Discussion of dMC R13

[tilmaen]

Re: Discussion of dMC R13

Hi!
I'm a complete noob to this forum. just wanted to tell you guys: great work! can't wait for the first alpha with cue support. from what i read cue-sheet support is planned for R13, right?
greetings
tilmaen

[Spoon]

Re: Discussion of dMC R13

Cue sheet writing will appear shortly after R13 release (DSP effects should be able to handle them).

[AndersHu]

Re: Discussion of dMC R13

In the Manual Meta Review ALT+M, if I manually change the name of one track and then press the looked up data of another track, my manual changes are undone.
Is this by design or a bug?

Is there any way the make the Manual Meta Review case aware?

[Spoon]

Re: Discussion of dMC R13

By desin, those buttons are to move the whole data set from a provider across. It is case aware but within its confidence system.

[AndersHu]

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I'm not talking about the buttons, but the spelling for each track.
If I manually change the spelling on track 1, and then click on the spelling from MusicBrainz for track 2, track 2 is updated and track 1 is reverted back to default spelling.

[Spoon]

Re: Discussion of dMC R13

To change just track 2, click the text for track 2 on Musicbrainz, not the button.

[AndersHu]

Re: Discussion of dMC R13

My problem is not the button.
I do click the text for track 2 on MusicBrainz, but then my manual changes for track 1 are reverted.

[Spoon]

Re: Discussion of dMC R13

Confirmed bug.

[modusmortis]

Re: Discussion of dMC R13

Is it possible to add support in R13 for displaying album art in windows explorer for flac files that have the art embedded in the file?

I just tried R13 and it picks up the ID3 tag data just fine. If I right click on a flac file and do properties, then click on the "ID-Tag" tab, I can click on the view button to see the ablum art. So R13 is seeing it. However, when I view the flac files in windows explorer I just get the generic flac icon and not the album art. (I can see the art for all my mp3 files properly though.) Also, if I view by details, I don't see the columns filled in with the ID3 tag info, although the info is there if I right click/properties or mouse over the flac file.

My OS is 64 bit vista. I'm willing to test out any new builds that add in this feature.

Thanks,
MM

[LtData]

Re: Discussion of dMC R13

Windows Explorer cannot read the meta-data in FLAC files, and as far as I know, there is no way to add this. It is a Microsoft issue and they would have to be the ones to fix it (not likely).

[Teknojnky]

Re: Discussion of dMC R13

cdgrab > options > metadata > write album art to path > does not utilize [album].jpg mask to save the album art to the [name of the album].jpg.

I would expect it to use the same masks as the other tokens.

[Porcus]

Re: Discussion of dMC R13

The below quoted bug is still there with today's version. No big issue though, rather a nuissance. With my naming pattern, all tracks get wrong titles, the last track gets an unknown artist, and for these particular CDs it is hard to tag from freedb. Solution: find, delete, re-rip with PerfectMeta turned off.

PerfectMeta does not handle HTOA correctly. Even though each of the metadata sources do, PerfectMeta will write it as (example with 8 tracks)

0 <Name of track 1>
1 <Name of track 2>
2 <Name of track 3>
3 <Name of track 4>
4 <Name of track 5>
5 <Name of track 6>
6 <Name of track 7>
6 <Name of track 8>
8 Track 8.


Error is consistent when I press Alt-m, and also when it tags and names the ripped files (the last track will be tagged and named as an Unknown artist).


Tried two discs and two drives, same result.

[Porcus]

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Another PerfectMeta issue:

I just found a CD where AMG disagrees with GD and MusicBrainz, who mutually agree -- except for spacing in some (not all) fields. Then since AMG has highest priority, it was chosen for these fields and not for the others. AMG was clearly pointing to a different release too, so I got metadata mixed from two different CDs.

A more "intelligent" (right ...) algorithm could be
-> for the purposes of deciding which ones are wrong, first perform a comparison with spaces and dots and special characters stripped.
-> If two sources agree at that point, then AMG is outvoted
-> If this is the case for sufficiently many fields in one disc, then weight these two sources heavier for the rest.

Example -- disregard freedb here, assume we only use AMG, GD, MusicBrainz:
If GD and MusicBrainz agree that this is Performer 'Foo' Album 'Bar' and AMG says it is Performer 'Someone' Album 'Else', then GD and MusicBrainz have the upper hand. Now if GD writes a song title as 'What If ...' and MusicBrainz as 'What If...', then PerfectMeta would choose AMG's song title. A wiser choice would be to disregard the space and conclude that GD and MusicBrainz agree, and pick one of them.

If GD has 'Foo' and 'Bar!' while MusicBrainz has 'Foo?' and 'Bar' then likewise they should be considered in agreement, I think.


And, finally: Suppose that GD and MusicBrainz are considered to be in agreement on all tracks except the last one, which according to GD is 'Untitled' and MusicBrainz is 'Bonus Track'. Clearly, AMG's information is about a different album than the two others, so AMG should be scored down and either GD or MusicBrainz should be chosen.


Alternatively: If the differences are so significant that it is clear that AMG mentions a different album, then disregard it being outvoted and stick to it -- since AMG metadata can only be inserted upon ripping (while MusicBrainz can later, right?)

[EliC]

Re: Discussion of dMC R13

I have started a perfectmeta thread for discussing perfectmeta issues. I agree. I have seen many cases where there is evidence that AMG is weighted to heavily in the algorithm. Simple spacing differences or [ vs ( are often the only difference between GD3 and MB. MB, IMHO seems to have the best data. AMG does not include alot of track subtitles. AMG does offer a lot of additional fields that the other providers do not.

[EliC]

Re: Discussion of dMC R13

Here is the thread for PerfectMeta formatting suggestions:

http://forum.dbpoweramp.com/showthread.php?t=16781