RE: Ripping Level Question (help?)

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

Why use sort tags if you're putting things in the same order as regular tag. That's the entire point. ARTIST: John McLauglin and then ARTISTSORT: McLauglin, John.

Thanks Gary,

But I am not quite with you - my retard!

Do you mean that I don't even need to be using an ARTIST_SORT tag at all?

Cheers,

Paul

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

... here is how I have just tagged 'Chick Corea with Bela Fleck' CD. As I say, I am thinking this might be a more reliable and solid system of tagging than (say): 'Chick Corea & Bela Fleck'. Cheers.

[garym]

Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

Hi,

I have a question regarding ALBUM_ARTIST, please.

I have been tagging a certain way but today I am wondering if I should have used a different protocol, in this instance.

I ripped a CD by Santana and John McLaughlin called: "Invitation To Illumination". It is a JOINT CD (ie. collaboration):

https://www.discogs.com/Carlos-Santa...elease/4845233

For ARTIST and ALBUM_ARTIST I typed: 'John McLaughlin & Carlos Santana'. For ARTIST_SORT and ALBUM_ARTIST_SORT I, again, typed: 'John McLaughlin & Carlos Santana'. Personally, I like the way this data appears in Foobar:

[ATTACH=CONFIG]1724[/ATTACH]

However, I dare say that some might prefer to use - for ARTIST_SORT and ALBUM_ARTIST_SORT - (something like): 'McLaughlin, John; Santana, Carlos'?

I ask because this is the first CD I have copied which is a collaboration; and I do have small a handful more (eg. 'Chick Corea & Bella Fleck' - "The Enchantment") to rip ...

Cheers,

Paul

Why use sort tags if you're putting things in the same order as regular tag. That's the entire point. ARTIST: John McLauglin and then ARTISTSORT: McLauglin, John.

[garym]

Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

Thanks Gary,

So you do nothing (regarding the word 'The') during the ripping/tagging process; and instead just leave it to your media-player (through the way you have configured it to interpret such data) to handle any terms such as 'The', 'La', etc?

Cheers,

Paul

Correct.

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

As an aside, my foobar settings and my other server/player settings allow me to tell it to ignore the "The" when sorting by alphabet. So I don't have to do anything to make sure that I find "The One Truth Band" under "O" in any listing/browsing. See pics:

[ATTACH=CONFIG]1725[/ATTACH]
[ATTACH=CONFIG]1726[/ATTACH]

Thanks Gary,

So you do nothing (regarding the word 'The') during the ripping/tagging process; and instead just leave it to your media-player (through the way you have configured it to interpret such data) to handle any terms such as 'The', 'La', etc?

Cheers,

Paul

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

Hi,

I have a question regarding ALBUM_ARTIST, please.

I have been tagging a certain way but today I am wondering if I should have used a different protocol, in this instance.

I ripped a CD by Santana and John McLaughlin called: "Invitation To Illumination". It is a JOINT CD (ie. collaboration):

https://www.discogs.com/Carlos-Santa...elease/4845233

For ARTIST and ALBUM_ARTIST I typed: 'John McLaughlin & Carlos Santana'. For ARTIST_SORT and ALBUM_ARTIST_SORT I, again, typed: 'John McLaughlin & Carlos Santana'. Personally, I like the way this data appears in Foobar:



However, I dare say that some might prefer to use - for ARTIST_SORT and ALBUM_ARTIST_SORT - (something like): 'McLaughlin, John; Santana, Carlos'?

I ask because this is the first CD I have copied which is a collaboration; and I do have small a handful more (eg. 'Chick Corea & Bella Fleck' - "The Enchantment") to rip ...

Cheers,

Paul

[garym]

Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

Hi,

I just found another John McLaughlin CD to rip. I forgot about this one. It's by the 'One Truth Band'.

I am going to tag it the way same as his 'M.O.' band: 'One Truth Band, The'.

Paul

As an aside, my foobar settings and my other server/player settings allow me to tell it to ignore the "The" when sorting by alphabet. So I don't have to do anything to make sure that I find "The One Truth Band" under "O" in any listing/browsing. See pics:

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

Hi,

I just found another John McLaughlin CD to rip. I forgot about this one. It's by the 'One Truth Band'.

I am going to tag it the way same as his 'M.O.' band: 'One Truth Band, The'.

Paul

[Oggy]

Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

Of course, I'm referring to the band The The. There must be at least one person using the "<band>, The" Artist Sort with a library entry of "The, The."

I may have, but the file may be infected!

[Jailhouse]

Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

You mean (eg.): "I listen to the The Grateful Dead"?

I'm sure more than one Deadhead has said exactly that.

Of course, I'm referring to the band The The. There must be at least one person using the "<band>, The" Artist Sort with a library entry of "The, The."

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

JH,

I'm sure that someone, somewhere, refers to The The as "The."

You mean (eg.): "I listen to the The Grateful Dead"?

lol

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

Hi JH,

Well, I'll be damned--so it does! And 'Mahavishnu Orchestra' on the spine. I wonder, who makes these decisions?

I suppose it's a little bit like people (in Liverpool at least!) who say: "I'm going to the Asda"!

I'm sorry, but I'm on the last page of the list of people to ask about information of this kind, quite possibly at the bottom. I pay little attention to it.

It's OK mate. I thought I would ask on the off chance of you knowing. I have posted the question on another forum now, thanks.

Paul

[Jailhouse]

Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

"Grateful Dead" is correct, not "The Grateful Dead"

However, to confuse matters further, the band is often referred to as "the Grateful Dead" (with a small-t "the"). Even their website says it's the "Official Site of the Grateful Dead."

I'm sure that someone, somewhere, refers to The The as "The."

[garym]

Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

Well, I'll be damned--so it does! And 'Mahavishnu Orchestra' on the spine. I wonder, who makes these decisions?

Always somewhat odd. For example, early on "Pink Floyd" were known as "The Pink Floyd"


And then there is Eagles (the actual name on album covers of the band better known as "The Eagles") But "The Beatles" were never just "Beatles". But "Grateful Dead" is correct, not "The Grateful Dead"

[Jailhouse]

Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

Hi JH, The recording of 'The Inner Mounting Flame' states, on the front cover, 'The Mahavishnu Orch.'.

Well, I'll be damned--so it does! And 'Mahavishnu Orchestra' on the spine. I wonder, who makes these decisions?

Perhaps you can kindly assist me with something, please - as you obviously like the music of the M.O. I am ripping 'Birds Of Fire' at the moment and the CD (and Wiki, and other online sources) state that the album was recorded at two locations: Columbia Studios (NY) and Trident Studios (UK). I would really like to know, please, which specific TRACKS were recorded at which STUDIO? This is because I tag each track individually in this particular regard.

I'm sorry, but I'm on the last page of the list of people to ask about information of this kind, quite possibly at the bottom. I pay little attention to it.