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  • Niko
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    Re: Asset UPnP R5

    Hi there,

    here are some findings in the actual beta:

    1. After update to release 5 BETA the data sent to a control point (I use primarily Naims n-stream, both version 3.6.7479 and 4.0, and Asset Control) do not reflect the actual browse tree of Asset UPnP, instead of which the default browse tree is used.
    By chance I found in [COLOR="*4B0082"][COLOR="*4B0082"]%appdata%\dBpoweramp\uMediaLibrary[/COLOR][/COLOR] two files named AssetUPnPDefinedBrowseTreev4 and ...v5 respectively. It seems to me that the Asset V5 installs the ...v5 file, but within the programm updates changes still to the ...v4 file, the contents of which are also sent to the control point. Since the structure of the file is nearly self-explanatory, I meanwhile corrected the ...v5 file manually and now things are as they should be. I don't know whether this workaround is already explained somewhere else in the forum. Please correct.



    2."Compilation albums corrected to not show as Various Artists" is changed, but not generally:
    (as per Mr. Spoon's suggestions, I use in this example FLAC files with empty album artist and the Compilation tag set to '1')
    = View of [All Albums] shows a "random" artist (of 9th title in following hardcopies) - maybe the first artist of this album (in alphabetical) order is selected. This is definitively not correct, either blanks or "Various artists" should be displayed here. Asset UPnP 4.3 does this correctly.
    = View of Albums beginning with the same letter show same result.
    = View of [Artist / Album] now correct: Asset 4.3 (Registered) wrongly showed on a selected artist still "Various artists", 5 Beta shows the real artist's name.
    = View of [Album Artist / Album]: Unable to test at this stage (see above browse tree problem). The following would be correct:
    If "Various artists" is displayed under [All Albums], an enry "Various artists" in Album Artists would be consistent,
    if blanks are displayed under [All Albums], there should be no entry under Album Artists.
    = Detailed view of selected album shows the following contents in album artist field:5
    "Various artists" (n-stream) artist of 1st title (Accet Control: wrong, correct would be blanks or "Various artists").
    = Artist with each title contains now (5 Beta) the respective arist in both n-stream and Asset Control (correct).
    Under 4.3 (Registered) Artist is blank in n-stream, but correctly displayed in Asset Control. Plug Player and Kinski do not show changes between Asset 4.3. and 5 Beta and both do not show artist together with the titles. Hardcopies regarding this point:
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    And here is what Asset 4.3 registered does:
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    Are there different data sent to or received at the different control points (since for Asset Control I found some "Settings Overrides" in Asset UPnP, but none for Naim Unity) ?



    3.Different results of sort order, if a single letter or all ...(... Albums / ... Album Artists [in Asset UPnP 4.3 only] / ... Artists) is selected:
    If a single letter is selected, the contents of Album Artist Sort, Artist Sort, and Album Sort are considered in displayed order respectively.
    If all (Albums / Artists) is selected, the respective contents of the ... sort fields are neglected. Since upto now I am unable to test if this happens also with Album Artist in 5 Beta, I tried this also with Asset UPnP 4.3 (Registered; both Win and Mac) with same result.
    This appears only in Naim's n-stream (and e.g. in foobar 2000), Asset Control (and Plug Player as well as Kinski on Mac) displays the data as expected.
    Naim's Uniti 2 shows, if tracks are selected manually or by use of remote control, the correct sort order in both cases, but it does not handle Unicode characters correctly and shows a "?" for each character.
    (here I wanted to include 6 hardcopies, which I can't attach actually - I will mail them to the usual mail address separately)


    Any idea what I could do to ensure equal behaviour of the above mentioned control points or is Asset sending excactly the same contents to any control point (would mean that it is up to the supplier of the control point software to correct this !?!) ?



    4.I had no duplicate problems with the first version of V5 beta, but experienced for whatever reason after some time an empty database. I managed to solve this problem by installing the older version of V5 beta.
    To avoid similar troubles I changed the audio library path from my NAS to a locally USB 2.0 attached disc. Meanwhile I re-installed the actual V5 Beta and it still points to a local USB drive.

    Could the empty database occur if during a "refresh all" the connection to my NAS, to which Asset pointed before, is temporarily lost ?



    5."New database design, faster at indexing, browsing albums" - no change experienced during "refresh all" upto now, although numbers of albums, titles nearly the same and PC, network and NAS exactly the same as before.
    Or should only the final release show remarkable faster reactions ?



    As some of these points may affect also Mobile Foobar2000 ("My input is ..." in September 2014 blog) I thought some of them might avoid, if clarified now, possible additional efforts later on.


    Best regards,
    Niko

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  • Spoon-
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    Re: Asset UPnP R5

    The post is now above.

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  • alk630
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    Re: Asset UPnP R5

    No, sorry I didn't check there.. it was missing in Kinsky - I hadn't realised different control points treated things differently and the album does show in Asset Control.

    I posted last night (it seems to have disappeared) to say the new version is working very well, but there was still a problem with album artists starting with E-acute appearing in both [E] and [0-10] together. This happens in both Kinsky and Asset Control... is this normal behaviour?

    Apologies for all the questions, there appears to be quite a steep learning curve to begin with, but I'm getting there

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  • Spoon-
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    Re: Asset UPnP R5

    It is missing in Asset Control?

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  • alk630
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    Re: Asset UPnP R5

    Last night, after adding a new Led Zeppelin album to the collection, in the control point the album doesn't appear under <Album / Artist>, but does appear under <All Tracks>. All the tagging appears to be correct. Any ideas as to what may be happening here please?

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  • Spoon-
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    Re: Asset UPnP R5

    Check if these albums have an Album Sort tag set.

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  • alk630
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    Re: Asset UPnP R5

    Originally posted by Spoon
    Please try this new version here:

    http://forum.dbpoweramp.com/showthre...998*post149998

    After installing a full Rescan (Refresh All) should be done to re-index.
    Congratulations and thank you Spoon, the new Asset Beta 5 appears to be working correctly without albums being duplicated.

    There is still a problem with 'Émilie Simon' (with an e-acute) albums appearing sometimes in [E], sometimes in [0-9] and sometimes in both. 'The xx' appears in <Artist / Album> [0-9], but this may be by design if 'xx' is interpreted as Roman numerals? Albums beginning with '&' and various other symbols e.g. '.' when not followed by a number are also appearing in <Albums> [0-19], along with various other albums beginning with regular alphabetical letters (see screenshot):

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  • mville
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    Re: Asset UPnP R5

    Originally posted by alk630
    Should Asset be able to routinely pick up case changes in an Album or Artist, e.g. 'When the Wind Blows' -> 'When The Wind Blows' or 'Abba '-> 'ABBA' and update accordingly?
    In Asset UPnP Configuration, select Refresh All and you should definitely see the case changes when it has finished scanning.

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  • alk630
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    Should Asset be able to routinely pick up case changes in an Album or Artist, e.g. 'When the Wind Blows' -> 'When The Wind Blows' or 'Abba '-> 'ABBA' and update accordingly? This does not appear to be happening in some instances.

    Edit: Only just seen your post for the new version of Beta 5, so will let you know....
    Last edited by alk630; October 16, 2014, 04:19 PM.

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  • Spoon-
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    Re: Asset UPnP R5

    Please try this new version here:

    http://forum.dbpoweramp.com/showthre...998*post149998

    After installing a full Rescan (Refresh All) should be done to re-index.

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  • alk630
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    Re: Asset UPnP R5

    Thanks garym, I already tried your suggestion, but there is absolutely no difference in the metadata tags. I think this problem is related to the one that Spoon is already looking at.

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  • garym
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    Re: Asset UPnP R5

    Originally posted by alk630
    After getting to grips with the Disc Count settings this evening and re-encoding all the FLAC files in Adele 19 (Deluxe Edition) with XRecodeII, something very weird is going on, but it may be related to the previous problem Spoon is investigating. Now, all the files from the double album are correctly listed together, but there is a problem with one track (CD1, track 5) - see screenshot below:

    [ATTACH=CONFIG]380[/ATTACH]

    All the files in each album are tagged the same, but for some reason track 5 is displayed without the album number.
    open these files in mp3tag. select files, right click, choose "extended tags" to see what might be different regarding metadata tags. If you select all files from album and do this, you'll see if things are different in a tag (disk?) if it shows <keep> rather than the value for the album.
    Last edited by garym; October 15, 2014, 12:32 AM.

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  • alk630
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    Re: Asset UPnP R5

    After getting to grips with the Disc Count settings this evening and re-encoding all the FLAC files in Adele 19 (Deluxe Edition) with XRecodeII, something very weird is going on, but it may be related to the previous problem Spoon is investigating. Now, all the files from the double album are correctly listed together, but there is a problem with one track (CD1, track 5) - see screenshot below:

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    All the files in each album are tagged the same, but for some reason track 5 is displayed without the album number.

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  • alk630
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    Thanks garym, that works... much appreciated

    Another problem with Asset UPnP for Spoon, apologies in advance for being a pain....

    I have a few albums and tracks by Émilie Simon, all spelled correctly. Some of them appear under [E], some appear under [0-9] and some appear in both [E] and [0-9] together. This appears to be the same using different control points.
    Last edited by alk630; October 14, 2014, 09:23 PM.

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  • garym
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    Re: Asset UPnP R5

    Originally posted by alk630
    Well, my next question then is.... how, if I have an album with two discs, e.g. the 'Parov Stelar - The Princess' where the disc count has somehow been previously edited to 2, can I then edit it back to 1? Is there a program out there where the disc count can be directly edited? I know this may sound pedantic, but I would just like to control the appearance of the way albums are displayed in a large collection.
    dbpoweramp (from this site), select tracks, then right click, then EDIT ID TAG, modify disk tag info then save.
    mp3tag (which handles flac, etc. too)
    many other tag editors.....

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