RE: 'Amazon Fire' as a Music Player?

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: 'Amazon Fire' as a Music Player?

I mean mobile phone or tablet (apple or android).

OK, cheers Mville,

It's an Amazon Fire tablet.

[mville]

Re: 'Amazon Fire' as a Music Player?

When you say 'mobile' device, do you mean a mobile phone, or any hand held music player, please?

Perhaps using the 'dac' to enhance the audio of the Amazon Fire HD8?

I mean mobile phone or tablet (apple or android).

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: 'Amazon Fire' as a Music Player?

Not sure I understand the magically bit, but if you use higher quality DACs in any system the sound quality will improve. It just depends on which DAC you are using.

Again, it depends on the DAC you use.

Mville,

Do you think I could get something adequate for under 100£, please?

Paul

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: 'Amazon Fire' as a Music Player?

I was suggesting looking into a DAC, with a mobile device instead of, not as well as the Sony Walkman.

Hi Mville,

When you say 'mobile' device, do you mean a mobile phone, or any hand held music player, please?

Perhaps using the 'dac' to enhance the audio of the Amazon Fire HD8?

Paul

[mville]

Re: 'Amazon Fire' as a Music Player?

But will such a 'DAC' device actually (magically!) IMPROVE the quality of the sound/audio, please? Or is it a case of: you can't polish a turd?!

Not sure I understand the magically bit, but if you use higher quality DACs in any system the sound quality will improve. It just depends on which DAC you are using.

Secondly - and without wishing to preempt a future thread I plan to post - if you purchase d/l FLAC files of albums which are '24 bit / 196 kHz' (this format does exist for a small hand of iconic albums - I am sure you know), then will the portable headphone amp need to be able to cater for this sample/bit-rate? Or is the device not like a 'soundcard' and therefore much more basic, please?

Again, it depends on the DAC you use.

[mville]

Re: 'Amazon Fire' as a Music Player?

Seems to be the course, a few owners are taking. Obviously you shouldn't be forced down this route, but for owners who use headphones a lot, an improvement in sound quality, along with volume, would be welcome.

I totally agree that this is the best solution, giving a sonic boost. Because it adds, cost and the need to keep another box charged, I didn't suggest it.

Hopefully, Sony can resolve the software restriction, so Paul isn't forced into an additional purchase, but has the free choice, of an upgrade, in the future.

I was suggesting looking into a DAC, with a mobile device instead of, not as well as the Sony Walkman.

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: 'Amazon Fire' as a Music Player?

Have a look on a Sony site, to see what works and is recommended. As usual, players handle external devices differently. Yes, I'm sure it is possible to get an improvement.

Secondly, the first answer applies. I have no experience of what works with the Sony, and what the Sony will pass to an USB external device.

USB aren't all universal, these days!

Thanks Oggy,

I can ask Sony when they get off their back sides and call me!

I am not sure if it's a case of outsourcing, but their call centres are now in Egypt.

I am justifiably reluctant to give them more money, but we will have to see.

Paul

[Oggy]

Re: 'Amazon Fire' as a Music Player?

Hi guys,

Thanks very much indeed for all your helpful suggestions regarding this matter.

No, I had not thought of exploring this particular avenue.

I think it is unfair that customers should have to purchase extra h/w to cure an unnecessary underlying fault, but I can't really see any other way around it.

But will such a 'DAC' device actually (magically!) IMPROVE the quality of the sound/audio, please? Or is it a case of: you can't polish a turd?!

Secondly - and without wishing to preempt a future thread I plan to post - if you purchase d/l FLAC files of albums which are '24 bit / 196 kHz' (this format does exist for a small hand of iconic albums - I am sure you know), then will the portable headphone amp need to be able to cater for this sample/bit-rate? Or is the device not like a 'soundcard' and therefore much more basic, please?

Many thanks,

Paul

Have a look on a Sony site, to see what works and is recommended. As usual, players handle external devices differently. Yes, I'm sure it is possible to get an improvement.

Secondly, the first answer applies. I have no experience of what works with the Sony, and what the Sony will pass to an USB external device.

USB aren't all universal, these days!

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: 'Amazon Fire' as a Music Player?

Hi guys,

Thanks very much indeed for all your helpful suggestions regarding this matter.

No, I had not thought of exploring this particular avenue.

I think it is unfair that customers should have to purchase extra h/w to cure an unnecessary underlying fault, but I can't really see any other way around it.

But will such a 'DAC' device actually (magically!) IMPROVE the quality of the sound/audio, please? Or is it a case of: you can't polish a turd?!

Secondly - and without wishing to preempt a future thread I plan to post - if you purchase d/l FLAC files of albums which are '24 bit / 196 kHz' (this format does exist for a small hand of iconic albums - I am sure you know), then will the portable headphone amp need to be able to cater for this sample/bit-rate? Or is the device not like a 'soundcard' and therefore much more basic, please?

Many thanks,

Paul

[Oggy]

Re: 'Amazon Fire' as a Music Player?

If you want sound quality, have you considered a portable DAC/Headphone amp?

Seems to be the course, a few owners are taking. Obviously you shouldn't be forced down this route, but for owners who use headphones a lot, an improvement in sound quality, along with volume, would be welcome.

I totally agree that this is the best solution, giving a sonic boost. Because it adds, cost and the need to keep another box charged, I didn't suggest it.

Hopefully, Sony can resolve the software restriction, so Paul isn't forced into an additional purchase, but has the free choice, of an upgrade, in the future.

[mville]

Re: 'Amazon Fire' as a Music Player?

I was thinking the same thing with regard to the 'volume' issue. Lots of options for high quality portable headphone amp/dacs.

... and you could use it with a Windows PC and an Apple PC and an apple mobile device and an android mobile device, as long as the device supports audio over USB.

[garym]

Re: 'Amazon Fire' as a Music Player?

If you want sound quality, have you considered a portable DAC/Headphone amp?

I was thinking the same thing with regard to the 'volume' issue. Lots of options for high quality portable headphone amp/dacs.

[mville]

Re: 'Amazon Fire' as a Music Player?

I would doubt the 'Fire HD8' could match the Sony Walkman 'DACs' and circuitry. Which goes back to my earlier point of purchasing a device which has been exclusively designed to handle one specific job ('volume' issue aside).

If you want sound quality, have you considered a portable DAC/Headphone amp?

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: 'Amazon Fire' as a Music Player?

No clue about foobar2000 on fire. I'm using a beta portable foobar2000 app for playback on my iPhone and ipad. For me all the portable stuff is mostly irrelevant. Portable for me is on airplane or Bluetooth in car. For home I'm using networked music streamers connected back to a central music server that holds all my music. I use squeezebox players or some newer Roon RAAT endpoints, feeding non portable DACs.

Gary,

Well if you are happy with it and it all works then congratulations! Stay as you are and no need to change anything.

I am sure I will be at that stage also once this 'volume' issue is resolved, one way or another ...

Thanks,

Paul

[garym]

Re: 'Amazon Fire' as a Music Player?

No clue about foobar2000 on fire. I'm using a beta portable foobar2000 app for playback on my iPhone and ipad. For me all the portable stuff is mostly irrelevant. Portable for me is on airplane or Bluetooth in car. For home I'm using networked music streamers connected back to a central music server that holds all my music. I use squeezebox players or some newer Roon RAAT endpoints, feeding non portable DACs.