PerfectTUNES discussion

[Thorgal_92]

Re: PerfectTUNES discussion

Hi Spoon,

Thanks a lot for PerfectTUNES AccurateRip. It is a very nice and exciting tool.

I would like to report one minor drawback : the only way to scan the library (after having added new albums for instance) is exit from PerfectTunes and then start it again in order to trigger the scan.

A refresh function in the UI could be interesting ?

Regards.

[DDJJ]

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How does it list the other albums? under which heading?

I went to answer your question Spoon, and it now looks like it is taking a LOT longer to process the albums (after I reopened the program). I may actually be on gone on a hike when it finishes (leaving in the AM), so I may not be able to get back to you until Monday. Hopefully it does it's thing this time. I will let you know!

Thanks!

[Spoon]

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How does it list the other albums? under which heading?

[DDJJ]

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Not sure I'm posting this correctly, but here goes...

RE PerfectTunes Accurate-Rip.

Album Art and De-Dup work OK, but Accurate rip just iterates through my album collection of about 1,050 and returns just one album as having been accurately ripped. That album is the first subfolder listed alphabetically, so it appears to be skipping all subsequent subfolders. (Main folder = "D:\FLAC Files\", plus I've made sure that the subfolders option is selected). In my setup, each subfolder is an artist, with each lower level folder being a title/album.

Any ideas why the Accurate-Rip code is skipping so many files?

Thank you,

Dan

[eightfold]

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Not currently, it will not make v1 release, but should make v2.

OK, that explains things. :smile2:

[Spoon]

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Not currently, it will not make v1 release, but should make v2.

[eightfold]

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Time for a stupid question. I actually registered just to be able to ask it.
Is there a way to auto correct and tag tracks with any of the applications in the PerfectTUNES bundle? I can't seem to find it anywhere. I see the possibility to add covers and get a confirmation that your tracks where correctly ripped. But metadata fixes?

[cierzo]

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Having had an unfortunate issue with a NAS storage server, my iTunes collection was corrupted. I recovered the albums scattered in a Mac, a PC and an iPad/iPod and put them together in a directory. Using Anti-Twin duplicate finder and remover I could delete lots of identical files. But anti-twin cannot consider identical files with the same music but different tags or different bitrates. Here comes PerfectTunes De-Dup. I came across it a few days ago and inmediately installed and used it. I expected to take a lot of time (about 1 day) to scan my collection and it worked perfectly. The problem is that it found more than 14.000 duplicates. I cannot spend the time required to delete one by one manually so I would appreciate a way to mass-delete identical or similar songs by selecting the directories to keep and the directories to delete.

[Spoon]

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The technology is not 100%, there are false positives.

[SAbboushi]

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Thanks - I don't understand how different tracks which are different are then identified as duplicates...

[Spoon]

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Metadata is not used for de-dup, instead the audio is listened to and similarities in the audio used to detect duplicates, the length of the tracks is not important.

[SAbboushi]

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Have only tried De-Dupe; looks promising to me.

Like an earlier poster said:
1) In addition to the folder icon to click, I also need to see the file path for each duplicate in the initial view
2) A mechanism to aggregate the duplicates by album and delete the album (instead of 1 track at a time)

I also would like a find option on the initial view

NOTE: I was surprised to find that tracks marked as duplicates were not. I was under the (mistaken?) impression that the portion of the file containing the audio was in some way examined and not just the metadata... but it seems that is not the case?

I just found tracks that are the same length (29 seconds) that were flagged as duplicates even though they are not (Same album, different CDs / different track*s)

Even more surprised to find other tracks flagged as duplicates when they were not: Same CD, different lengths 2:02 vs. 1:33...?!

Although I find the UI to be nice, it isn't practical for me for the issues cited above, so I am exporting the duplicate list to file and using Windows Explorer to manage the reported dupes.

[jfkaess]

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Let me play devil's advocate. I certainly can see why you might think your proposal would be a slam dunk to your problem. However, you have overlooked, or at least not yet come across a problem which requires personal intervention by the user. My collection is only about 13,000 tracks total, and i only had 100 or so dupes show up, but i can imagine multiplying that by 5 to get a feel for your situation. In most cases, your proposal would fix my duplicates, but of those hundred or so dupes in my collection, about 20 were alternate takes or versions of the same song by the same artist. In those cases i absolutely would NOT want Perfectunes deleting any of them or deciding between them. I want to keep both versions. I would object strongly to having the program automatically delete anything.

On a side note, having a possible almost 25% of your tracks show as duplicates is pretty unusual and untypical. Any music player, even itunes, can sort all your songs by title and let you scroll down and delete a lot of the duplicates. I was actually surprised with some of the dupes that Perfectunes found because they were on albums by differently named artists or compilations so a simple scroll through my library did not catch them, but Perfectunes did. This is where Perfectunes shines.

[BenWa]

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Just tried PerfectTunes for the first time, and I'm very excited and also quite frustrated. Mostly for reasons that have been posted earlier in the thread, but I'll just add my take as well.

After 15 years of collecting digital music in various forms, I finally resolved to rid myself of my CD library last month (keeping the vinyl tho. :D). I used dbPoweramp to rip everything to FLAC, but my earlier digital music had a huge range of formats, quality, age, folder layouts, tagging, etc. I really want to consolidate everything down to the highest quality file, get the id tags right and clean up the folder structures to match the id tags. PerfectTunes sounded like a match made in heaven.

Since tagging isn't here yet I started with de-dup, also one of my largest problems to sort anyway. After a surprisingly short time from my perspective (about 6.5 hours) PerfectTunes had indexed my 60,000 songs. According to it, 14,000 of them are duplicates. I went through the first couple of hundred of matches and didn't find any mistakes. It was annoying to not have the files paths easily viewable while comparing, but other than that the main experience is great.

And now for the pain. There is no way in hell I'm going to go through and click on 14,000 individual tracks to clean this mess up. Not gonna do it. Most of them have perfectly obvious heuristics that could be applied to sort out the irrelevant files. For the rest of them I'd need some way of working on folder trees, grouped files, a rules engine or something else that would let me do this across my library in aggregate as opposed to treating each file as a separate problem.

So for me, the current state shows a huge amount of promise in sorting out a giant problem that I really want fixed, but it's just not usable in it's current form.

What I'd love to see is a flow that integrates AccurateRip, De-Dup, ID Tags all into one flow with folder structure massaging thrown in for good measure:

* Start the process by asking me how I want tagging and folder layouts to work
* Use De-Dup to find all matches, AccurateRip to eliminate any bad rips, and then pick the highest quality remaining file. If there are multiple, just pick one, it doesn't matter which one anyway
* Tag the resulting files and move them into my desired folder structure
* Don't ask me much of anything during this process

I would definitely pay money for that product! Spoon, I'm looking forward to seeing where you take the app and I hope I can de-clutter my library soon.

[Mangix]

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Will perfecttunes get TAK support? There's an open source decoder as part of ffmpeg if that's needed.