Naming Scheme tutorial feedback

**jodawi** · March 31, 2009, 07:48 PM

Re: Naming Scheme tutorial feedback

Is there a limit on length? I tried to make a long string to handle various degenerate cases, and in the one example in the dialog (Madonna*) it looks fine. But on disk the paths created have the various codes mixed in.

(*there really ought to be lots more, and an option to preview all names before converting and flag likely errors from bad tags).

Here's the string:

Code:

[TRIM][IFVALUE][album artist],[UPPER][GRAB]1,1,[TRIM][album artist][][][],[IFVALUE][album],[UPPER][GRAB]1,1,[TRIM][album][][][],[IFVALUE][artist],[UPPER][GRAB]1,1,[TRIM][artist][][][],[ Unknown ][][][][]\[TRIM][IFVALUE][album artist],[MAXLENGTH]30,[TRIM][album artist][][],[IFVALUE][album],[MAXLENGTH]30,[TRIM][album][][],[IFVALUE][artist],[MAXLENGTH]30,[TRIM][artist][][],[ Unknown ][][][][IFVALUE][year],[IF!EQUALS][year],0000, . ([TRIM][MAXLENGTH]4,[year][][])[],[][IFVALUE][album artist],[IFVALUE][album], . [MAXLENGTH]30,[TRIM][album][][],[],[][IFCOMP] . Compilation[][IFVALUE][disc], . disc [disc][IFVALUE][disc_total], of [disc_total],[],[][IFVALUE][track_total], . [track_total] tracks,[][IFVALUE][album artist],,[IFVALUE][album],,[IFVALUE][artist],,[TRIMFIRSTFOLDER][TRIMFIRSTFOLDER][TRIMFIRSTFOLDER][origpath][][][][][][][]\[TRIM][IFVALUE][track],[TRIM][track][],__[] . [IFVALUE][title],[TRIM][MAXLENGTH]30,[title][][],[ Unknown Title ] . [ [origfilename] ] . [unique][][IFVALUE][artist],[IFVALUE][album artist],[IF!EQUALS][artist],[album artist], . ([TRIM][MAXLENGTH]30,[artist][][])[],[IFVALUE][album], . ([TRIM][MAXLENGTH]30,[artist][][]),[][],[][].[extension]

Here's the breakdown:

Code:

### Get first letter, or [ Unknown ], as first directory name

### [ Unknown ]\
### A\
### B\

[TRIM]
    [IFVALUE][album artist],
        [UPPER][GRAB]1,1,[TRIM][album artist][][][]
    ,
        [IFVALUE][album],
            [UPPER][GRAB]1,1,[TRIM][album][][][]
        ,
            [IFVALUE][artist],
                [UPPER][GRAB]1,1,[TRIM][artist][][][]
            ,
                [ Unknown ]
            []
        []
    []
[]

\

### Get next directory name

[TRIM]

### [ Unknown ]\[ Unknown ]
### A\Album Artist
### B\Bummerville Soundtrack
### C\Cool Track Artist

    [IFVALUE][album artist],
        [MAXLENGTH]30,[TRIM][album artist][][]
    ,
        [IFVALUE][album],
            [MAXLENGTH]30,[TRIM][album][][]
        ,
            [IFVALUE][artist],
                [MAXLENGTH]30,[TRIM][artist][][]
            ,
                [ Unknown ]
            []
        []
    []
    
### Add year if there is one

### [ Unknown ]\[ Unknown ]
### [ Unknown ]\[ Unknown ] . (1999)
### A\Album Artist
### A\Album Artist . (1999)
### B\Bummerville Soundtrack
### B\Bummerville Soundtrack . (1999)
### C\Cool Track Artist
### C\Cool Track Artist . (1999)

    [IFVALUE][year],
        [IF!EQUALS][year],0000,
             . ([TRIM][MAXLENGTH]4,[year][][])
        []
    ,
    []

### Add album title, if not added above

### A\Album Artist
### A\Album Artist . (1999)
### A\Album Artist . (1999) Album Title
### A\Album Artist . Album Title

    [IFVALUE][album artist],
        [IFVALUE][album],
             . 
            [MAXLENGTH]30,[TRIM][album][][]
        ,
        []
    ,
    []
    
### Add compilation, if is

### [ Unknown ]\[ Unknown ]
### [ Unknown ]\[ Unknown ] . (1999)
### [ Unknown ]\[ Unknown ] . (1999) . Compilation
### [ Unknown ]\[ Unknown ] . Compilation
### A\Album Artist
### A\Album Artist . (1999)
### A\Album Artist . (1999) Album Title
### A\Album Artist . (1999) Album Title . Compilation
### A\Album Artist . (1999) . Compilation
### A\Album Artist . Album Title
### A\Album Artist . Album Title . Compilation
### A\Album Artist . Compilation
### B\Bummerville Soundtrack
### B\Bummerville Soundtrack . (1999)
### B\Bummerville Soundtrack . (1999) . Compilation
### B\Bummerville Soundtrack . Compilation
### C\Cool Track Artist
### C\Cool Track Artist . (1999)
### C\Cool Track Artist . (1999) . Compilation
### C\Cool Track Artist . Compilation


    [IFCOMP]
         . Compilation
    []

### Add disc info

### [ Unknown ]\[ Unknown ]
### [ Unknown ]\[ Unknown ] . (1999)
### [ Unknown ]\[ Unknown ] . (1999) . Compilation
### [ Unknown ]\[ Unknown ] . Compilation
### A\Album Artist
### A\Album Artist . (1999)
### A\Album Artist . (1999) Album Title
### A\Album Artist . (1999) Album Title . Compilation
### A\Album Artist . (1999) . Compilation
### A\Album Artist . Album Title
### A\Album Artist . Album Title . Compilation
### A\Album Artist . Compilation
### B\Bummerville Soundtrack
### B\Bummerville Soundtrack . (1999)
### B\Bummerville Soundtrack . (1999) . Compilation
### B\Bummerville Soundtrack . Compilation
### C\Cool Track Artist
### C\Cool Track Artist . (1999)
### C\Cool Track Artist . (1999) . Compilation
### C\Cool Track Artist . Compilation

### [ Unknown ]\[ Unknown ] . Disc 1
### [ Unknown ]\[ Unknown ] . (1999) . Disc 1
### [ Unknown ]\[ Unknown ] . (1999) . Compilation . Disc 1
### [ Unknown ]\[ Unknown ] . Compilation . Disc 1
### A\Album Artist . Disc 1
### A\Album Artist . (1999) . Disc 1
### A\Album Artist . (1999) Album Title . Disc 1
### A\Album Artist . (1999) Album Title . Compilation . Disc 1
### A\Album Artist . (1999) . Compilation . Disc 1
### A\Album Artist . Album Title . Disc 1
### A\Album Artist . Album Title . Compilation . Disc 1
### A\Album Artist . Compilation . Disc 1
### B\Bummerville Soundtrack . Disc 1
### B\Bummerville Soundtrack . (1999) . Disc 1
### B\Bummerville Soundtrack . (1999) . Compilation . Disc 1
### B\Bummerville Soundtrack . Compilation . Disc 1
### C\Cool Track Artist . Disc 1
### C\Cool Track Artist . (1999) . Disc 1
### C\Cool Track Artist . (1999) . Compilation . Disc 1
### C\Cool Track Artist . Compilation . Disc 1
### [ Unknown ]\[ Unknown ] . Disc 1
### [ Unknown ]\[ Unknown ] . (1999) . Disc 1
### [ Unknown ]\[ Unknown ] . (1999) . Compilation . Disc 1
### [ Unknown ]\[ Unknown ] . Compilation . Disc 1



    [IFVALUE][disc],
         . disc [disc]
        [IFVALUE][disc_total],
             of [disc_total]
        ,
        []
    ,
    []

    [IFVALUE][track_total],
         . [track_total] tracks
    ,
    []

    [IFVALUE][album artist],
    ,
        [IFVALUE][album],
        ,
            [IFVALUE][artist],
            ,
                [TRIMFIRSTFOLDER][TRIMFIRSTFOLDER][TRIMFIRSTFOLDER][origpath][][][]
            []
        []
    []
[]


\

[TRIM]
    [IFVALUE][track],
        [TRIM]
            [track]
        []
    ,   
        __
    []
     . 
    
    [IFVALUE][title],
        [TRIM]
            [MAXLENGTH]
                30
            ,
                [title]
            []
        []
    ,
        [ Unknown Title ]
         . [ [origfilename] ]
         . [unique]
    []
    
    [IFVALUE][artist],
        [IFVALUE][album artist],
            [IF!EQUALS][artist],[album artist],
                 . ([TRIM][MAXLENGTH]30,[artist][][])
            []
        ,
            [IFVALUE][album],
                 . ([TRIM][MAXLENGTH]30,[artist][][])
            ,
            []
        []
    ,
    []
[]


.[extension]

In the dialog, this string results in:

Code:

M\Madonna . (2003) . Immaculate . disc 1\05 . Holiday.mp3

On disk, I get paths like these (in addition to various crashes in CoreConverter.exe):

Code:

V:\Audio\Converted\[TRIM][IFVALUE]album artist,[UPPER][GRAB]1,1,[TRIM][][][],[IFVALUE]album,[UPPER][GRAB]1,1,[TRIM][][][],[IFVALUE]artist,[UPPER][GRAB]1,1,[TRIM][][][],[ Unk\[TRIM][IFVALUE]track,[TRIM][],__[] . [IFVALUE]title,[TRIM][M. 9807[][IFVALUE]arti.mp3

When converting *.ogg to *.mp3, the above Madonna track converts from this

Code:

G:\Audio\Music\M\Madonna\The Immaculate Collection (1990)\ogg . 01 . Holiday . 241kb.ogg

to this

Code:

V:\Audio\Converted\[TRIM][IFVALUE]album artist,[UPPER][GRAB]1,1,[TRIM][][][],[IFVALUE]album,[UPPER][GRAB]1,1,[TRIM]The Immaculate Collection[][][],[IFVALUE]artist,[UPPER][GR\[TRIM][IFVALUE]track,[TRIM]01[],__[] . [IFVALUE]title,[TRIM]. 9909[][IFVALUE]arti.mp3

Other comments:

I haven't gone through all of the tutorials (and probably won't at this point, just using a simple string instead), but it would be nice if all path problems like spaces at the beginning or ends of filenames or pathnames were automatically taken care of.

**Spoon** · March 31, 2009, 07:56 PM

Re: Naming Scheme tutorial feedback

You are putting the naming string into the dynamic section, rather than the file path (which is limited to 255 chars).

**jodawi** · April 01, 2009, 04:06 AM

Re: Naming Scheme tutorial feedback

Originally posted by Spoon

You are putting the naming string into the dynamic section, rather than the file path (which is limited to 255 chars).

I'm not sure what you mean...

In 'Folder', I have:

Code:

V:\Audio\Converted\

In 'Dynamic', I have the dynamic code.

Windows paths should be limited to 255 chars for each file or directory name, not 255 chars for the entire path name. I have various [MAXLENGTH]s in there to take care of that limit.

Regardless, I don't think any computed path lengths will be over 255 chars total, so I assume the limitation here is that the string of codes is limited to a certain number of chars, which it shouldn't be, since that's something under dBpoweramp's control and not an OS issue.

I tried a shorter string which works:

Code:

G:\Audio\Music\M\Madonna\The Immaculate Collection (1990)\ogg . 01 . Holiday . 241kb.ogg

[TRIM][IFVALUE][album artist],[UPPER][GRAB]1,1,[TRIM][album artist][][][],[IFVALUE][artist],[UPPER][GRAB]1,1,[TRIM][artist][][][],[IFVALUE][album],[UPPER][GRAB]1,1,[TRIM][album][][][],[ Unknown ][][][][]\[TRIM][IFVALUE][album artist],[MAXLENGTH]30,[TRIM][album artist][][],[IFVALUE][artist],[MAXLENGTH]30,[TRIM][artist][][],[IFVALUE][album],[MAXLENGTH]30,[TRIM][album][][],[TRIMFIRSTFOLDER][origpath][][][][][IFVALUE][year], . ([year]),[][TRIM][MAXLENGTH]30,[IFVALUE][album artist],[IFVALUE][album], . [album],[],[IFVALUE][artist],[IFVALUE][album], . [album],[],[][][][][IFMULTI] . disc [disc][][]\[TRIM][track] . [IFVALUE][title],[TRIM][MAXLENGTH]30,[title][][],[ Unknown Title ] . [ [origfilename] ] . [unique][][IFVALUE][artist],[IFVALUE][album artist],[IF!EQUALS][artist],[album artist], . ([TRIM][MAXLENGTH]30,[artist][][])[],[],[][]

V:\Audio\Converted\M\Madonna . (1990). The Immaculate Collection\01 . Holiday.mp3

I can try the individual components (making the code string smaller) and they work individually:

Part 1:

Code:

[Path Part 1]\

[TRIM]
    [IFVALUE][album artist],
        [UPPER][GRAB]1,1,[TRIM][album artist][][][]
    ,
        [IFVALUE][artist],
            [UPPER][GRAB]1,1,[TRIM][artist][][][]
        ,
            [IFVALUE][album],
                [UPPER][GRAB]1,1,[TRIM][album][][][]
            ,
                [ Unknown ]
            []
        []
    []
[]

\[Unique ID [unique]]

becomes

Code:

[Path Part 1]\[TRIM][IFVALUE][album artist],[UPPER][GRAB]1,1,[TRIM][album artist][][][],[IFVALUE][artist],[UPPER][GRAB]1,1,[TRIM][artist][][][],[IFVALUE][album],[UPPER][GRAB]1,1,[TRIM][album][][][],[ Unknown ][][][][]\[Unique ID [unique]]

creating

Code:

V:\Audio\Converted\[Path Part 1]\M\[Unique ID 9924].mp3

Part 2:

Code:

[Path Part 2]\

[TRIM]
    [IFVALUE][album artist],
        [MAXLENGTH]30,[TRIM][album artist][][]
    ,
        [IFVALUE][artist],
            [MAXLENGTH]30,[TRIM][artist][][]
        ,
            [IFVALUE][album],
                [MAXLENGTH]30,[TRIM][album][][]
            ,
                [ Unknown ]
            []
        []
    []
[]

\[Unique ID [unique]]

becomes

Code:

[Path Part 2]\[TRIM][IFVALUE][album artist],[MAXLENGTH]30,[TRIM][album artist][][],[IFVALUE][artist],[MAXLENGTH]30,[TRIM][artist][][],[IFVALUE][album],[MAXLENGTH]30,[TRIM][album][][],[ Unknown ][][][][]\[Unique ID [unique]

creating

Code:

V:\Audio\Converted\[Path Part 2]\Madonna\[Unique ID 9926].mp3

Part 3:

Code:

[Path part 3]\

[TRIM]
    [IFVALUE][year],
        [IF!EQUALS][year],0000,
             . ([TRIM][MAXLENGTH]4,[year][][])
        []
    ,
    []
    [IFVALUE][album artist],
        [IFVALUE][album],
             . 
            [MAXLENGTH]30,[TRIM][album][][]
        ,
        []
    ,
    []
    [IFCOMP]
         . Compilation
    []
    [IFVALUE][disc],
         . disc [disc]
        [IFVALUE][disc_total],
             of [disc_total]
        ,
        []
    ,
    []
    [IFVALUE][track_total],
         . [track_total] tracks
    ,
    []
    [IFVALUE][album artist],
    ,
        [IFVALUE][album],
        ,
            [IFVALUE][artist],
            ,
                [TRIMFIRSTFOLDER][TRIMFIRSTFOLDER][TRIMFIRSTFOLDER][origpath][][][]
            []
        []
    []
[]

\[Unique ID [unique]]

becomes

Code:

[Path part 3]\[TRIM][IFVALUE][year],[IF!EQUALS][year],0000, . ([TRIM][MAXLENGTH]4,[year][][])[],[][IFVALUE][album artist],[IFVALUE][album], . [MAXLENGTH]30,[TRIM][album][][],[],[][IFCOMP] . Compilation[][IFVALUE][disc], . disc [disc][IFVALUE][disc_total], of [disc_total],[],[][IFVALUE][track_total], . [track_total] tracks,[][IFVALUE][album artist],,[IFVALUE][album],,[IFVALUE][artist],,[TRIMFIRSTFOLDER][TRIMFIRSTFOLDER][TRIMFIRSTFOLDER][origpath][][][][][][][]\[Unique ID [unique]]

creating

Code:

V:\Audio\Converted\[Path part 3]\ (1990)\[Unique ID 9927].mp3

(Note the space at the beginning of the (1990) folder - [TRIM] failed to get this, probably because the period got trimmed off too to avoid making the directory look like a system file. It would be very nice if all possible bad file names would be automatically converted to a good file name, with a warning or error logged to indicate the problem.)

Part 4:

Code:

[Path part 4]\

[TRIM]
    [IFVALUE][track],
        [TRIM]
            [track]
        []
    ,
        __
    []
     . 
    [IFVALUE][title],
        [TRIM]
            [MAXLENGTH]
                30
            ,
                [title]
            []
        []
    ,
        [ Unknown Title ]
         . [ [origfilename] ]
         . [unique]
    []
    [IFVALUE][artist],
        [IFVALUE][album artist],
            [IF!EQUALS][artist],[album artist],
                 . ([TRIM][MAXLENGTH]30,[artist][][])
            []
        ,
        []
    ,
    []
[]

becomes

Code:

[Path part 4]\[TRIM][IFVALUE][track],[TRIM][track][],__[] . [IFVALUE][title],[TRIM][MAXLENGTH]30,[title][][],[ Unknown Title ] . [ [origfilename] ] . [unique][][IFVALUE][artist],[IFVALUE][album artist],[IF!EQUALS][artist],[album artist], . ([TRIM][MAXLENGTH]30,[artist][][])[],[],[][]

creating

Code:

V:\Audio\Converted\[Path part 4]\01 . Holiday.mp3

If I combine the pieces in Windows, I get:

Code:

V:\Audio\Converted\M\Madonna\ (1990)\01 . Holiday.mp3

which is less than 255 characters for each part and for the total string. (Also missing the album since I screwed up and left that off.)

If I combine the codes in dBpoweramp, I get:

Code:

V:\Audio\Converted\[TRIM][IFVALUE]album artist,[UPPER][GRAB]1,1,[TRIM][][][],[IFVALUE]artist,[UPPER][GRAB]1,1,[TRIM]Madonna[][][],[IFVALUE]album,[UPPER][GRAB]1,1,[TRIM]The Immacu\The Immaculate Collection (1990)[][][][][][][][TRIM][IFVALUE. 9929[][IFVALUE.mp3

Anyway, I'm switching to a standard simple string.

**chubster** · September 17, 2009, 05:57 PM

Re: Naming Scheme tutorial feedback

Hi

Currently have this in the Dynamic field and all is OK but I am getting results like "Corrs, the"

[IFCOMP][IFVALUE]album artist,[album artist],Various Artists[]\[album][IFMULTI] Disc [disc][]\[track] [artist] - [title][][IF!COMP][IFVALUE]album artist,[album artist],[artist][]\[album]\[artist] - [album][IFMULTI] Disc [disc][] - [track] - [title][]

What do I need to do so that the has a capital T ?

**okofoto** · August 17, 2011, 04:12 PM

Re: Naming Scheme tutorial feedback

Very nice.
But I think I'd like to see a detailed example. This in part because in my setup the album folders are not created and so I end up with two albums by the same artist simply under the artist's name. I thought I was doing something wrong (I assumed that the correct thing would be the default, the way the examples are listed: ...Music\Artist\Album\longsetupname), but I am not sure.

Example.
This is the default:

[IFVALUE]album artist,[album artist],[IFCOMP]Various Artists[][IF!COMP][artist][][]\[album]\[track] [artist] - [title]

This is the default example:

Madonna\Immaculate\05 Madonna - Holiday

This is how it is stored:

Madonna\05 Madonna - Holiday

with the Folder.jpg in the Madona folder; a second album by the same artist will change the picture, of course, and add all the tracks to the same folder...

Note that I do not expect you to solve my problem!

**okofoto** · August 17, 2011, 04:40 PM

Re: Naming Scheme tutorial feedback ps

Figured it out!
The problem was that I was using MultiEncoder and stupidly assumed that the settings would be inherited from the individual settings for the codecs.
That will teach me! And may be others who do not read the instructions properly.

**Ben303** · September 01, 2011, 08:01 PM

Re: Naming Scheme tutorial feedback

is there a way to batch rename metadata in files?

well I already know the answer to that question, yes.

selecting multiple files and then right clicking to edit the ID tag.

HOWEVER what I am after is a way to use wildcard or regular expressions to rename metadata. So for instance, in the BWF description of wave files in a sound fx library, they will have different desriptors - one will have 'ASCEND, HIT, METALIC,' another will have 'GLASS BREAKING, SHATTER, ECHO' etc etc and I want to add a tag at the end to a bunch of files, for instance ', OUTDOORS' - so rename using '*, OUTDOORS' or something similar.

Is this possible?

**Spoon** · September 02, 2011, 08:30 AM

Re: Naming Scheme tutorial feedback

Do not think you can do this.

**dvdr** · September 06, 2011, 04:52 PM

Re: Naming Scheme tutorial feedback

@ Ben 303

MP3Tag (www.mp3tag.de) can do this, it is sort of a swiss army knife for tag-editing. Don't know, whether it accepts BWF-files, though...

In your case, you can define/assign a tag-name for this "descriptor", let's say "sound-description". Then, you will define an action (that also can be stored and called with a mouseclick for recurring editing), in this case it would be "format tag field". Then, you would apply an action to the field "sound-description" and define the action to be "%sound-description%, outdoors".
This will do the following:
1.) it will read the tag-field "sound-description"
2.) it will add the following to the end of the existing values inside tag-field: , outdoors
3.) it will store that altered tag back to the tag-field "sound-description"

MP3Tag is extremely configurable, with tons of programming possible, so best you read their documentation, wiki and forum to see, whether it fits your needs...

**BrodyBoy** · September 12, 2011, 12:51 AM

Re: Naming Scheme tutorial feedback

I'm trying to get a grasp on when tag names used in naming schemes should be bracketed, and when they shouldn't. In just about every case, they're variables that return the actual tags, i.e., ARTIST and [ARTIST] both return whatever is in the "artist" field. (The exception being IFVALUE, which doesn't return the actual tag data, but rather, just a yes or no on whether the field has data.)

So, considering this example, which renames "The Artist" to "Artist, The":

[IFEQUALS]artist,The [DEL]1,4,[artist][],[TRIM][DEL]1,4,[artist][], The[][]

Why is "artist" as the [IFEQUALS] target not bracketed, while "artist" as the [DEL] target is ? In both cases, they represent a variable that returns the contents of the artist tag in exactly the same way.

I'd like to understand the pattern, rather than just know a case or two, so I can apply it correctly whenever I need to.

**Spoon** · September 12, 2011, 07:34 AM

Re: Naming Scheme tutorial feedback

Just an implementation anomaly.

**DVDYMBGC** · January 04, 2012, 11:10 PM

Re: Naming Scheme tutorial feedback

Is there any support to have it create a folder based on which drive it came from? I'd like to be able to set up multiple machines and run different projects on each. If not, this would be immensely helpful in future versions!

Thanks!

**Spoon** · January 05, 2012, 10:46 AM

Re: Naming Scheme tutorial feedback

[SETLEN]1,,,[origpath][]

**DVDYMBGC** · February 09, 2012, 02:27 AM

Re: Naming Scheme tutorial feedback

I am attempting to use [SETLEN]1,,,[origpath][]\[discunique]\[IFVALUE]album artist,[album artist],[IFCOMP]Various Artists[][IF!COMP][artist][][]\[album]\[track] - [title]
It does not seem to create a folder based on the source. Am I missing something?

**Spoon** · February 09, 2012, 09:32 AM

Re: Naming Scheme tutorial feedback

Sorry you are right, origpath does not have the drive letter, I will put a request in for [origdrive] for next beta

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