RE: 'Amazon Fire' as a Music Player?

[garym]

Re: 'Amazon Fire' as a Music Player?

Exactly, foobar has been excellent for 9 months (in my experience).

Goodness knows how long the prat at Amazon is going t take to get back to me. All I asked him to do was find me a suitable music playing app which will work - without bugs - on a Fire tablet. This was 6 days ago and it has been escalated to the highest level!

foobar2000 has a mobile app that works nicely on my Ipad. Not sure if they plan on an android app.

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: 'Amazon Fire' as a Music Player?

For your work pc I&*8217;d use foobar2000.

Exactly, foobar has been excellent for 9 months (in my experience).

Goodness knows how long the prat at Amazon is going t take to get back to me. All I asked him to do was find me a suitable music playing app which will work - without bugs - on a Fire tablet. This was 6 days ago and it has been escalated to the highest level!

[garym]

Re: 'Amazon Fire' as a Music Player?

For your work pc I&*8217;d use foobar2000.

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: 'Amazon Fire' as a Music Player?

a quick google for "VLC and gapless" indicates a lot of people complaining that VLC doesn't play gapless.

Well it's a FREE d/l so some might say: "why are you complaining!"

I am reluctant to d/l it onto my work PC because last time I did this (18 months back) it added some bloatware, and also changed some of my desktop icons to orange traffic cones! But regarding playback, I am guessing that the same thing will happen on my PC as it did on the Amazon Fire?

I did join the 'VLC' forum last year and posted a polite and genuine question. Then some snotty Moderator jumped down my throat, so I never visited there again!

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: 'Amazon Fire' as a Music Player?

So your test tells me that VLC doesn't deal well with gapless albums. (yes, gapless would be albums with "continuous" play as you indicate. Examples include most live albums, but also albums such as Pink Floyd, Dark Side of the Moon or The Beatles, Abbey Road (side two).

Garym,

Yes, that was what I was meaning. A lot of concept albums (esp. in the '70s) used 'gapless' format. As I say, in 'VLC' on my Amazon Fire, the issues occur every single time without fail.

Paul

[garym]

Re: 'Amazon Fire' as a Music Player?

So your test tells me that VLC doesn't deal well with gapless albums. (yes, gapless would be albums with "continuous" play as you indicate. Examples include most live albums, but also albums such as Pink Floyd, Dark Side of the Moon or The Beatles, Abbey Road (side two).

a quick google for "VLC and gapless" indicates a lot of people complaining that VLC doesn't play gapless.

[garym]

Re: 'Amazon Fire' as a Music Player?

Garym,

All CDs fly like a bird in foobar! In 9 months, I only had one skip which was when Windoze was performing one of it's colossal OS updates/installations.

At the weekend I tried some of the continuous-type CDs (eg. "Miles On The Corner") in foobar and they all played totally fine. And vice versa, I tried CDs with 'gaps' on 'VLC' and they also played fine.

I had not heard of the term 'gapless' before.

Thanks,

Paul

So your test tells me that VLC doesn't deal well with gapless albums. (yes, gapless would be albums with "continuous" play as you indicate. Examples include most live albums, but also albums such as Pink Floyd, Dark Side of the Moon or The Beatles, Abbey Road (side two).

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: 'Amazon Fire' as a Music Player?

Garym,

All CDs fly like a bird in foobar! In 9 months, I only had one skip which was when Windoze was performing one of it's colossal OS updates/installations.

At the weekend I tried some of the continuous-type CDs (eg. "Miles On The Corner") in foobar and they all played totally fine. And vice versa, I tried CDs with 'gaps' on 'VLC' and they also played fine.

I had not heard of the term 'gapless' before.

Thanks,

Paul

[garym]

Re: 'Amazon Fire' as a Music Player?

I assume these albums play just fine using foobar2000. If so, the files are OK. I suspect VLC is not handling gapless very well. Does VLC seem ok when playing albums that are NOT gapless.

p.s. Perhaps it is much improved, but a few years ago I tried VLC and found it to be a terrible music player. I do use it for videos on my computers.

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: 'Amazon Fire' as a Music Player?

Hi,

After 9 months of ripping (and still not finished!), I actually sat down to listen to a substantial amount of music last week using 'VLC' player via my Amazon Fire tablet.

BIG PROBLEM! And I am assuming the issue lies with 'VLC' and not the Fire 'HD8':

If you play an album in which all of the tracks are track-marked, but segue, then the player fumbles at the start/end of each track (sounding akin to a corrupted-file). An example of this is for 'live' concert CDs where the music and applause is continuous . Instead, the smooth transition is ruined by it jumping for 1 or 2 seconds, before resuming normal playing. Another example are studio recordings where different tracks form an overall 'medley'. For instance, "Miles Davis On The Corner" was a 2 sided vinyl in which each side was a 'medley' (so that each song runs into the next track without any gap). Again, the results are the same as the 'live' concert playbacks.

I have phoned Amazon every day since Saturday and they keep telling me they are looking into it...

Cheers,

Paul

[Oggy]

Re: 'Amazon Fire' as a Music Player?

Oggy,

Although I prefer Foobar, VLC is OK at the moment on my Amazon Fire. As my library becomes more complex and complex over time, I dare say my opinion may sway.

I am about 25% through my ripping; but have not ripped a single CD in a week because I have been tidying up my tagging methods (as per previous questions).

Cheers,

Paul

Absolutely fair enough.

Personally, I would be happy to download the APK from Foobar, as a trusted source, but if VLC plays your files OK, then you don't need to make that decision, and take the "risk".

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: 'Amazon Fire' as a Music Player?

All Android devices are the same, where you have the opportunity to accept, third party apps from unknown source. Even on my tablet, which has Google play store, I have a couple, so have taken the "risk,". Obviously you use common sense, which is why I suggested the official Foobar site.

Apps not downloaded through either Amazon or Google, will not be offered updates, though obviously you can download a newer version, the same method.

However, if VLC is giving you what you want, then it makes sense to not take the risk, and VLC does seem to get updates.

Oggy,

Although I prefer Foobar, VLC is OK at the moment on my Amazon Fire. As my library becomes more complex and complex over time, I dare say my opinion may sway.

I am about 25% through my ripping; but have not ripped a single CD in a week because I have been tidying up my tagging methods (as per previous questions).

Cheers,

Paul

[Oggy]

Re: 'Amazon Fire' as a Music Player?

Oggy,

Oh dear, thanks for the warning. I don't think I am going to risk it! VLC seems to be fine for what I need it for.

Cheers,

Paul

Hi Paul,

All Android devices are the same, where you have the opportunity to accept, third party apps from unknown source. Even on my tablet, which has Google play store, I have a couple, so have taken the "risk,". Obviously you use common sense, which is why I suggested the official Foobar site.

Apps not downloaded through either Amazon or Google, will not be offered updates, though obviously you can download a newer version, the same method.

However, if VLC is giving you what you want, then it makes sense to not take the risk, and VLC does seem to get updates.

Regards,

Oggy

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: 'Amazon Fire' as a Music Player?

Hi Paul,

Think that's the wrong app. Try https://www.foobar2000.org/apk

It is possible, but Amazon certainly don't encourage it!

https://www.technipages.com/kindle-f...tall-apk-files

Oggy,

Oh dear, thanks for the warning. I don't think I am going to risk it! VLC seems to be fine for what I need it for.

Cheers,

Paul

[Oggy]

Re: 'Amazon Fire' as a Music Player?

Oggy, Cheers. I will have a look. Though I was told that if an app does not appear in the Amazon App Store than it is not possible. Thanks, Paul

EDIT: Here's the LINK:

http://apk4kindle.com/Download_fooba...on-Kindle.html

Hi Paul,

Think that's the wrong app. Try https://www.foobar2000.org/apk

It is possible, but Amazon certainly don't encourage it!

https://www.technipages.com/kindle-fire-how-to-install-apk-files