Ogg Vorbis R12 (using Ogg 1.1.0)

[Spoon]

Re: Ogg Vorbis R12 (using Ogg 1.1.0)

libvorbis is the audio side of things, libogg is the container. This current beta is using both those latest versions.

[Unregistered]

Re: Ogg Vorbis R12 (using Ogg 1.1.0)

Thanks for clarifying. Once again, awesome product!

[Unregistered]

Re: Ogg Vorbis R12 (using Ogg 1.1.0)

Thanks for clarifying. Once again, awesome product!

I re-read that initial post and I read your "Join Date" as Apr 2004, which I also thought was the posting date. Doh! So now that I look more closely, it was actually posted on 10/9/2004, which is obviously later than the release date of 1.1.0/1.1.2. Sorry to waste your time. Won't happen again. I hope.

[roytam]

Re: Ogg Vorbis R12 (using Ogg 1.1.0)

I think AoTuV version is much better than the official one.

http://www.geocities.jp/aoyoume/aotuv/

"aoTuV" is the encoder of Ogg Vorbis. Based on libvorbis of Xiph.Org, this encoder was made, in order to improve the quality of coding.
If you get interested, about change of actual tone quality, to be tried in person will be good.

Beta2 was adopted as a part of Vorbis 1.1 of Xiph.Org.

　< <Since beta2 was adopted as official 1.1, beta3 uses 1.1 as a base. >>
# bitrate management mode operates normally now. It not only became new, it offers new rate control. (changed part of Vorbis 1.1 by Monty)

　# Pre-echo was decreased in the mode of q0-q10.
# Since some codes of beta2 were not working normally, correction and re-tuning were carried out.
　# In the mode below q3, the problem to which a part of sound becomes unstable is improved. (e.g. piano/strings)
　# Distortion resulting from channel coupling was reduced. (e.g. brass/drumus/guitar)
　# The q-2 new mode.

[Spoon]

Re: Ogg Vorbis R12 (using Ogg 1.1.0)

Updated to fix Stereo >> Mono bug (download as first message).

@roytan: These updates will be added when they become stable (currently they are in beta test and are tweaked lots).

[Tomb]

Re: Ogg Vorbis R12 (using Ogg 1.1.0)

I think AoTuV version is much better than the official one.

Use it with the Generic CLI encoder. That's what i do and it works fine except that it has the 1.1.0 in the vendor tag. But that's hardly a problem.

[Peich1]

Re: Ogg Vorbis R12 (using Ogg 1.1.0)

Updated to fix Stereo >> Mono bug (download as first message).

Hi, I am testing this Ogg Vorbis codec and I've found that, indeed, stereo/mono conversion works now; but it seems the channels are not mixed 50% each, instead are added. This makes the sound very loud and clipping. I've only tried a few mp3 stereo->ogg mono conversions, I'll make a few tests more, maybe I've done something wrong.

[Spoon]

Re: Ogg Vorbis R12 (using Ogg 1.1.0)

That is how it works for Stereo >> mono, 70% of each channel is added to final, yes on certain audio it can clip (the built in Windows ACM converter does the same).

If you have the Power Pack you can use the 'Set Channels' DSP effect to apply exactly what summing is required.

[Spoon]

Re: Ogg Vorbis R12 (using Ogg 1.1.0)

Now released (no changes from this last beta version).

[go_jesse]

Re: Ogg Vorbis R12 (using Ogg 1.1.0)

So, a little OT, but I just tried out the OGG P4 cli encoder (based on OLD oggenc.exe 1.0.0, and it crashed at the end of its encoding pass on the first song. I then downloaded oggenc2.exe (version 2.3 for P4, libogg 1.1.0) and changed the CLI encoder to use it.

oggenc2.exe doesn't crash, and worked fine to encode a whole album.

now to the meat of my post:

CLI took 4:41 to rip and encode using powerpack
R12 took 3:59 to rip and encode using powerpack and same settings

I'd suggest removing the P4 CLI encoder, based on this. Feel free to move my post if it shouldn't be here.

[Spoon]

Re: Ogg Vorbis R12 (using Ogg 1.1.0)

How fast was oggenc2?

[neilthecellist]

Re: Ogg Vorbis R12 (using Ogg 1.1.0)

for me, it was pretty fast. I'm a little annoyed at the old Pentium 4 oggenc.exe. It ran pretty slowly. I think you guys should remove it and post the new oggenc.exe (found at http://www.rarewares.org)

[roytam]

Re: Ogg Vorbis R12 (using Ogg 1.1.0)

Just want to add some feature request of this plug-in:
As OGG Vobis 1.1.0 supports Quality -2, please let the plug-in support it.

[neilthecellist]

Re: Ogg Vorbis R12 (using Ogg 1.1.0)

what's the bitrate for quality -2 ??

[roytam]

Re: Ogg Vorbis R12 (using Ogg 1.1.0)

what's the bitrate for quality -2 ??

about 30kbps.
I am sorry that I make confused and mixed up official ogg vobis 1.1.0 with aoTuV beta 3. The official one doesn't support q -2 but aoTuV b3 does.