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  • good_reason

    • Aug 2004
    • 45

    dmc11.5rc2: Tag problem of PopInfoTips

    Program: dmc11.5rc2 / 11.0
    Hi,
    Accidently, I found that the PopInfoTips fuction of dmc won't show the chinese tag of APE files correctly.

    Those files is in APEv2 TAG,I'm very sure there is no problem with the tag (in UTF-8).
    And those tags can be shown correctly in EditTag, another function of dmc.

    WMA and mp3 files seems ok
  • good_reason

    • Aug 2004
    • 45

    #2
    Re: dmc11.5rc2: Tag problem of PopInfoTips

    Sorry , i think i had made some mistakes in the last post.

    Here is the correction:

    OS: winxpsp2 pro (with System locale: Chinese PRC)
    The PopUpInfo function won't show some of the Chinese Tags correctly , including the tags of *.APE(APEv2),*.MP3 (ID3v2 unicode),and *.wma

    (for example)
    chinese words: [color=blue]張學友[/color]
    in UTF-8 : [color=green]EF BB BF E5 BC B5 E5 AD B8 E5 8F 8B [/color]

    it can be shown correctly in EditTag , but not in PopUpInfo.

    Those tags should be ok and can be shown correctly in foobar2000 v0.83

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    • xoas
      dBpoweramp Guru

      • Apr 2002
      • 2662

      #3
      Re: dmc11.5rc2: Tag problem of PopInfoTips

      Could these have unicode tags?
      dMC does not yet support unicode although I believe Foobar does.
      Spoon plans to have dMC v12 be fully unicode compatible.

      Best wishes,
      Bill

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      • Spoon
        Administrator
        • Apr 2002
        • 44509

        #4
        Re: dmc11.5rc2: Tag problem of PopInfoTips

        What is shown on the popup?
        Spoon
        www.dbpoweramp.com

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        • good_reason

          • Aug 2004
          • 45

          #5
          Re: dmc11.5rc2: Tag problem of PopInfoTips

          Originally posted by Spoon
          What is shown on the popup?
          IMHO, maybe it had treat those bytes as DBMS characters(2 bytes=1 chinese word) directly.

          In my example above,
          the popup had shown: [color=green]寮靛鍙?[/color] (5 words)
          // E5 BC B5 E5 AD B8 E5 8F 8B (9 bytes+null)

          The correct one which EditTag show is: [color=green]張學友[/color] (3 words)
          // 8F 88 8c 57 D3 D1 (6 bytes)
          ------------------------------------
          Anyway , the problem is not affect the tag result of converting.
          i tried to converted an *.ape file to *.wma ,
          The tag of *.wma is correct and can be recognize in wmp9/10 and foobar2000v0.83 (Although it can't be shown correctly in Popup of dMC)


          Originally posted by xoas
          Could these have unicode tags?
          dMC does not yet support unicode although I believe Foobar does.
          Spoon plans to have dMC v12 be fully unicode compatible.

          Best wishes,
          Bill
          Yes, very sure, 100% utf-8
          btw,ealier version of dMC is free from this problem.
          Last edited by good_reason; September 01, 2005, 05:42 PM.

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          • Spoon
            Administrator
            • Apr 2002
            • 44509

            #6
            Re: dmc11.5rc2: Tag problem of PopInfoTips

            I have a new beta version to try in the next 4-5 days, I will also upload examples of mp3 files with correct international tags so that they can be checked.
            Spoon
            www.dbpoweramp.com

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            • good_reason

              • Aug 2004
              • 45

              #7
              Re: dmc11.5rc2: Tag problem of PopInfoTips

              i found this problem is so weird... coz sometimes the PopInfo will show the tag in correct words, but sometimes it show a wrong result (with a same file) ;(

              I'll recheck this problem at others computer in these a few days.

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              • good_reason

                • Aug 2004
                • 45

                #8
                Re: dmc11.5rc2: Tag problem of PopInfoTips

                (so sorry for my broken english ....)
                Hi, i think i found something.

                There are 2 factors related to this problem.
                1) If a filename or it's folder/path has Chinese words, the PopInfo of r11 will show a wrong result.
                btw, a same ape and wma file can be shown correctly at r10.1 in this case...


                2) an older PC might shown a wrong result at the "first" PopINfo screen of a folder.
                if we move the mouse away, and move it back immediately (or move to second file), the correct result was shown. so, i think this one is not a big problems...
                The oldest PC i tried is : Celeron733 (OS:winxpSP2)


                Code:
                OS: winxpsp2 (system locale: Chinese PRC)
                
                [b]Installed Compression Codecs (write)[/b]
                Monkeys Audio R7 (Using Monkeys 3.99)
                Mp3 (Lame)   Lame version 3.93.1 (Dibrom's switches)  // dMC r10.1
                Mp3 (Lame)   Lame Version 3.96.1                      // dMC r11.5beta2
                Windows Media Audio v9.1  Release 1
                ----------------------------------------------
                [The result of the 1st factor]
                Ok: means the tag shown correctly.
                NO: means the tag is not shown correctly.
                
                                             [color=green]r10.1[/color]          [color=blue]]r11beta5/r11.0/r11.5beta2[/color]
                [b]WMA (wma9/wma9.1)[/b]
                english filename/folder     [color=green]OK  [/color]           [color=blue]OK (**note1 )[/color]
                chinese filename/folder     [color=green]OK  [/color]           [color=blue]NO [/color]
                
                [b]APE3.99 files (with APEv2 TAG)[/b]
                english filename/folder     [color=green]OK  [/color]           [color=blue]OK (**note1)[/color]
                chinese filename/folder     [color=green]OK  [/color]           [color=blue]NO[/color]
                
                [b]MP3(ID3v1+ID3v2(unicode))[/b]
                english filename/folder     [color=green]NO  [/color]           [color=blue]OK (**note1 )[/color]
                chinese filename/folder     [color=green]NO  [/color]           [color=blue]NO[/color]
                
                
                **note1: The tag can be shown correctly at most of the time, btw, 
                         it *might*(have a chance, but not often) show a wrong result on
                 older PC while the "first PopInfo" in any folder (the path and filename is in English).
                         So,if we point to the file again, it will show a correct one in PopInfo of dMC.
                Last edited by good_reason; September 02, 2005, 08:23 AM.

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                • LtData
                  dBpoweramp Guru

                  • May 2004
                  • 8288

                  #9
                  Re: dmc11.5rc2: Tag problem of PopInfoTips

                  Remember that dMC doesn't support Unicode in filenames. This is why it breaks.

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                  • Spoon
                    Administrator
                    • Apr 2002
                    • 44509

                    #10
                    Re: dmc11.5rc2: Tag problem of PopInfoTips

                    The bug that was fixed yesterday (not uploaded yet as dMC configuration is being changed), was the FIRST popup information over a file was correct, the SECOND popup information was taken from a cache and was showing raw UTF-8.
                    Spoon
                    www.dbpoweramp.com

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                    • good_reason

                      • Aug 2004
                      • 45

                      #11
                      Re: dmc11.5rc2: Tag problem of PopInfoTips

                      Originally posted by LtData
                      Remember that dMC doesn't support Unicode in filenames. This is why it breaks.
                      dmc r10.1 do support those unicode/non-unicode chinese filenames, but dmc r11 don't

                      Since, dmc r10.1 don't support non-unicode/unicode Chinese ID3v2 .
                      so, that's why it didn't show the mp3 correctly.

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                      • Spoon
                        Administrator
                        • Apr 2002
                        • 44509

                        #12
                        Re: dmc11.5rc2: Tag problem of PopInfoTips

                        dMC R10 will not support unicode characters in the filename, for it to have done so it would have to store the filename as 16 bits per character (wide character), it was the same as dMC r11 8 bit per character.
                        Spoon
                        www.dbpoweramp.com

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                        • good_reason

                          • Aug 2004
                          • 45

                          #13
                          Re: dmc11.5rc2: Tag problem of PopInfoTips

                          Originally posted by Spoon
                          dMC R10 will not support unicode characters in the filename, for it to have done so it would have to store the filename as 16 bits per character (wide character), it was the same as dMC r11 8 bit per character.
                          hi,have to say sorry again for my mistake.
                          The "unicode/non-unicode chinese filenames" i said is wrong!
                          I had rechecked those chinese folder and chinese filename. They are all in Unicode.

                          The format of the partition is FAT32 (formatted directly from winxp). and, all folders/files was created under winxp.

                          i just wonder why r10 can view them correctly, but r11 didn't...

                          // I will recheck those problem under chinese win98 if i have any free time.


                          [color=blue]
                          edit 1: just read the following thread... thanks. keep waiting for r12 :smile2:
                          Q. dBpowerAMP is not displaying international ID Tags?
                          Firstly only Windows 9x & ME are unable to display unicode characters correctly, Windows 2000, XP or Vista are required. dBpowerAMP Release 11.5 or above is required to accurately show the tags below, if your filename has unicode characters dBpowerAMP Release 12 or above is required. Often ID Tags are written

                          [/color]

                          last edit: remodify this post , make some correction.
                          Last edited by good_reason; September 15, 2005, 09:50 AM.

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                          • Spoon
                            Administrator
                            • Apr 2002
                            • 44509

                            #14
                            Re: dmc11.5rc2: Tag problem of PopInfoTips

                            Will start on R12 in the comming months, it will be a big update - one that has to have internally Unicode compiles (for Win2000 / XP) non unicode for Win9x and a Windows 64 bit compile for the shell extensions so they work with XP 64 and Vista 64bit. Like I said a big update.
                            Spoon
                            www.dbpoweramp.com

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