite tipple.

As much as I love vinyl, occasionally, a pause button, would come in handy, but generally, vinyl, or a digital file, I tend to play complete albums. The convenience of using your tablet as a programmable remote, can be rather useful!

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: Defining 'Compilation' (help?)

But I never remove duplicate tracks in Best Of or compilation CDs.

Hi schmidj, OK, cheers. Thats handy to know. Paul

[mville]

Re: Defining 'Compilation' (help?)

BTW, does anyone know if, in FLAC, the semicolon separator for multiple entries works on the album title?

Now, in DBpoweramp Music Converter, Album and Album Sort are treated as single-value tags and not multi-value tags.

[schmidj]

Re: Defining 'Compilation' (help?)

I too generally rip everything as it is on the CD. Exceptions:

If the CD is an exact duplicate issued with a different album name (if in Accuraterip, comes up as in Accuraterip (yes I've had this happen with a number of "bargain priced" old Caribbean music CD's, I only keep one copy ripped. I usually add a comment referencing the other CD title. BTW, does anyone know if, in FLAC, the semicolon separator for multiple entries works on the album title?

If, as I have found on occasion, two versions of the same CD, one with more tracks, I only keep the rip of the one with the greater number of tracks.

But I never remove duplicate tracks in Best Of or compilation CDs.

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: Defining 'Compilation' (help?)

Paul, do you want everything you own in digital form? Rip everything. If not necessarily, then it's a question of how you want to listen to your music. Do you want to be able to choose to listen to "Bitches Brew" in its original form, with no extras? Rip both sets. If you can live with listening to those six tracks only from the later release, you can keep the original but not rip it. You always have the option to rip if later if you change your mind.

Another example: I have a CD which was re-released a few years later with extra tracks. There are no audible differences between the common tracks, so I ripped only the newer disc. However, I used the older album art because the newer art has "Bonus Tracks" and other extra verbiage on it. I have kept both discs.

Like Gary, I rip CDs in their entirety. When it comes to duplicates, I always keep original album tracks that I like and usually put duplicates into a "Duplicates" playlist, the exceptions being those that sound better or alternate versions that I like. If you rip both "Bitches Brew" releases, you could similarly move the first six tracks from "Complete Sessions" to an alternate playlist, thereby treating that release as an album of alternate takes.

That's really helpful and interesting JH. I appreciate that.

I have not even gotten anywhere close to 'playlists', so that's for later down the line ...

Yes, I would like to listen to the 'Bitches Brew' CD as per original release. It is also worth noting that in some instances (I think in the case of: 'Miles On The Corner' complete boxset), Columbia (now Sony) split up all the tracks from their original order and placed them in chronological order instead! So you don't even get the original recording as you typically do on the first, or final, disc!

"Digitally Remastered", "Bonus Materiel", "Previously Unissued", and other similar verbatim splattered across the front covered does indeed jeopardise the original artwork! But I guess it SELLS $$$$$

Cheers,

Paul

[Jailhouse]

Re: Defining 'Compilation' (help?)

Paul, do you want everything you own in digital form? Rip everything. If not necessarily, then it's a question of how you want to listen to your music. Do you want to be able to choose to listen to "Bitches Brew" in its original form, with no extras? Rip both sets. If you can live with listening to those six tracks only from the later release, you can keep the original but not rip it. You always have the option to rip if later if you change your mind.

Another example: I have a CD which was re-released a few years later with extra tracks. There are no audible differences between the common tracks, so I ripped only the newer disc. However, I used the older album art because the newer art has "Bonus Tracks" and other extra verbiage on it. I have kept both discs.

Like Gary, I rip CDs in their entirety. When it comes to duplicates, I always keep original album tracks that I like and usually put duplicates into a "Duplicates" playlist, the exceptions being those that sound better or alternate versions that I like. If you rip both "Bitches Brew" releases, you could similarly move the first six tracks from "Complete Sessions" to an alternate playlist, thereby treating that release as an album of alternate takes.

[garym]

Re: Defining 'Compilation' (help?)

Hi Gary, thanks. So you will tracks (within foobar etc) which have the SAME name?! But they are associated with a DIFFERENT album (title). Paul.

Correct.

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: Defining 'Compilation' (help?)

I rip all CDs as complete, even if duplicated on other CDs.

Hi Gary, thanks. So you will tracks (within foobar etc) which have the SAME name?! But they are associated with a DIFFERENT album (title). Paul.

[garym]

Re: Defining 'Compilation' (help?)

I rip all CDs as complete, even if duplicated on other CDs.

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: Defining 'Compilation' (help?)

Hi,

(I have posted this question here as I am not sure if some may view a 'Complete (boxset)' as being a compilation, of sorts.)

I have reached a situation where I need to make a decision as to how I want to deal with duplicate tracks.

For example, I have the regular Miles Davis 'Bitches Brew' (double-CD), and also the 'Complete Bitches Brew Sessions' (CD-boxset):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitches_Brew*Track_listing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Complete_Bitches_Brew_Sessions*Track_listing

As you can see, the first 6 tracks on the latter are exactly the same as the entire former-mentioned! (as you would expect).

And so my question is, please:

Would you rip the former (ie. the original double-CD) for the sake of having the album in it's original form; and also to save on real-estate? Or, lose the original and instead listen to it via the 'Complete (boxset)' version?

I guess this is a question of whether or not you consider yourself to be a purist!

Thanks,

Paul