Problem with Ogg tags & album cover

[Monkey King]

Dear users
I seem to have a problem when I rip ogg's.
The same thing happens whether I rip straight from CD or convert from fully tagged FLAC.
The ogg files don't have any tags upon completion of the rip.

Pardon if this is basic - searching the forums I haven't found the solution.

Also, tagging in MP3TAG does create a tag, but not one 'seen' by DBPA or my Cowon S9.

Why can't tag Oggs?
Cheers
Noob

[Spoon]

Re: Problem with Ogg tags & album cover

Right click on a dBpoweramp ripped ogg >> Edit ID Tag, does it show tags?

[Monkey King]

Re: Problem with Ogg tags & album cover

Yes Sir, it does. I have tried to edit tags this way, but it says "Unable to write ID Tags for G:\filepath\example.ogg"

Incidentally, I'm using an out of date version I think...13.1?
I have XP.

Thanks.
Can try to capture screen shots if helpful.

[Spoon]

Re: Problem with Ogg tags & album cover

Something has locked the file (perhaps it is playing?) so it cannot be written.

[Monkey King]

Re: Problem with Ogg tags & album cover

Ah...no Sir, I wish it was that obvious, but alas no, I wasn't playing the file while simultaneously trying to edit it. Unless something else can lock it?

I've tried three different ways with different files and CDs
1) Ripping ogg from CD with dbpa
2) Converting ogg from fully tagged FLAC with dbpa
3) Tagging ogg with MP3Tag

Trying (3) does tag the ogg so that it can be seen with MP3Tag, but the tag created is invisible to dbpa and my Cowon S9.

Any suggestions to trial or settings to check would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers

[Spoon]

Re: Problem with Ogg tags & album cover

A virus checker could block the file.

[Monkey King]

Re: Problem with Ogg tags & album cover

Definitely no virus checker running.
Any other suggestions?
(will try to post some screen-grabs)

[Spoon]

Re: Problem with Ogg tags & album cover

Make sure you have installed the Standard dbpoweramp Ogg encoder and decoder as that writes the tags.

[Monkey King]

Re: Problem with Ogg tags & album cover

Ok, thanks, will try to reinstall that.
Here are the screen grabs finally:
1) Missing tag

http://www.flickr.com/photos/44751776@N08/4510591872/

2) Blank 'sheet'

http://www.flickr.com/photos/44751776@N08/4510591964/

3) Error message

http://www.flickr.com/photos/44751776@N08/4510591980/

[Spoon]

Re: Problem with Ogg tags & album cover

Try converting that ogg file to something else, seems to me the standard ogg libararies might think it is corrupted.

[Monkey King]

Re: Problem with Ogg tags & album cover

Right, reinstalled the codec (it was up to date).

Converted to ogg from tagged FLAC.
No tags

Converted that to LAME MP3.
No tags

Does this tell you anything Spoon?

[Spoon]

Re: Problem with Ogg tags & album cover

Was the audio written to the other file (flac) of the correct length?

[Monkey King]

Re: Problem with Ogg tags & album cover

Johnny Cash, Cry Cry Cry
Flac (2min 23sec) --> ogg (2 min 23 sec) --> mp3 (2 min 22 sec)

[Monkey King]

Re: Problem with Ogg tags & album cover

FYI just loaded ogg encoder for winamp.
Converted tagged FLAC again.
Tag was invisible to dbpoweramp but visible with mp3tag.
But still also invisible to Cowon S9.

Very puzzled!

[Spoon]

Re: Problem with Ogg tags & album cover

You might be writing the wrong type of tags? they should be vorbis comments in flac and ogg vorbis.