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  • Oggy
    dBpoweramp Guru

    • Apr 2015
    • 697

    Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

    Originally posted by monsterjazzlick
    Gee, I thought I was serious about music/listening, but you guys put me to shame!
    Paul, have a quick look at the John Hiatt, thread. Timothy Wright, garym and Dat Ei, have some great album suggestions.

    Yes, these guys are definitely serious about their music. Have great taste in music, too!

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    • monsterjazzlick
      dBpoweramp Guru

      • Jul 2017
      • 1764

      Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

      Oggy,

      Cheers, I looked at the music discussion thread, thanks.

      If the album has VARIOUS composers, then do you leave the 'dBpa' default verbatim as: "<various composers>"?

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      Or do you remove the: "<" and ">", please?

      Thanks,

      Paul

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      • Oggy
        dBpoweramp Guru

        • Apr 2015
        • 697

        Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

        Originally posted by monsterjazzlick
        Oggy,

        Cheers, I looked at the music discussion thread, thanks.

        If the album has VARIOUS composers, then do you leave the 'dBpa' default verbatim as: "<various composers>"?

        [ATTACH=CONFIG]1425[/ATTACH]

        Or do you remove the: "<" and ">", please?

        Thanks,

        Paul
        Leave as is, all that means, is that the album has, more than one composer.

        The tags look good, except the unnecessary, Disc 1!
        Last edited by Oggy; August 07, 2017, 09:16 PM.

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        • monsterjazzlick
          dBpoweramp Guru

          • Jul 2017
          • 1764

          Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

          Originally posted by Oggy
          Leave as is, all that means, is that the album has, more than one composer.

          The tags all look good, except the unnecessary, Disc 1!
          Oggy,

          OK, great; will do.

          Yup, I agree. I want to kill off the 'Disc' numbers in the album titles. I don't like them anymore. I just posted a couple of Q.s regarding this in the: 'Set Up For Ripping' thread.

          Cheers.
          Last edited by monsterjazzlick; August 07, 2017, 09:20 PM. Reason: spelling

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          • monsterjazzlick
            dBpoweramp Guru

            • Jul 2017
            • 1764

            Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

            Hi,

            Back to 'Composers' again (if you will), I have completed all of the different Composer fields for each respective track - no problem.

            But, there is a field that is empty which is also called 'Composer' (directly above: 'View All tracks'). It defaults to Wayne Shorter (either because he is the first composer on the first track, or because of GD3/Discogs etc).

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            Now, I can DELETE Wayne Shorter and leave it empty (not sure if that would effect anything?). However, if I try to type something in (ie. the names of the three composers of this album: Shorter / Hancock / Williams), then it writes in (automatically): 'Shorter / Hancock / Williams' in each individual track field (suggesting that every track was a combined composition by all three composers!).

            On page 1, the "Various Composer" text remains intact.

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            Muchas gracias!
            Last edited by monsterjazzlick; August 07, 2017, 10:03 PM. Reason: spelling

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            • Oggy
              dBpoweramp Guru

              • Apr 2015
              • 697

              Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

              Originally posted by monsterjazzlick
              Hi,

              Back to 'Composers' again (if you will), I have completed all of the different Composer fields for each respective track - no problem.

              But, there is a field that is empty which is also called 'Composer' (directly above: 'View All tracks'). It defaults to Wayne Shorter (either because he is the first composer on the first track, or because of GD3/Discogs etc).

              [ATTACH=CONFIG]1428[/ATTACH]

              Now, I can DELETE Wayne Shorter and leave it empty (not sure if that would effect anything?). However, if I try to type something in (ie. the names of the three composers of this album: Shorter / Hancock / Williams), then it writes in (automatically): 'Shorter / Hancock / Williams' in each individual track field (suggesting that every track was a combined composition by all three composers!).

              On page 1, the "Various Composer" text remains intact.

              [ATTACH=CONFIG]1429[/ATTACH]

              Muchas gracias!
              Yes, you are displaying the first track, and the Composer, is Wayne Shorter.

              If you filled in Shorter / Hancock / Williams, and then hit, To All, this would overwrite, your first screenshot, and the Composer for each track, becomes, Shorter / Hancock / Williams. Do you really want that, and not what you had originally?

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              • monsterjazzlick
                dBpoweramp Guru

                • Jul 2017
                • 1764

                Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

                Originally posted by Oggy
                Yes, you are displaying the first track, and the Composer, is Wayne Shorter.

                If you filled in Shorter / Hancock / Williams, and then hit, To All, this would overwrite, your first screenshot, and the Composer for each track, becomes, Shorter / Hancock / Williams. Do you really want that, and not what you had originally?
                Oggy,

                OK, cheers.

                You are correct about my intentions; I don't want: 'Shorter / Hancock / Williams' for every track (because it would be inaccurate).

                So it's showing Wayne Shorter because he is the Composer of track-1? So, please, is it then possible to flick through the other tracks to see if Hancock and Williams appear (in that very same verbatim box for their own respective tracks)? - I am not sure how to flick through them (I did try via the player). Or would you not even worry about it?!

                I will rip it and see how it comes out ...

                Paul

                NB. I was wondering if W.S. was showing as the Composer because the first track and title of the CD is 'Nefertiti' (ie. his own composition?).
                Last edited by monsterjazzlick; August 07, 2017, 10:40 PM.

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                • Oggy
                  dBpoweramp Guru

                  • Apr 2015
                  • 697

                  Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

                  Originally posted by monsterjazzlick
                  Oggy,

                  OK, cheers.

                  You are correct about my intentions; I don't want: 'Shorter / Hancock / Williams' for every track (because it would be inaccurate).

                  So it's showing Wayne Shorter because he is the Composer of track-1? So, please, is it then possible to flick through the other tracks to see if Hancock and Williams appear (in that very same verbatim box for their own respective tracks)? - I am not sure how to flick through them (I did try via the player). Or would you not even worry about it?!

                  I will rip it and see how it comes out ...

                  Paul

                  NB. I was wondering if W.S. was showing as the Composer because the first track and title of the CD is 'Nefertiti' (ie. his own composition?).
                  You can highlight, any track, in your example, track 1, and hence, Wayne Shorter, is displayed.

                  Using View Track-Artists, as in your screen shot, is probably the easiest method of checking, and correcting.

                  All seems well in the first screen shot.

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                  • monsterjazzlick
                    dBpoweramp Guru

                    • Jul 2017
                    • 1764

                    Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

                    Originally posted by Oggy
                    You can highlight, any track, in your example, track 1, and hence, Wayne Shorter, is displayed.

                    Using View Track-Artists, as in your screen shot, is probably the easiest method of checking, and correcting.

                    All seems well in the first screen shot.
                    Oggy,

                    Thanks.

                    I just checked on my Sony player and all the Composer tags read fine.

                    I still cant work out - sorry to wreck your head! - how/where to highlight any track on the page of the screenshot, please? I've clicked everywhere; well obviously not everywhere as the respective Composers would have changed!

                    Paul
                    Last edited by monsterjazzlick; August 08, 2017, 12:25 AM. Reason: spelling

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                    • Oggy
                      dBpoweramp Guru

                      • Apr 2015
                      • 697

                      Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

                      Originally posted by monsterjazzlick
                      Oggy,

                      OK, cheers.

                      You are correct about my intentions; I don't want: 'Shorter / Hancock / Williams' for every track (because it would be inaccurate).

                      So it's showing Wayne Shorter because he is the Composer of track-1? So, please, is it then possible to flick through the other tracks to see if Hancock and Williams appear (in that very same verbatim box for their own respective tracks)? - I am not sure how to flick through them (I did try via the player). Or would you not even worry about it?!

                      I will rip it and see how it comes out ...

                      Paul

                      NB. I was wondering if W.S. was showing as the Composer because the first track and title of the CD is 'Nefertiti' (ie. his own composition?).
                      Paul,

                      I meant to say, you can check (highlight, doh!), in the View Track-Artists, and correct from there, if necessary.

                      Yes, the first track Composer, is displayed, as in your screen shot.
                      Last edited by Oggy; August 08, 2017, 04:14 PM.

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                      • monsterjazzlick
                        dBpoweramp Guru

                        • Jul 2017
                        • 1764

                        Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

                        Hi,

                        I am about to rip a Miles Davis CD called "TUTU".

                        The COMPILATION box has been automatically checked even though this is not a compilation album!:

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                        Is this due to there being inaccurate information on-the-web?, and do I just simply uncheck it, please?

                        Many thanks.
                        Last edited by monsterjazzlick; August 08, 2017, 06:51 PM. Reason: spelling

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                        • Dat Ei
                          dBpoweramp Guru

                          • Feb 2014
                          • 1785

                          Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

                          I would uncheck the box, but it's still up to you! Your choice!


                          Dat Ei

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                          • monsterjazzlick
                            dBpoweramp Guru

                            • Jul 2017
                            • 1764

                            Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

                            Originally posted by Dat Ei
                            I would uncheck the box, but it's still up to you! Your choice!
                            Thanks Dat Ei,

                            I am unchecking it right away ...

                            The COMPILATION discrepancy has never to me before until just now.

                            Paul

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                            • mville
                              dBpoweramp Guru

                              • Dec 2008
                              • 4021

                              Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

                              Originally posted by monsterjazzlick
                              The COMPILATION discrepancy has never to me before until just now.
                              If the artist tag contains different values across the CD, CDRipper automatically ticks the Compilation box.

                              This behaviour is very annoying, but Illustrate insist that if the artist is not consistent (i.e. is not the same for all tracks) then it is a compilation, something I do not agree with.

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                              • Jailhouse
                                dBpoweramp Guru

                                • Sep 2016
                                • 388

                                Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

                                Originally posted by mville
                                If the artist tag contains different values across the CD, CDRipper automatically ticks the Compilation box.

                                This behaviour is very annoying, but Illustrate insist that if the artist is not consistent (i.e. is not the same for all tracks) then it is a compilation, something I do not agree with.
                                I expect it is a compilation the majority of the time, and the reason why CD Ripper is programmed that way. The one exception (barring errors) I can think of offhand would be some tracks where the Artist field has "Feat. [another artist]" appended to the album artist's name.

                                Just another reason why one should always closely check all metadata/tags with every rip.

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