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  • Z-Lemur

    • Oct 2025
    • 7

    #1

    AccurateRip Pre-emphasis Bug?

    Hi Spoon, I believe there is a bug in AccurateRip for discs ripped with varying pre-emphasis.

    After the last update, my CD with a mix of tracks with and without pre-emphasis ripped perfectly. However, when having AccurateRip scan my collection, this is what comes up:



    The tracks marked as having errors all had pre-emphasis decoded. Ripping log shows the tracks ripped accurately.

    Hope this helps.
    Z-Lemur
  • Spoon
    Administrator
    • Apr 2002
    • 45530

    #2
    R2025-11-12

    Fixed the issue of pre-emphasis being incorrectly applied for mixed pre-emph discs.
    Spoon
    www.dbpoweramp.com

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    • simbun
      dBpoweramp Supporter
      • Apr 2021
      • 219

      #3
      Originally posted by Z-Lemur
      The tracks marked as having errors all had pre-emphasis decoded. Ripping log shows the tracks ripped accurately.
      Surely the decoded tracks won't verify will they, given they're now different to the CD?

      This is one of the reasons I keep a copy of the original PRE/HDCD disc rips

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      • Spoon
        Administrator
        • Apr 2002
        • 45530

        #4
        AccurateRip happens before pre-emphasis, so it would not effect verification.
        Spoon
        www.dbpoweramp.com

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        • simbun
          dBpoweramp Supporter
          • Apr 2021
          • 219

          #5
          Originally posted by Spoon
          AccurateRip happens before pre-emphasis, so it would not effect verification.
          Z-Lemur is verifying post-rip with PerfectTunes.

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          • Spoon
            Administrator
            • Apr 2002
            • 45530

            #6
            Then it would
            Spoon
            www.dbpoweramp.com

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            • simbun
              dBpoweramp Supporter
              • Apr 2021
              • 219

              #7
              Originally posted by Spoon
              Then it would
              fail to verify?

              Unless you're assuming that the following options are set:
              • CD Ripper: CD Ripper Options > Meta Data & ID Tag > Options > Write ID Tags: AccurateRip Result
              • PerfectTunes: Use AccurateRipResult from ID Tag
              In other words, the audio isn't checked just the tags.

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              • Z-Lemur

                • Oct 2025
                • 7

                #8
                Hi All,

                I ripped the disc above with R2025-11-12 and the log says that both the pre-emphasis and non-pre-emphasis tracks ripped accurately. Checking my collection in PerfectTunes, it shows the decoded tracks as having errors.

                I'm curious because I have Pink Floyd's "The Wall" album with pre-emphasis. Decoding that entire album does not show as having errors in PerfectTunes.

                Z-Lemur

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                • Spoon
                  Administrator
                  • Apr 2002
                  • 45530

                  #9
                  Pre-emphasis changes the audio, it will never match to AccurateRip if it has been applied.

                  It is likely the Wall is not have pre-emphasis applied (if the check is to check actual audio data, rather than the stored tag value).
                  Spoon
                  www.dbpoweramp.com

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                  • simbun
                    dBpoweramp Supporter
                    • Apr 2021
                    • 219

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Spoon
                    if the check is to check actual audio data, rather than the stored tag value
                    With regards to relying on the tags, it wouldn't be so bad if PerfectTunes at least performed a decode test, but as it is I can corrupt a FLAC file and the AccurateRip checks still pass.

                    Code:
                    $ flac -t 01.01.flac
                    
                    flac 1.4.3
                    Copyright (C) 2000-2009  Josh Coalson, 2011-2023  Xiph.Org Foundation
                    flac comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.  This is free software, and you are
                    welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions.  Type `flac' for details.
                    
                    01.01.flac: ok
                    
                    
                    $ printf "x01" | dd of="01.01.flac" bs=1 seek=10408448 count=1 conv=notrunc
                    
                    $ flac -t 01.01.flac
                    
                    flac 1.4.3
                    Copyright (C) 2000-2009  Josh Coalson, 2011-2023  Xiph.Org Foundation
                    flac comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.  This is free software, and you are
                    welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions.  Type `flac' for details.
                    
                    01.01.flac: *** Got error code 2:FLAC__STREAM_DECODER_ERROR_STATUS_FRAME_CRC_MISMATCH
                    *** Got error code 0:FLAC__STREAM_DECODER_ERROR_STATUS_LOST_SYNC
                    
                    
                    01.01.flac: ERROR while decoding data
                                state = FLAC__STREAM_DECODER_ABORTED
                    Using the tags is in my opinion a bad default.

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                    • Spoon
                      Administrator
                      • Apr 2002
                      • 45530

                      #11
                      PerfectTUNES has a check on that, part of the scanning process it will highlight corrupted tracks. Clear the database and it will rescan the files.
                      Spoon
                      www.dbpoweramp.com

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                      • simbun
                        dBpoweramp Supporter
                        • Apr 2021
                        • 219

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Spoon
                        PerfectTUNES has a check on that, part of the scanning process it will highlight corrupted tracks. Clear the database and it will rescan the files.
                        I've cleared the database and even reinstalled.

                        The results window states that the album was Accurately Ripped (I would upload an image but "Upload failed. You have exceeded your usergroup's upload quota of 976.6 KB by 364.0 KB." and I can't see a way to remove old images)

                        The Match Details log contains:
                        Pet Shop Boys - Please [AccurateRip DiscIDs: 011-0011aab3-009849df-9909fe0b]
                        Track 1: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 200 [CRC 81295EBA] D:\downloads\Please\01.01.flac
                        Track 2: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 200 [CRC 0F79795D] D:\downloads\Please\01.02.flac
                        Track 3: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 200 [CRC FB6E71C0] D:\downloads\Please\01.03.flac
                        Track 4: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 200 [CRC BC61389B] D:\downloads\Please\01.04.flac
                        Track 5: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 200 [CRC E8AC7B3E] D:\downloads\Please\01.05.flac
                        Track 6: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 200 [CRC 32307A1F] D:\downloads\Please\01.06.flac
                        Track 7: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 200 [CRC 1666DD75] D:\downloads\Please\01.07.flac
                        Track 8: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 200 [CRC E79BC56F] D:\downloads\Please\01.08.flac
                        Track 9: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 200 [CRC 5418F365] D:\downloads\Please\01.09.flac
                        Track 10: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 200 [CRC D4316D62] D:\downloads\Please\01.10.flac
                        Track 11: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 200 [CRC 8ACED420] D:\downloads\Please\01.11.flac
                        CUETools displays the popup message:
                        Exception: frame crc mismatch
                        Am I missing something? I've mentioned this issue before so it's certainly not a new thing.

                        I'm using the latest PerfectTunes on Win 11.

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                        • Spoon
                          Administrator
                          • Apr 2002
                          • 45530

                          #13
                          Upload should be fixed.

                          There is corruption on one of the tracks? (if have dBpoweramp >> select flac >> rc >> convert to >> Test Conversion, it would show if corrupted based on MD5).
                          Spoon
                          www.dbpoweramp.com

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