dBpoweramp Music Converter R14.3

[PeterP]

Re: dBpoweramp Music Converter R14.3

PeterP, I suspect dBpoweramp has the problem. In CDRipper I have Year set as:
(...)
This can't be right, can it?

The new dB version manipulates ID3v2.3 TYER/TDAT fields strictly according to the specification. If it turns out that most of other software cannot handle this properly, we will loosen the standard compliance to allow better compatibility.

[twit]

Re: dBpoweramp Music Converter R14.3

I don't know if the lastest version was intended to resolve the lyrics issues or not, but the lyrics issues remain in the latest version.

[Spoon-]

Re: dBpoweramp Music Converter R14.3

I doubt it is specific to R14.3, rather the databases do not have composer for those discs....

[thexfile]

Re: dBpoweramp Music Converter R14.3

I'm having a lot of CDs not download Composer info. Everything else is there, only composer info is missing.

PerfectMeta will show no composer info in any of the services.

[mville]

Re: dBpoweramp Music Converter R14.3

Regarding inconsistent separators: we now use the slash character as a delimiter for multiple values in ID3v2.3, per conventions from the ID3v2.3 specification.

Sorry to bang on about this but there are also problems with Conductor, ConductorSort, Soloists and SoloistsSort separators in R14.3 beta.

[mville]

Re: dBpoweramp Music Converter R14.3

Regarding MP3Tag, I will report this to the MP3Tag author.

PeterP, I suspect dBpoweramp has the problem. In CDRipper I have Year set as:



When CD is ripped to mp3, in MP3Tag, I get Year (%year%) and Date (%date%) tags populated as follows:



This can't be right, can it?

[PeterP]

Re: dBpoweramp Music Converter R14.3

OK, ID3v2 TIT1 "style" vs "content group description" misbehavior identified:
Old dB writes TIT1 when told "content group description" but reads it back as "style".
Will fix the new version to do the same; thanks for the reports.


Note about ISO 8859 vs UTF-16 encoding use:
The new ID3v2 writer attempts not to modify the tag any more than necessary to write the requested fields to it; fields that are not being modified are usually left intact - with original text encoding preserved. If the tag was encoded in ISO 8859 before, updating it with dB will not change all the existing fields to UTF-16; only fields actually being edited should appear as UTF-16.

[mville]

Re: dBpoweramp Music Converter R14.3

Hmmm, I have style info separately from GROUPING. My grouping field for mp3 files (which I've added in mp3tag) is %contentgroup%. And this in turn shows up a GROUPING in itunes.

Yes me too. %contentgroup% for mp3, %style% for flac.

When ripping to mp3, R14.2 works fine i.e. %contentgroup% is populated. With R14.3 %contentgroup% is empty. Whether this is by design or a bug I do not know. What I do know is that the changes introduced in R14.3 beta are not consistent with R14.2, when ripping to mp3 (flac is fine).

[garym]

Re: dBpoweramp Music Converter R14.3

Strange, "grouping" works here (mapped to dB "style" field as in earlier dB releases).
Regarding MP3Tag, I will report this to the MP3Tag author.

Hmmm, I have style info separately from GROUPING. My grouping field for mp3 files (which I've added in mp3tag) is %contentgroup%. And this in turn shows up a GROUPING in itunes.

[PeterP]

Re: dBpoweramp Music Converter R14.3

Strange, "grouping" works here (mapped to dB "style" field as in earlier dB releases).
Regarding MP3Tag, I will report this to the MP3Tag author.

[mville]

Re: dBpoweramp Music Converter R14.3

One more change to the mp3 tag writer:

More robust year tag handling, more robust iTunes sort tag handling, corrected some other field names to match old dB versions.

Grouping tag in iTunes is still showing as blank.

Year tag appears to be fixed e.g. MM appears OK. However, if I just save (without making any changes to the mp3 tags) in MP3Tag, the Year Tag reverts to YYYY only (no MM). To clarify this, I view tags in Edit-ID and Year tag shows 1975-12. I open the file in MP3Tag, save file and close. I view tags again in Edit-ID and Year tag now shows 1975.

Also, I have noticed that ID3v2 character encoding has changed from Unicode-16 to ISO-8859-1.

[Spoon-]

Re: dBpoweramp Music Converter R14.3

Update 1st August

One more change to the mp3 tag writer:

More robust year tag handling, more robust iTunes sort tag handling, corrected some other field names to match old dB versions.
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@xTobix FLAC / vorbis are handled differently (correct to that spec)

[xTobix]

Re: dBpoweramp Music Converter R14.3

Hi peter,

Regarding inconsistent separators: we now use the slash character as a delimiter for multiple values in ID3v2.3, per conventions from the ID3v2.3 specification.

is this only used for mp3 tags, or will vorbis/flac tags be affected too? And how do you intend to handle Multi Encoder output option (mp3 and flag)?

[PeterP]

Re: dBpoweramp Music Converter R14.3

Thank you once again for the detailed report; a new beta version addressing these issues will be out soon.

I have posted before about the mp3 tag changes/bugs in R14.3 but I need more clarification as to what is going on.

R14.3 uses a completely new ID3 tag reading library which - among other things - introduces ID3v2.4 support. Unfortunately, there are some compatibility quirks left to be worked out.

Regarding inconsistent separators: we now use the slash character as a delimiter for multiple values in ID3v2.3, per conventions from the ID3v2.3 specification.

[mville]

Re: dBpoweramp Music Converter R14.3

I have posted before about the mp3 tag changes/bugs in R14.3 but I need more clarification as to what is going on.

I have ripped a CD to mp3 in CDRipper R14.3 and then imported into iTunes.

Below are 2 screenshots showing the tags for one of the mp3 files. Those in RED are not as expected, i.e. these tags were populated as expected in R14.2.



In CDRipper, the tags were set as follows:
Year: 1975-12
Style: 70's; Experimental Ambient; Ambient; Art Rock
Artist Sort: Fripp, Robert; Eno, Brian
Album Artist Sort: Fripp, Robert; Eno, Brian
ComposerSort: Fripp, Robert; Eno, Brian

Note that 4 of the 5 tags are empty and the other, Sort Composer has a different separator to Composer.