No praise here (feedback)

[whitehouse]

Hello,

I must uninstall, but it was useful.

Feedback (win98se):

The dds file for equalization wouldn't load, so I used the deq file instead (puzzled, but I'm new to the program). Equalization sliders needed markers or graduated steps. Too much time and effort was required to set the equalization curve. Why present such a LOUD initial setting and force the user to spend time lowering the entire curve ? ... Puzzled again, does the volume slider work ?

A drop-down mouse-cursor file description is fine on a webpage, but dBpowerAMP installs this in Windows Explorer. It is slow and VERY ANNOYING .... an hour glass appears, the description blocks your view, there is a wait before the file can be accessed with a double click, etc. etc. etc., VERY ANNOYING ! ....... (In order to work with files, this application is a definite uninstall, so good-bye dBpowerAMP).

I like the player, but I wish the interface was double in size.

That's all, would like to see improvements, thanks.

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[ChristinaS]

Re: No praise here (feedback)

There are numerous skins for dAP.

[Spoon]

Re: No praise here (feedback)

>It is slow and VERY ANNOYING .... an hour glass appears

That is the popup information, on 100% of modern computers you will not see the hour glass, only on slow computers, but it can be switched off (install dBpowerAMP Music Converter and switch off the tool tip option).

[xoas]

Re: No praise here (feedback)

I have run dAP very successfully on a Windows 95 system
Did you intall the Windows 98 system updates when you installed dAP?
I ask because yes the volume slider does work.

Also you might want to try the StudioPro skin or Craze-The Studio skins. Both have larger interfaces and feature the clearest largest EQ sliders of any of dAP's skins.
You will find both of these here:

http://www.aussiecommunity.com.au/forum/showpost.php?p=86&postcount=1

Best wishes,
Bill

[Craze]

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I have no problems running on Win98SE. Perhaps this is just a problem with your machine.
Is this happening after a fresh start or reboot? If things are slow on your machine, perhaps too many items are loading up at start up.
[START/RUN, type MSCONFIG, OK, (General/Selective Startup,...uncheck items as needed from STARTUP Tab)]
Your antivirus software may also be loading you down a bit. Try quitting anything you're not using.
You'll find that this is an excellent product with a little patience.
Best wishes.
-Craze

[neilthecellist]

Re: No praise here (feedback)

On a sidenote, many computers (especially guys' for some reason....**hint hint**) tend to have an unnaturally large amount of unnecessary Services running...

[whitehouse]

Re: No praise here (feedback)

Thank you all for the response.

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About the hourglass,

The OS is totally up-to-date.
The system loads only what is needed at start-up.
No CPU intensive programs are allowed (AV is an older Nod32).
Several popular anti-spyware applications are installed & used.

System speed is 300 MHz, so I'll switch the tool tip option off. I didn't know this option existed, as options aren't listed on the interface.

The default skin for the player is fine, but the player doesn't sort files to an alphabetical order. Perhaps this is also an option ?

I've noticed that saving and loading equalization definitions for the Power Pack DSP in the Music Converter seems to be buggy. Sometimes I lose the settings. Other times, the sliders are out of place. The volume slider works on the player, but not on the Power Pack DSP (I didn't make that clear). Also, the player's equalization curve changes to a previous setting when a slider is touched. This happened several times, so I opened another curve and it stopped (or I started another mp3 file and it stopped, I can't remember which).

To save time, it looks like the deq files in use by the Power Pack DSP must be kept with the mp3 files that are being processed. The player's equalizer will be pointing to its own folder. Too much mis-direction here. I still don't know what a dds file is for, 'cause there just isn't time. EOF

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[ChristinaS]

Re: No praise here (feedback)

The WIndows 98 Updates that Xoas is referring to are from http://www.dbpoweramp.com/Windows95-Update.htm .

While they are official Microsoft updates, you need not have had them as they may never have been encessary.

Diffrent dAP skins have different features. Some skins have controls not all skins have.

The sorting of audio files I believe is achieved through My Music Collection which can be arranged in various ways. You will find this program in the dBpowerAMP group.

[xoas]

Re: No praise here (feedback)

the player doesn't sort files to an alphabetical order. Perhaps this is also an option ?

In dAP, My Music Collection (MMC) is used as the library for referencing and storing track information. The default setting will be to arrange alphabeticaaly all tracks by each artist (artists also arranged in alphabetical order of first names). MMC gets this information from tag and/or filename information. If this information is incomplete or missing, this will mess with the order. MMC does allow you to arrange tracks in different ways. If you are seeing something different, can you describe the order that you are seeing in MMC?

The volume slider works on the player, but not on the Power Pack DSP

I am not sure what volume control you are referring to that is associated with Power Pack DSP. Are you perhaps referring to the Volume Normalization function in Music Converter (dMC)? If not, can you tell me where you are finding this volume control?

Best wishes,
Bill

[LtData]

Re: No praise here (feedback)

If I remember correctly, the Volume Normalize had a few bugs that were fixed in dMC r11.5rc2. Link below.

[Spoons]

Re: No praise here (feedback)

well you are right about the EQ needs some work and attention. well those of us who like to use EQ's think so!! :teufel8:

however it is one of the best EQ's out there. there are 2 sliders that don't work, so essentially it is an 18 band EQ with 20 sliders. i dont remember off hand wich sliders had no freq assinged.

you will find some skins that have the increments on them here: http://www.aussiecommunity.com.au/fo...splay.php?f=43

there is also some nifty features with the set the EQ on the fly on a per song or per album bases.

[whitehouse]

Re: No praise here (feedback)

I unchecked the tool tip option, everything was fine. Rebooted, the hourglass returned, and the mp3 info. The box under options remains unchecked! That leaves me with no solution ... While examining the menus, I checked off (3) file associations, then rebooted. Now all the file associations are checked! (this is not a problem, but why?).

DCOM.EXE installed, but I don't see any change. The other update was already installed. Downloaded 7 skins.

When playing files from a playlist, instead of an alphabetical order by artist name, the files list numerically by the center number. All of the "01" files are listed first.

I'm not sure if I am referring to the Volume Normalization function in Music Converter (dMC) ... Open Music Converter, click the Power Pack DSP button, and the slider on the far right is the one that appears to be non-functional. It doesn't raise or lower volume when I run equalization on the file. Instead, I must raise or lower the entire curve (working with one file).

If I could use the player, set the equalization curve and volume, then save an adjusted file (from within the player), the entire process would be quite easy.

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[xoas]

Re: No praise here (feedback)

Open Music Converter, click the Power Pack DSP button, and the slider on the far right is the one that appears to be non-functional. It doesn't raise or lower volume when I run equalization on the file. Instead, I must raise or lower the entire curve (working with one file).

Assuming you already have the graphic EQ as an active DSP then the sliders are the EQ sliders. Although elsewhere the right-most slider is a boost slider (it will increase volume) I do not think that the dsp EQ has a boost function. At best the slider you are referring to will boost the very highest frequencies only. It is also possible, as Razgo has suggested, that that particular slider and perhaps one other may be dummy sliders.
The dsp EQ effects the ripping/recording/conversion of files.
dAP also features EQ for use on playback. This will stay put where you set it until you adjust it again. It does feature a boost function. As Razgo has pointed out it also allows you to assign different EQ settings for different files by individual file, by genre, by album or by artist. However, if you use this auto-EQ function the default EQ setting for any track that does not have an assigned EQ setting is whatever the EQ setting was of the last track played (rather than reverting to a neutral EQ setting). The assigned EQ settings only apply to the files being played through dAP. A track with an assigned EQ for dAP would not carry those EQ settings over if you played the same track in another player (such as WMP or WinAmp).
dAP also features an Auto Volume Normalization function that helps adjust the volume for quieter tracks automatically as needed. The auto volume boost will be set for a file, if you select this, for a track once it has been played all the way through in dAP (after you have asked dAP to adjust the volume). Again, this function will not effect the volume of the file if you play it in another player.

In essence, the dBpowerAMP suite provides you the options to adjust EQ and volume either through dMC's dsp effects (which will effect the file regardless of player) or through dAP, which allows you set these for playback through dAP, or both. Please note that the dMC EQ and the dAP EQ are independent functions. One has no effect on the other.

I tend to get confused by the term "Playlist" because different players seem to use these terms somewhat differently and because I tend to work from dAP's music library (My Music Collection or MMC). If you are talking about the ordering of items within a playlist created within dAP by dAP's Playlist Editor, you can change their order item by item from the Playlist Editor by selecting a track and then clicking on either the up or down buttons below the red X symbol for closing the Playlist editor. You can also right click on a playlist, select Sort and sort the playlist by Artist, by track name, or you can randomly scramble the playlist. If you want to rearrange the order of items lined up to be played as enqueued tracks within MMC you will want to become acquainted with QueMaster, a free app for dAP created by Danny. If you have an issue with the ordering of tracks within MMC I suspect I may need to know a bit more about how you have set tag and filenames for your tracks before I can advise you on the best way to get them into the order you prefer. MMC is very adept at this but if you have been using conflicting methods of tagging and filing your tracks you may have to do a bit of work to get that straightened out.

Hope this has helped clarify what you are seeing and to get things headed where you want them to go.
Best wishes,
Bill

[Craze]

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To clear up any confusion,...
The standard dAP 10 band EQ has no dummy sliders.
The dAP 20 band EQ which is offered only in a few skins and has two dummies.
In my skins, the dummies are sliders #8 & #15 corresponding to 550Hz & 4200Hz.
(Sorry. Not much we can do about this unless we drop back and call it an 18 band EQ).

But as Razgo has stated, it's still one of the best around.
I wouldn't sweat it too much.

[Spoon]

Re: No praise here (feedback)

To clear up any confusion,...
The standard dAP 10 band EQ has no dummy sliders.
The dAP 20 band EQ which is offered only in a few skins and has two dummies.
In my skins, the dummies are sliders #8 & #15 corresponding to 550Hz & 4200Hz.
(Sorry. Not much we can do about this unless we drop back and call it an 18 band EQ).

But as Razgo has stated, it's still one of the best around.
I wouldn't sweat it too much.

The next dAP skin I am creating will have 18 sliders...

>I unchecked the tool tip option, everything was fine. Rebooted, the hourglass returned, and the mp3 info.

Window its self will display that information for mp3 files, if it says dbpoweramp at the bottom of the popup information then it is dbpoweramp, otherwise it is windows.