RE: Defining 'Compilation' (help?)

[garym]

Re: Defining 'Compilation' (help?)

Hi,

The question mark appears upside down in the folder icon (when browsing via Windows):



But is displayed correctly within Foobar:



Cheers,

Paul

Thats because windows always does that in filenames. Foobar is reading tag, not filename. All is correct.

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: Defining 'Compilation' (help?)

Hi,

The question mark appears upside down in the folder icon (when browsing via Windows):



But is displayed correctly within Foobar:



Cheers,

Paul

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: Defining 'Compilation' (help?)

Definitely agree about using the same name as the cover!

Just a thought on Artist, and multi-value tags. If I recall correctly, didn't your Sony only display, one Composer, when using the semi-colon, as the multi-tag separator?

That being the case, you may want to see if the Sony acts in the same manner, with Artist.

Any news on your Sony?

Thanks Oggy,

The Sony Walkman will display joint Artists and Composers providing a: '/' is used instead of a ';'. I think it was yourself you even suggested this substitute!

Funnily enough Sony emailed this afternoon confirming that they need another week with the device because the diagnostic process is taking longer than expected ...

Paul

[Oggy]

Re: Defining 'Compilation' (help?)

None of your options. I'd label it the name on the actual CD (you left off the ?). I'd use:

What I Say? Volume 1

(and I'd have multi artists, as:

ARTIST: Miles Davis;Keith Jarrett
ALBUM ARTIST: Miles Davis

Hi Paul,

Definitely agree about using the same name as the cover!

Just a thought on Artist, and multi-value tags. If I recall correctly, didn't your Sony only display, one Composer, when using the semi-colon, as the multi-tag separator?

That being the case, you may want to see if the Sony acts in the same manner, with Artist.

Any news on your Sony?

Oggy

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: Defining 'Compilation' (help?)

None of your options. I'd label it the name on the actual CD (you left off the ?). I'd use:

What I Say? Volume 1

(and I'd have multi artists, as:

ARTIST: Miles Davis;Keith Jarrett
ALBUM ARTIST: Miles Davis

Hi,

All lookin' good in Foobar!:



Paul

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: Defining 'Compilation' (help?)

What I Say? Volume 1

Interestingly, the name of the album has a question mark, but the title track itself does not!

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: Defining 'Compilation' (help?)

.. just need to fathom out who the damn Producer is now! The only name I can find other than the bands is Enrico Merlin. But I don't know know in which what he contributed? Why do they keep omitting such important info. from the CD liner notes!

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: Defining 'Compilation' (help?)

None of your options. I'd label it the name on the actual CD (you left off the ?). I'd use:

What I Say? Volume 1

(and I'd have multi artists, as:

ARTIST: Miles Davis;Keith Jarrett
ALBUM ARTIST: Miles Davis

OK, cheers,

I assumed parentheses might be applied.

Yes, there is a '?'. I was just was not sure if you could include punctuation such characters within dBpa (I am sure I saw an exclusions check-box at some point a while back?).

How you have suggesting notating it is actually the way dBpa notates it by default!

I will follow your advice for ARTIST because on the CD cover is states: 'Featuring Keith Jarrett' - and I am not going to start diggin' myself another hole (like I did over 'Remaster/Reissue' dates) with a 'featuring' tag!

Paul

[garym]

Re: Defining 'Compilation' (help?)

Cheers Gary,

So would you entitle them the same as are how they are titled by the record label, please? eg:

'What I Say [Vol. 1]' and 'What I Say [Vol. 2]'

'What I Say (Vol. 1)' and 'What I Say (Vol. 2)'

'What I Say - Volume 1' and 'What I Say - Volume 2'

Paul

None of your options. I'd label it the name on the actual CD (you left off the ?). I'd use:

What I Say? Volume 1

(and I'd have multi artists, as:

ARTIST: Miles Davis;Keith Jarrett
ALBUM ARTIST: Miles Davis

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: Defining 'Compilation' (help?)

For me, I'd label as two separate CDs because they were issued as two separate CDs. This could be similar to Bob Dylan's Greatest Hits, Vol 1, Vol 2, and Vol 3. These were 3 independent releases on vinyl and on CD. Now, if they re-release all 3 of those CDs as a new combined box set, with additional tracks, I might buy that and then rip it as whatever the name of the new box set is....

Cheers Gary,

So would you entitle them the same as are how they are titled by the record label, please? eg:

'What I Say [Vol. 1]' and 'What I Say [Vol. 2]'

'What I Say (Vol. 1)' and 'What I Say (Vol. 2)'

'What I Say - Volume 1' and 'What I Say - Volume 2'

Paul

[garym]

Re: Defining 'Compilation' (help?)

Hi,

Not quite a 'compilation' category question, but rather than start a fresh thread I have chosen to tag it onto here:

I have two CDs by Miles Davis: "What I Say" - Vol. 1 and "What I Say" - Vol. 2:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_I_Say%3F

They are both single CDs and are retailed individually. In short, the material consists of excerpts from three concerts all perform by the same ensemble. But again, each CD is a CD in it's own right - if you get my drift.

Now, how do you deal with this, please? Do you rip them as separate entities and title them (in 'title') as:

'What I Say' [Vol. 1] and 'What I Say' [Vol. 2];

OR placed in the same master folder:

'What I Say' [Vol. 1 & 2];

OR treated like a boxset (even though it is not):

'What I Say' [disc 1/2] & 'What I Say' [disc 2/2]?

I actually do not have too many 'volume' editions, but nevertheless, it is something which I would like to try and file correctly.

Many thanks,

Paul

For me, I'd label as two separate CDs because they were issued as two separate CDs. This could be similar to Bob Dylan's Greatest Hits, Vol 1, Vol 2, and Vol 3. These were 3 independent releases on vinyl and on CD. Now, if they re-release all 3 of those CDs as a new combined box set, with additional tracks, I might buy that and then rip it as whatever the name of the new box set is....

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: Defining 'Compilation' (help?)

Hi,

Not quite a 'compilation' category question, but rather than start a fresh thread I have chosen to tag it onto here:

I have two CDs by Miles Davis: "What I Say" - Vol. 1 and "What I Say" - Vol. 2:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_I_Say%3F

They are both single CDs and are retailed individually. In short, the material consists of excerpts from three concerts all perform by the same ensemble. But again, each CD is a CD in it's own right - if you get my drift.

Now, how do you deal with this, please? Do you rip them as separate entities and title them (in 'title') as:

'What I Say' [Vol. 1] and 'What I Say' [Vol. 2];

OR placed in the same master folder:

'What I Say' [Vol. 1 & 2];

OR treated like a boxset (even though it is not):

'What I Say' [disc 1/2] & 'What I Say' [disc 2/2]?

I actually do not have too many 'volume' editions, but nevertheless, it is something which I would like to try and file correctly.

Many thanks,

Paul

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: Defining 'Compilation' (help?)

In music you would know well, Kind Of Blue, has CDs pressed, with the incorrect speed, and hence pitch, of tracks 1-3, Side 1, in LP terms.

Hi Oggy,

Apparently, with Kind Of Blue, I believe the engineer ran two recordings simultaneously (ie. the second recording running in parallel in case the former malfunctioned). The former tape deck was running slightly faster than the latter. The former tape deck recording was the released version. But, it was discovered that the latter had a superior sound quality in terms of bass (because of the slower speed).

Paul

[Oggy]

Re: Defining 'Compilation' (help?)

I never A/B COMPARED two different releases of the same CD? I always assume they would sound the same?! Paul

Hi Paul,

In music you would know well, Kind Of Blue, has CDs pressed, with the incorrect speed, and hence pitch, of tracks 1-3, Side 1, in LP terms.

Some Remasters sound far superior to the original CDs, which were often done in a hurry, from tapes equalised for vinyl mastering, or tapes several generations removed from the original.

On the other hand, "Remastered from the original master tape", can cover a multitude of sins - what, master tape? Smiley-face equalisation, with reduced dynamic range, often so loud, you can get distortion, on the few peaks, the compression hasn't removed! Add in, tape deterioration, drop outs, etc. Remasters can often sound far worse, than the original - they certainly don't all sound the same.

Oggy

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: Defining 'Compilation' (help?)

Looks like a good, workable method.

Thanks. Well its a good method albeit time consuming. I am looking at slightly modifying what I tag for 'mastering'; which is why I have just started a fresh thread. I need to make a couple of important decisions. Cheers, Paul