...tag already-ripped CDs?

[robinbowes]

Hi,

I've got a bunch of CDs that I've already ripped using EAC, and tagged manually. However, the AMG tags are *much* better.

Is it possible to grab AMG tags and apply them to existing FLAC files?

Thanks,

R.

[Spoon]

Re: ...tag already-ripped CDs?

Not currently.

[robinbowes]

Re: ...tag already-ripped CDs?

Not currently.

Doh.

Any plans? I'd seriously love this capability.

I presume it's an AMG licensing thing?

R.

[Spoon]

Re: ...tag already-ripped CDs?

AMG licensing and time, to do it propperly it would need a whole new program which would list the changes made, before and after so they can be undone, because once the file is off the CD it is not an exact science getting correct metadata.

With the right licensing we have audio finger printing at out disposal as well.

[robinbowes]

Re: ...tag already-ripped CDs?

AMG licensing and time, to do it propperly it would need a whole new program which would list the changes made, before and after so they can be undone, because once the file is off the CD it is not an exact science getting correct metadata.

With the right licensing we have audio finger printing at out disposal as well.

Mmmm, that would be once *really* nice application.

I have > 5000 albums ripped, and it would be nice to sort out the metadata from AMG.

R.

[robinbowes]

Re: ...tag already-ripped CDs?

Hi,

Can you clarify if this is something that you're planning to add in the future? If so, do you have any time frame for it?

Thanks,

R.

[Spoon]

Re: ...tag already-ripped CDs?

Not within 4-6 months, it is more of a legal issue rather than a practical (have to negotiate with the metadata providers).

[robinbowes]

Re: ...tag already-ripped CDs?

Not within 4-6 months, it is more of a legal issue rather than a practical (have to negotiate with the metadata providers).

OK, thanks for the update.

That's a *big* shame though. The dBpoweramp ripping experience is extremely good, mainly for the metadata that is retrieved. I'd really love to sort out the tags in all my existing rips.

R.

[atlantic]

Re: ...tag already-ripped CDs?

If it's any help, maybe you could use dedicated software like Tag&Rename. However, it only incorporates freedb and Amazon as sources. Otherwise an excellent and verstatile tagging software.

Freedb and Amazon in Tag&Raname has provided me with good results for the dozens of mp3 albums I've tagged with it, save for the lack of composer data. Haven't used it for my FLACs though.

Maybe some other tagging software can make use of additional databases like GD3 or even AMG.

[LtData]

Re: ...tag already-ripped CDs?

When I had to do some re-tagging of my music files, I used "The Godfather". I believe it will also query AMG besides just freedb.

[Fredipus]

Re: ...tag already-ripped CDs?

Could the ripper be modified to update tags if you had the CD?

I understand that even with audio fingerprinting and the like, it could be a lot of work to create a re-tagging PerfectMeta.

But could a part-way solution be that, if you have the CD, insert the CD and do a "just enough" rip that can grab the TOC and a few other bits and then update the existing FLACs/MP3s/whatever? Sort of a rip-without-the-ripping.

That seems like something that could be doable via a DSP (weird name for plug-in, BTW). Run the rip with the "no-rip" DSP and the post-rip meta-data updating could be done just like normal (maybe requiring a quick kill-existing metadata first).

Granted, this isn't saving a WHOLE lot of time compared to just reripping, but given enough CDs, maybe worth it.

Of course, I'd probably want a "check AccurateRip on lossless" DSP as well - make sure those files are perfect. And at that point, it probably isn't much of a time saver.

Just a thought.

[Spoon]

Re: ...tag already-ripped CDs?

The ripper would not know which tags were used originally to find the files (if came from freedb it might have a different filename to musicbrainz).

[Fredipus]

Re: ...tag already-ripped CDs?

I assumed that I'd have to do a little manual massaging first - making sure the filenames were in a format that dbPowerAmp recognized.

For example, if dbPowerAmp was set up to rip a CD and create a FLAC file in a "\artist\album\number - trackname.flac" set up, the files would have to at least have that naming convention, even if all the metadata was screwy. Maybe even just "track number.flac" to make things really simple.

I have no idea about the internal of the ripper, but the way EAC does things is "rip to wav" then "compress to FLAC" then "add tags". We'd just skip the first two, and keep the last.

The batch converter already kind of understands about "stuff that's already been done" vs. "stuff that needs to be done again" when a conversion fails, so it's a similar concept. For the CD ripper, it's the ripping and the compression that has "already been done", it's just the tagging that's missing.

Again, not trying to create work for you. Just a thought.

[svyr]

Re: ...tag already-ripped CDs?

Hi,

I've got a bunch of CDs that I've already ripped using EAC, and tagged manually. However, the AMG tags are *much* better.

Is it possible to grab AMG tags and apply them to existing FLAC files?

Thanks,

R.

you can get freedb tags if that's good enough. http://mp3tag.de.
not only for flacs, but for other formats, and with a lot of useful features (file renames, covers, search on amazon/discogs for tag info if freedb doesn't have it). it's also freeware =P