dBpoweramp Release 13.1

[bhoar]

Re: dBpoweramp Release 13.1

Hmm. Looking at the log of XL1B/matsushita w/ c2 on, I'm seeing a lot of jumps between incorrectly-marked bad frame areas of ~20-25 frames. That seems like another indicator of some sort of IO-strategy related artifact if the buffer size is around 23 frames.

Information ripping to Test Conversion, 'Track 10' to 'C:\Documents and Settings\Super User\My Documents\My Music\U2\The Unforgettable Fire\U2 - The Unforgettable Fire - 10 - MLK.IGNORE'
   Track 10:  Ripped LBA 180942 to 192467 (2:33) in 13:57. Filename: C:\Documents and Settings\Super User\My Documents\My Music\U2\The Unforgettable Fire\U2 - The Unforgettable Fire - 10 - MLK.IGNORE
     AccurateRip: Inaccurate (confidence 11)   Insecure  [Pass 1, Re-Rip 2363 Frames]
     CRC32: 228AE5AA     AccurateRip CRC: DD12F731     [DiscID: 010-001054a3-0081c234-640a060a-10]
       Re-rip Frame: 180954 (00:00:00.160) matched 10 / 11
       Re-rip Frame: 181012 (00:00:00.933) matched 10 / 11
       Re-rip Frame: 181013 (00:00:00.946) matched 10 / 11
       Re-rip Frame: 181014 (00:00:00.960) matched 10 / 11
       Re-rip Frame: 181015 (00:00:00.973) matched 10 / 11
       Re-rip Frame: 181016 (00:00:00.986) matched 10 / 11
       Re-rip Frame: 181017 (00:00:01.000) matched 10 / 11
       Re-rip Frame: 181018 (00:00:01.013) matched 10 / 11
       Re-rip Frame: 181019 (00:00:01.026) matched 10 / 11 
       Re-rip Frame: 181044 (00:00:01.360) matched 10 / 11  =-> 25 frames
       Re-rip Frame: 181045 (00:00:01.373) matched 10 / 11 
       Re-rip Frame: 181092 (00:00:02.000) matched 10 / 11  =-> 47 frames (~23 x 2)
       Re-rip Frame: 181093 (00:00:02.013) matched 10 / 11
       Re-rip Frame: 181094 (00:00:02.026) matched 10 / 11
       Re-rip Frame: 181096 (00:00:02.053) matched 10 / 11
       Re-rip Frame: 181097 (00:00:02.066) matched 10 / 11
       Re-rip Frame: 181140 (00:00:02.640) matched 10 / 11 =-> 43 frames (~21 x 2)
       Re-rip Frame: 181141 (00:00:02.653) matched 10 / 11
       Re-rip Frame: 181142 (00:00:02.666) matched 10 / 11
       Re-rip Frame: 181143 (00:00:02.680) matched 10 / 11
       Re-rip Frame: 181144 (00:00:02.693) matched 10 / 11
       Re-rip Frame: 181146 (00:00:02.720) matched 10 / 11
       Re-rip Frame: 181147 (00:00:02.733) matched 10 / 11
       Re-rip Frame: 181148 (00:00:02.746) matched 10 / 11
       Re-rip Frame: 181149 (00:00:02.760) matched 10 / 11
       Re-rip Frame: 181172 (00:00:03.066) matched 10 / 11 =-> 23 frames
       Re-rip Frame: 181173 (00:00:03.080) matched 10 / 11  (c2 dropped 1)
       Re-rip Frame: 181174 (00:00:03.093) matched 10 / 11
       Re-rip Frame: 181175 (00:00:03.106) matched 10 / 11
       Re-rip Frame: 181198 (00:00:03.413) matched 10 / 11 =-> 23 frames
       Re-rip Frame: 181199 (00:00:03.426) matched 10 / 11
       Re-rip Frame: 181200 (00:00:03.440) matched 10 / 11
       Re-rip Frame: 181201 (00:00:03.453) matched 10 / 11
       Re-rip Frame: 181203 (00:00:03.480) matched 10 / 11
       Re-rip Frame: 181204 (00:00:03.493) matched 10 / 11
       Re-rip Frame: 181205 (00:00:03.506) matched 10 / 11
       Re-rip Frame: 181206 (00:00:03.520) matched 10 / 11
       Re-rip Frame: 181207 (00:00:03.533) matched 10 / 11
       Re-rip Frame: 181208 (00:00:03.546) matched 10 / 11
       Re-rip Frame: 181209 (00:00:03.560) matched 10 / 11
       Re-rip Frame: 181210 (00:00:03.573) matched 10 / 11
       Re-rip Frame: 181211 (00:00:03.586) matched 10 / 11
       Re-rip Frame: 181212 (00:00:03.600) matched 10 / 11
       Re-rip Frame: 181213 (00:00:03.613) matched 10 / 11
       Re-rip Frame: 181214 (00:00:03.626) matched 10 / 11
       Re-rip Frame: 181218 (00:00:03.680) matched 10 / 11  (c2 dropped 6)
       Re-rip Frame: 181235 (00:00:03.906) matched 10 / 11 =-> 21 frames, not including previous frame
       Re-rip Frame: 181236 (00:00:03.920) matched 10 / 11
       Re-rip Frame: 181237 (00:00:03.933) matched 10 / 11
       Re-rip Frame: 181238 (00:00:03.946) matched 10 / 11
       Re-rip Frame: 181239 (00:00:03.960) matched 10 / 11
...

-brendan

[bhoar]

Re: dBpoweramp Release 13.1

If EAC works with it then there is not need to take the Sony apart What is the pattern of c2 error detection? in clumps together? or spread evenly over the disc (if you switch on the most detailed logging it gives positions). With another CD are the positions the same?

I can repeat the problem on my XL1B.

e.g.:

I have a scratched copy of The Unforgettable Fire, and am ripping the last track because it is shortest and also on the fastest part of the disc.

With C2 off, after two passes, it tells me there are 97 frames to rerip.

With C2 on, after one pass, it tells me there are 2363 frames to rerip, seemingly spread out pretty evenly across the track.

Same disc/track in my PX-230a: with c2 off, 361 frames, with c2 on 270 frames.

I sent the logs from all four tests to spoon. All four were conducted on the same notebook.

-brendan

EDIT: had the numbers for the wrong track, fixed.

[Spoon]

Re: dBpoweramp Release 13.1

If EAC works with it then there is not need to take the Sony apart What is the pattern of c2 error detection? in clumps together? or spread evenly over the disc (if you switch on the most detailed logging it gives positions). With another CD are the positions the same?

[bhoar]

Re: dBpoweramp Release 13.1

The new beta (20080906) release works with my current firewire bridges (like spoon's test build did). I need to re-setup my XL1B system to test if that acts any differently.

-brendan

[bhoar]

Re: dBpoweramp Release 13.1

Excellent idea brendan! Turns out that EAC is able to use the C2 pointers with this changer without issue. This makes me wonder how different dBpoweramp's implementation of C2 pointers is from EAC's. Knowing now that C2 works with EAC will taking apart the changer still be necessary to help facilitate a solution for dBpoweramp?

Ok. I did some build testing for spoon a couple of weeks back with two of my firewire bridges and had success. Hmmm. Might be an issue specific to the XL1B, or perhaps the fixes for C2 over firewire didn't make it correctly into the last beta release.

I'll retest my two firewire bridges tomorrow and also try a test with one of my XL1B units as well.

-brendan

[Spies]

Re: dBpoweramp Release 13.1

Spies:

You would have to try a direct connection to the drive, and use R13.0 to verify where the problem lies. (ie if R13.0 works and R13.1 does not with a direct IDE connection then the problem is R13.1, if not then the problem is the drive reporting false c2 errors).

This may not be a practical thing for me to try at the moment since it will most likely require me to completely disassemble the changer. To be honest I am not to comfortable with the idea either. I will have to think about it.

Spies - can you also try EAC's C2 support with a disc in the changer drive?

-brendan

Excellent idea brendan! Turns out that EAC is able to use the C2 pointers with this changer without issue. This makes me wonder how different dBpoweramp's implementation of C2 pointers is from EAC's. Knowing now that C2 works with EAC will taking apart the changer still be necessary to help facilitate a solution for dBpoweramp?

[bhoar]

Re: dBpoweramp Release 13.1

Spies - can you also try EAC's C2 support with a disc in the changer drive?

-brendan

[Spoon]

Re: dBpoweramp Release 13.1

Spies:

You would have to try a direct connection to the drive, and use R13.0 to verify where the problem lies. (ie if R13.0 works and R13.1 does not with a direct IDE connection then the problem is R13.1, if not then the problem is the drive reporting false c2 errors).

[Spies]

Re: dBpoweramp Release 13.1

CD Ripper - now supports c2 error pointers over firewire

This new functionality does not seem to work properly with the Sony VGP-XL1Bx series changers. CD Ripper will report that the drive supports C2 pointers however when performing a rip many C2 errors will be reported when there should be none.

For example with a new undamaged CD I get over 2900 C2 errors reported on the first 3 minute track alone. If I disable C2 the track rips fine without errors and is Accurate Rip verified.

CD Ripper reports the drive mechanism as MATSHITA - DVD-RAM SW-9584 with 4 KB of cache and C2 pointers. Not sure of its ability to read into Lead-in and Lead-out.

[bhoar]

Re: dBpoweramp Release 13.1

Changes:

CD Ripper - now supports c2 error pointers over firewire
CD Ripper - fail safe detection of drives (will return Unknown for name)
bug fix: CD Ripper - was possible a device change (new drive appearing) could effect existing CD Ripping

Three cheers!

-brendan

[Spoon]

Re: dBpoweramp Release 13.1

Update 6 Sept2008

Big update (see first message), full release should be 2-3 weeks (need a few minor issues to fix).

[Spoon]

Re: dBpoweramp Release 13.1

It is only because you have activated the Reference trial, so you have the reference version until that trial runs out, then it will revert to your Power Pack. To manually do it, set the month forward 2 months, run CD Ripper, then put the month back.

[festus1s]

Re: dBpoweramp Release 13.1

I am sorry to bother you again but that didn't work or am I reading this wrong? I down loaded again uninstalled then re-installed

__________________________________________________ ______________
dbpoweramp Music Converter
Release 13

Registration Status [Register]

Reference: Trial(17 days remaining) Power Pack:Registered

AMG, ETC. ETC.
__________________________________________________ ______________

(On Wednesday, May 21, 2008 you purchased dBpoweramp Music Converter R13 (Registered),
costing $18. This charge appears on your credit card from 'WP-ILLUSTRATE'
if paid by WorldPay, or 'DBPOWERAMP' if Paypal was used.)

Thank You Again

[Spoon]

Re: dBpoweramp Release 13.1

Re-issue registered version of dBpowerAMP can be downloaded from this page:

http://www.dbpoweramp.com/registration/

[festus1s]

Re: dBpoweramp Release 13.1

I am having trouble getting back to release 13. I hit yes to uninstall 13 when I went to the Beta 13.1 by mistake. It went to trial version. So I uninstalled 13.1 and re-installed my registered version 13 but I am still in TRIAL with 17 days remaining. What can I do to get this corrected?

Thank You