Asset UPnP (DLNA) Release 2

[dvdr]

Re: Asset UPnP (DLNA) Release 2

Spoon

just a few things I noticed, maybe they can be corrected for the final release of v2, still...

- in composers - despite it is configured for a ;-delimited multi-entry - I still get wrong display when browsing A-Z: there's composers from "other letters" as well. I know, that these may be contributing composers for a certain "letter", but they should be displayed in their appropriate letters imho.
Not sure, whether this may happen with other browse-trees as well. With artists, this has been corrected...

- I configured a database element "Instrument" and set it to "5" (multi-entry). But unfortunately, the ;-delimited entries are not "separated", they show up like this: oboe; piano; violin
Can this happen to any multientry custom entry I create for the database?

- I just bought an Acer H340 WHS-enquipped Server and installed Asset V2RC1. I noticed in the console, that Asset seems to reindex quite often. No files are changed or added, but Asset still "counts" (you can see that when you open the configuration window). After having indexed the music, it halts for about 20 secs to 1 minute, then it starts reindexing. Any thoughts, what might happen? Could it be, that the new playlist options or anything else, that keeps track of how often files are played, triggers a rescan?

- A question: what use does the option "rescan on Asset start" have? If I shut down my server, I cannot alter any files on it, so why should I have to rescan? Is it safe to shut the option off, when I want to keep the load on my server's processor as low as possible, or does this option serve another purpose I do not see right now? Right now, I have set it to "off"

Thanks for considering and:looking forward on V2 final :-)

[DrFink]

Re: Asset UPnP (DLNA) Release 2

Updated Asset 9/9/9
Folder & file Browsing - the folders are exposed as a SotrageContainer so can be added in one go to a playlist

Just installed Release 2 RC1, to check if "the folders are exposed as a SotrageContainer so can be added in one go to a playlist" means, that folders can be added to the SONOS playlist. Well, it's still not possible - I hope it's still on the "to do"-list (maybe after the final of Asset v2).

But I don't want to sound negative - the new features (in comparison to v1.1) are great and a big improvement. Great work, Spoon!

DrFink

[DrFink]

Re: Asset UPnP (DLNA) Release 2

DrFink:

Please send over one mp3 with a genre which goes missing in Asset:

http://www.dbpoweramp.com/email.htm

You've got mail.

[Spoon]

Re: Asset UPnP (DLNA) Release 2

Updated Asset 9/9/9

Displays version number as RC1, code is now frozen and we hope to release in 1-2 weeks (only help files to update and any last bugs removed)

Added additional Playlist items:
Jukebox Track Selection - randomly selects 100 tracks based on rating (5 star rated items are played more than 1 star)
Previously Played Tracks
PS3 - no longer cutting short mp3 tracks with a large album art
When browsing by albums, was returning Album Art of "" when there was none
Folder & file Browsing - the folders are exposed as a SotrageContainer so can be added in one go to a playlist
All audio items returned as object.item.audioItem (previously could return as object.item if unknown audio type)
Roku can playback playlist tracks
for windows install, asset run options -
Runs Locally (default)
As a Service
Disabled
25 second delay in startup of asset if run from service as network might not have come up
Asset + port added to windows firewall (all os)
internet radio, dynamic playlists and file system browsing are restricted to 'Asset Premium' version (which will require registration for $26, note any RipNAS install is automatically registered), 'Asset Premium' trial activated on install for 30 days (full release will be within 30 days). ** Note the registration pages are not active **

[Spoon]

Re: Asset UPnP (DLNA) Release 2

Almost certainly then, the Internet Radio streams are WMA and we install the WMA system codecs which perhaps would not like wine.

[ocoro02]

Re: Asset UPnP (DLNA) Release 2

I'll try setting up Asset on a Windows PC and compare the results...

[ocoro02]

Re: Asset UPnP (DLNA) Release 2

Sorry for being a pain Spoon - still can't get internet radio working ... but it might be due to the fact I'm running Asset under Wine on Ubuntu!

I've run a tcpdump and can see that the Asset server appears to make 2 attempts at a transaction with the remote server (it's grabbing a url on port 80 on the remote server) then stops. I've opened up the firewall on my adsl router (with my netgear I can't actually turn it off - I have to port forward all ports to a particular ip on my subnet - I forwarded both udp & tcp to the Asset server).

I ran a tcpdump from the Asset server to the DS at the same time and I can see the DS is making a request on the Asset server (port 26125). Again it looks like 2 requests so I'm guessing the DS is making a request to Asset, Asset's trying to grab the url from the remote radio server, something fails, DS tries one more time, then gives up. T
here's definitely transactions from Asset to the radio server. so it doesn't look like anything's being blocked. The Asset box is not running a firewall BTW.

One problem with Wine is that rather vital services may be missing. Wondering if internet radio relies on any extra services on the Asset server box?

[Spoon]

Re: Asset UPnP (DLNA) Release 2

DrFink:

Please send over one mp3 with a genre which goes missing in Asset:

http://www.dbpoweramp.com/email.htm

Version details is now in the item [Details] in the root tree.

@ocoro02: Internet radio would require various ports opening, they are standard wma streaming ports (not sure off the top of my head what they are), if you can test disabling the firewall for 2 minutes to see if that is the cause.

[ocoro02]

Re: Asset UPnP (DLNA) Release 2

I still can't get the internet radio feature working - does anything need opening firewall-wise? In KinskyDesktop when I drag the station to the playlist window and hit 'play, it thinks about it for a couple of seconds then does nothing (Kinsky's not indicating that it's playing it either).

[DrFink]

Re: Asset UPnP (DLNA) Release 2

Hallo,

I own a SONOS music system, with installed Asset V1. Yesterday I installed the RC2 of Asset V2 to checkout the new features (and fixes of bugs). The option to browse by files and folders is a great new feature, but I hoped that now it would be possible to add a whole folder to the SONOS playlist which would be great because so far it's not possible to add a whole album to the playlist. Are there any plans to make adding a folder (or adding an album) possible ?

Furthermore I wanted to check out if one bug I found in V1 is fixed in RC V2 - well, it isn't:

I've tagged all my music files with Foobar2000 (with standard options) - flac files and mp3 files. The bug that still exists: Asset in my Sonos doesn't show the "Genre" field of my mp3 files! It displays "Unknown Genre" although the "Genre" fields are filled with different values (but not the standard values like "Pop", "Rock", "R&B" etc. but with my own individual values).

The genre field of my flac files are displayed correctly, all the other tag-fields I filled (title, artist, album, track-no. and composer) of my flac and mp3 files are displayed correctly.

So first I wanted to know if that is a Sonos bug or a Asset bug: I started PlugPlayer on my Ipod Touch (with Asset as server and iPod as client), and PlugPlayer even doesn't show the Genre fields of my mp3 and flac files - so even worse. So it's doesn't seem to be a Sonos bug.

Then I checked a mp3 file which is not tagged with Foobar2000 - and here the Genre is displayed correctly!. So what's the difference? I found a difference in the "Contains" field (in "Advanced search") in Asset:

- In "Contains" all my FLAC files have the value: "CRC, ID Tags (Vorbis Comments)"
- In "Contains" the mp3 file with was not tagged with Foobar2000 has the value "ID Tag [ID3v2.3 (UTF16) & ID3v1.0]". I checked some other mp3 files (not tagged with Foobar2000) - they have the value "ID Tag [ID3v2.3 (UTF16) & ID3v1.1]".
- In "Contains" the mp3 files with were tagged with Foobar2000 have the values "[ID3v1.0]" or "[ID3v1.1]".

So, it seems that Foobar2000 doesn't write ID3v2.3 in mp3 files, and that Asset doesn't recognize the value in "Genre" of mp3 files with no ID3v2.3.

On the Foobar2000 FAQ page - http://www.foobar2000.org/FAQ- there is one interesting statement in the "Tagging Files" section:

MP3 tags (ID3v2) added or modified by foobar2000 are not read or are read improperly in application X or portable player Y. What can I do?

foobar2000 writes ID3v2.4 tags encoded as UTF-8 by default. To deal with broken software/hardware with partial support of the ID3v2 standard, an 'ID3v2 writer compatibility mode' has been added ('Preferences, Advanced, Tagging, MP3, ID3v2 writer compatibility mode'); it results in non-standard-compliant tags being written (ID3v2.3 instead of ID3v2.4, UTF-16, no unsynchronization, no padding), but attempts to dodge known bugs in other ID3v2 implementations.

Well, by default this "ID3v2 writer compatibility mode" is not checked (and also not checked when I tagged all my files). The "Preferred tagging scheme" is of course "ID3v2 + ID3v1".

BTW, all my mp3 files are encoded with Lame 3.9x (which is also shown in "Encoder" in "Advanced Search" in Asset).

So my "wish" is: Let Asset support all ID3-fields of non-ID3v2.3 mp3 files - especially the Genre field.


And a last remark: Where in RC2 is the [Details Section] section (which shows among other things the library details) which was in the tree in V1? I don't want to start my WHS console to see the Asset details of my library.


DrFink

[Spoon]

Re: Asset UPnP (DLNA) Release 2

We do this currently as a folder might have 300 tracks, and it could take a minute or two to read the tags for it, by which time the control point would have timed out.

[Offwhite]

Re: Asset UPnP (DLNA) Release 2

As a followup to the previous post, the 3 discrete fields are indeed displayed propelry in tree views other than Browse Folder.

[Offwhite]

Re: Asset UPnP (DLNA) Release 2

I'm using R2 rC with DENON 3808ci, and have noticed an artifact of Asset UPnP. I've noticed this playing back files in the Browse Folder view of the tree, and haven't yet tested to see if it's different when playing back through a different tree view.

The Denon has 3 onscreen info fields (song title, artist, album), which are normally all 3 populated when mp3 tags are fully updated. I've observed this with WMP, TVersity.

With Asset UPnP, the Song Title field seems to show the physical file name which will scroll across the screen, but the other two fields show as:

Unknown Conductor
Unknown Album

(why Conductor instead of Artist, as the other servers show, I don't know)


Is there any configuration which is necessary to properly display these 3 fields discretely?

By the way, Asst UPnP is off to a fantastic start, I like it. If there is any info that I can provide to help with this issue please let me know.

[Spoon]

Re: Asset UPnP (DLNA) Release 2

@msilverz

I have looked at the file - it is 2.5MB long and contains a PNG artwork at the beginning (~400KB), we report to the PS3 that the file is 1m33 seconds long and has a bit rate of 24 (which is 192Kbps). The PS3 then asks for 1m33 x 24 = 2.2MB...it is quite stupid if it thinks there would not be an id tag on the front. So either we report a wrong bitrate (calculated on the file size) or leave it cutting short on the PS3.

<edit> there is something we can do, we can detect the PS3 and adjust specially for it. When the next beta is released, do a Rescan (refresh all) and it should be right.

[ocoro02]

Re: Asset UPnP (DLNA) Release 2

Ah OK, thanks - thought so. Can't get it working. Will try again.