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Hi, I had been looking for a rare disc and was unable to find one for purchase, anywhere, Discogs included. But somebody I know offered to lend me theirs. So I ripped it to flac and burned a CD-R disc with flac files. When I put it into the drive dBpoweramp ripper couldn't read it, it just said looking for disc. So I googled a bit and found an article that suggested WAVE files would work better, so I burned another with WAVE files. Again, the same with dBpoweramp ripper, it can't read the disc. But when I put the disc into a CD player it plays beautifully. The idea was to have a back up copy of the disc that I could rip again if needed. I did this with Macbook Air, creating a Burn file, adding the WAVE files to the folder, then burning the disc, and all seemed to go well. Obviously I am doing something wrong, could somebody please offer some advice on how to fix this so I can make a back up disc? Thanks in advance!
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Thank you for the reply. I kind of figured that out about the FLAC files. That is why I tried WAVE. I have other CD-R discs that were made years ago of other albums, and dBpoweramp reads those no problem. That's why I am saying that I must be doing something wrong, because I know it is possible from the old CD-R's that I have that the program recognizes and will rip. I have ripped about 30 of them already so I know it can be done. My question is what am I doing wrong that the program can't read the discs that I burned, but the disc player does?Comment
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Update on this, I will have to try tomorrow, it is late now, but apparently you can make an exact copy of a CD or DVD using disk Utility and creating a new "disk image" on Mac and then burning it also from the disk Utility.Comment
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You have to tell Audio Discs (Redbook Standard) from Data Discs containing audio files. dBpoweramp can rip Audio Discs (those you can and could buy in stores), but it does not handle data discs. Modern disc players can replay Audio Discs as well as data discs with audio files.
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Hi Dat Ei, I have already ripped about 30 CD-R's that were burned 20 years ago. So it can be done. I think I have the solution but will confirm tomorrow, if I have another blank still. I have some on order, so if I don't find a blank tomorrow it will be a few days for the new ones to arrive, the trick seems to be in cloning the original to a "disc Image" and then burning the disc image while selecting "CD-DVD" as the format.Comment
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CD-R's can be burned as Audio Discs or Data Discs. It's a matter how you burn the CD-R. Audio Disc's and Data Disc's are different types!
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Update, and a question also. So I ran out of blanks and got some more today. I did manage to burn a disc that dBpoweramp reads, and rips. I did this by ripping the disc with Apple Music in AIFF format and then creating a playlist of the album. Then selecting the playlist, next setting a slow burn speed 8X, and then Audio disc, and then burn to disc, disc text was ticked in Apple Music. All the album data was there, album name, track list by name, artist etc. all there in the play list, presumably taken from the disc itself because Musicbrainz, Disgogs and indeed an internet search brought up nothing except a track list with no other info. So when I put the burned disc into the drive DB recognised all the tracks by "Track 1" etc and length. But no album data came with it, no track names, no album name and no artist. However when inserting the disc in the drive the disc icon on the desktop did display the name of the artist and album so it must have been there, just not in DB. So I entered it all manually and ripped a test. I also photographed the cover and uploaded the photo for album art. After ripping I ejected the disc and put it back in again, and of course all the data was blank again like the first time. So I went to ripper settings and selected retrieve metadata from DB cache, and all the data and artwork was there again. So my question is, after entering all the data manually and ripping the disc, is there any way to tag it, or store it so that next time the disc is inserted in the drive it is recognised with all the album data?
Thanks in advance for any tips or help.Comment
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dBpoweramp calculates a checksum from the table of content of an Audio disc. This checksum is used to search in the databases like GD3, Discogs or MusicBrainz for metadata for that Audio CD. If the search is successful dBpoweramp offers the results. Another method of dBpoweramp is to read the metadata from the CD text, which might be stored on the Audio Disc itself.
What you have done, is to rip the CD to audio files and than to burn a new Audio Disc based on the ripped audio files. That can lead to the point that the table of content is different form the original Audio Disc and furthermore the checksum for the search in the databases is a different one. The search can find no result at all or a false result, but not the metadata of the orginal.
Then you have typed in the metadata by hand before ripping the copy. Those metadata are stored in the newly ripped audio files, but dBpoweramp doesn't associate those metadata with your copy. If you insert the copy again, dBpoweramp won't find anything in the databases again. But if you ask dBpoweramp to search in the cached data, it will find the metadata that you have typed in already.
If you want a 1:1 copy of the original Audio CD, then use a program, that is able to copy Audio CDs. If you just want audio files, then use dBpoweramp and rip the original Audio CD. Ripping to audio files and then rebuild a new Audio disc based on the audio files will not create an 1:1 copy of the original Audio Disc to my understanding.
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Hi Dat Ei, I downloaded a burning program, will try again tomorrow. They say it will make a 1:1 copy of an audio disc. I will try again. CheersComment
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Hi Dat Ei, I won! At last! The answer wasn't in using another burning program, I downloaded a program called Burn especially for Mac, but that also didn't work for me. I am posting this here with the thought that it might just help somebody else with the same problem. The answer was back in Apple Music, AND the selection in DB of where to get the metadata. So, in Apple music you rip your disc direct into the Music app (this can later be deleted). After the disc has been imported into Apple Music (in AIFF format)you create a play list of that album. In settings for burn you MUST use burn as SONGS, and also make sure the copy text option is checked, then burn to disc. After doing this, the desktop icon displayed the artist and album name, so I am thinking PROGRESS! Then I ejected the disc as before and opened DB, put the disc in again, and again the information was blank, so I thought what now? Then I went back to ripper settings and get metadata from and selected "disc", as soon as I did that everything was there! Except art work, so I have a photo of the album cover on my laptop (and phone) and can import it if ever needed again. I am old school and not super tech friendly, it has taken me days (and a few blanks) to figure this out so I am hoping that if somebody else has a similar issue that it might help. The disc in question is by Ann Jangle titled Acoustic Archive and was given to my daughter by Ann years ago. The original is showing signs of wear and there is no data at all on the internet about this album, even Ann doesn't have one anymore, and there are none for sale anywhere, thats why I wanted to make a back up copy while the original was still readable.
Hope this helps someone else along the way, it was a mission for me, but now I know how if there is a next time.
Cheers!
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Hey Ian,
if you would have made a 1:1 copy of the CD, dBpoweramp would have been able to identify and search the metadata from the online databases. The workflow you have chosen leads IMHO to the point, that the metadata is copied into the "CD Text" of the Audio Disc and therefore dBpoweramp can only show the metadata, if you enable dBpa to read "CD Text".
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Hi Dat Ei, thank you for your reply. The problem is that the disc is not on the internet anywhere at all. It's not even on Ann's home page. Certainly not in Discogs or Musicbrainz, believe me I have searched. So the only data that is "retrievable" is on the disc itself. No online server or database has it. It's not on Apple Music, or Amazon Music, where I have previously found MP3 downloads and albums that I can't find anywhere else. Another site MP3million also has a lot of MP3 albums that are hard to find. Ann has another called Kicking Sawdust that is also unobtainable, but MP3million does have that one, and Amazon as well, perhaps also Discogs listed but none available for sale. But this one "Acoustic Archive" is nowhere to be found. So, it seemed to me that the only source of data was on the disc. In any case, it worked at least I now have a back up disc with the data that DB will recognize and rip.
Thanks again
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Hey Ian,
if I've understood you right then you wanted to make just a copy of that ol' rare CD. Right? Therefore you don't need dBpa at all, just a copy program that can copy Audio Discs 1:1. If you wanted to have (lossless) digital audio files of that CD too, then you can rip the disc with dBpa, even though there are no metadata available online. You can edit the metadata within dBpa before ripping, or add the metadata with any ID tag tool after ripping. And yes if you have lossless digital audio files, which are tagged, you can reproduce an Audio Disc with included metadata in the "CD Text". That way a lot of Audio Disc players (hifi system or car hifi system) can show metadata in their displays during playback.
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Hi Dat Ei, yes, that about sums it up. I keep 2 library's of all of my discs, one in flac and another in MP3. I have also ripped all of my DVD's into iso format, IE cloned them. On my laptop I only have 512gb memory, and I don't really trust hard drives all that much after other friends have had fatal drive crashes. So on the laptop all I have is the MP3 library because of space, but on 3 other SSD external hard drives I keep both the FLAC, MP3 as well as the DVD iso files. So everything is ripped to lossless, and either converted or ripped to MP3. So my worry was that the original disc, that Ol' rare CD is showing signs of age/ wear and tear. It still rips, and I think accurately, I got all AR secure results and the playback is flawless, but when all is said and done the CD disk is the only real "fool proof" back up as hard drives do fail. I have spent 100's of hours ripping discs to hard drives but if something happens to the drives, or if they get stolen, at least I still have the discs to fall back on and start again.
I'm sure I am over the top on all of this, but after 25 years I still have all my discs while I have had a few computers. One of Ann's other discs I haven't been able to find any CD discs or even a FLAC download that works in my part of the world, so I had to settle for an MP3 download. But I do like the security of having a hard copy as the ultimate back up.
Cheers and thanks for the info , tech is not really my thing, I was born before computers were a thing, so it's pretty much catch up all the way for me.
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