RE: Ripping Level Question (help?)

[mville]

Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

OK, cheers Gary. If I am mostly going to use Foobar, and quite possibly purchase a Amazon Fire Tablet (as the faulty Sony has been returned), then would you bother (if you where I!) to change all of my '/' to a ';'? Paul

You probably need to get your head around the difference between a single tag and a multi-value tag and which tags are single and multi-value, as not all tags are multi-value e.g. the Album tag.

For a multi-value tag, Illustrate uses the semi-colon purely as a searator for display purposes. Example, Composer and Composer Sort are multi-value tags:
Composer Sort = Lennon, John; McCartney, Paul

here, composer sort holds 2 separate data values Lennon, John and McCartney, Paul with no semi-colon. The semi-colon is purely for display.

However for a single tag:
Album = Weebles; The Greatest Hits

here, album contains a single value Weebles; The Greatest Hits with the semi-colon contained within the data.

What makes this even more complicated is that single and multi-value tag support differs for different file/tagging formats (ID3v1, ID3v2.3, ID3v2.4, Vorbis Comments, iTunes MP4, WMA, APE etc.) and is not standardized across all server/client/player software.

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

id wait for tablet and see how it reads things

OK, thanks Gary. I am still screaming and jumping up & down at Amazon for a refund for the faulty Sony Walkman. The dispute has dragged on for nearly 8 x weeks now! Paul

[garym]

Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

OK, cheers Gary. If I am mostly going to use Foobar, and quite possibly purchase a Amazon Fire Tablet (as the faulty Sony has been returned), then would you bother (if you where I!) to change all of my '/' to a ';'? Paul

id wait for tablet and see how it reads things

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

yes. I use ;

OK, cheers Gary. If I am mostly going to use Foobar, and quite possibly purchase a Amazon Fire Tablet (as the faulty Sony has been returned), then would you bother (if you where I!) to change all of my '/' to a ';'? Paul

[garym]

Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

Cheers Gary,

Fair enough if you don't use them. Pointless having something you don't need! But you would use - if you wanted to tag MULTIPLE Producers or Labels etc - semi colons ( to separate their names? eg.:

(PRODUCER) Reggie Lucas; Pete Cosey

(LABEL) Verve; Polydor

Whereas I have used:

Reggie Lucas / Pete Cosey

Verve / Polydor

Thanks,

Paul

yes. I use ;

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

I don't use sort tags. But if I did I would use comma. Nothing else would make any sense.

Cheers Gary,

Fair enough if you don't use them. Pointless having something you don't need! But you would use - if you wanted to tag MULTIPLE Producers or Labels etc - semi colons ( to separate their names? eg.:

(PRODUCER) Reggie Lucas; Pete Cosey

(LABEL) Verve; Polydor

Whereas I have used:

Reggie Lucas / Pete Cosey

Verve / Polydor

Thanks,

Paul

[garym]

Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

Cheers Gary, So you use a comma (,) for Artist Sort and Album Sort? Paul

I don't use sort tags. But if I did I would use comma. Nothing else would make any sense.

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

Cheers Gary, So you use a comma (,) for Artist Sort and Album Sort? Paul

[garym]

Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

Probably, but don't really know.

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

Yes. Or have to edit tags.

Would you say the Foobar is pretty much universal in regards to how it handles dBpa tagging, please? Or is it more unique? Cheers.

[garym]

Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

Gary, So you could have a situation where you tag your albums a certain way, but you have to live with the fact that not all of your players will recognise/handle the texts in an identical manner? Cheers.

Yes. Or have to edit tags.

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

Chick Corea;Jack DeJhonette;Lee Konitz;Miroslav Vitous

I am kind of wondering if I should have used your method or not. So using a semicolon instead of a hyphen.

But, as I say, Foobar is handling it OK, and the Sony Walkman has been sent back to Amazon for a refund ...

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

; or alternatives are for multi-value tags. Commas in sort tags are just separating first and last name. These are two differerent things. It all depends on what your players will or will not recognize. Just test on your players.

Gary, So you could have a situation where you tag your albums a certain way, but you have to live with the fact that not all of your players will recognise/handle the texts in an identical manner? Cheers.

[garym]

Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

Hi,

Because, on my Sony Walkman (which has since been returned to Amazon), the ';' (semicolon) separator did not work as it should, I was advised to use the '/' instead. For example, for a 'Producers' tag I might type: Teo Macero / Miles Davis'; or for a 'Label' tag: Legacy / Columbia. In other words for all these types of tags I have used this legend.

For Artist Sort and Album Sort, I have used the ',' (comma). So: 'Davis, Miles' or 'Coltrane, John'.

Do you think this is OK, please? My searches in Foobar are successful and without issue.

Cheers,

Paul

; or alternatives are for multi-value tags. Commas in sort tags are just separating first and last name. These are two differerent things. It all depends on what your players will or will not recognize. Just test on your players.

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

Hi,

Because, on my Sony Walkman (which has since been returned to Amazon), the ';' (semicolon) separator did not work as it should, I was advised to use the '/' instead. For example, for a 'Producers' tag I might type: Teo Macero / Miles Davis'; or for a 'Label' tag: Legacy / Columbia. In other words for all these types of tags I have used this legend.

For Artist Sort and Album Sort, I have used the ',' (comma). So: 'Davis, Miles' or 'Coltrane, John'.

Do you think this is OK, please? My searches in Foobar are successful and without issue.

Cheers,

Paul