PerfectTUNES AccurateRip: Different behaviour for wave and FLAC?

[Sandorian]

Hello,

I have bought dBpoweramp (Music Converter & CD Ripper) and use it daily to rip CD's and I always verify them with dBpoweramp's AccurateRip functionality.
Until today, I have always ripped them as wave files. Now, I would like to change my whole music to the FLAC format. Before I converted my files, I have checked them with PerfectTUNES AccurateRip and it told me that all files were accurated ripped (no miracle). Now, after I converted these files to FLAC, I have used PerfectTUNES AccurateRip once again, but now, suddenly PerfectTUNES AccurateRip tells me that some of the albums can not be found in the AccurateRip database, even though I used the FLAC reference encoder including also its verify function to ensure the encoding went properly.

Why did that happen?
Does PerfectTUNES AccurateRip not work properly?
Are there different databases for wave and FLAC files?

This is an important question for me, before I buy PerfectTUNES AccurateRip, I have to be sure that I can rely on it to a hundret percent.

Thank you very much.

[Spoon]

Re: PerfectTUNES AccurateRip: Different behaviour for wave and FLAC?

Make sure you have the wave and flac files seperated and that perfecttunes is not indexing both, as it can combine the wave and flac files together and create a strange album with twice as many tracks.

[Sandorian]

Re: PerfectTUNES AccurateRip: Different behaviour for wave and FLAC?

Thank you very much for your answer.

This is not the case; the only non FLAC files in the folders are the cover pictures. I have deleted them and this did not solve the problem.

[Spoon]

Re: PerfectTUNES AccurateRip: Different behaviour for wave and FLAC?

First try PerfectTUNES beta r1.5 (in the beta section of this forum), it had improvements to AccurateRip.

there is a details button, click it and post the results for an album please.

[Sandorian]

Re: PerfectTUNES AccurateRip: Different behaviour for wave and FLAC?

I have uninstalled PerfectTUNES 1, downloaded and installed PerfectTUNES Beta 1.5, clicked on "Clear Database Cache", deleted the folder and added it again and let PerfectTUNES check it again from the beginning. Unfortunately, the result is the same.
Export for an album (consisting of two CD's) which hasn't been found:

 - 01. Intro- Betteljunge.flac   
  S:\Media\Music\0-Aa\ASP\Zaubererbruder- Der Krabat Liederzyklus\01. Intro- Betteljunge.flac
  S:\Media\Music\0-Aa\ASP\Zaubererbruder- Der Krabat Liederzyklus\01. Abschied.flac
  S:\Media\Music\0-Aa\ASP\Zaubererbruder- Der Krabat Liederzyklus\02. Der Schnitter Tod.flac
  S:\Media\Music\0-Aa\ASP\Zaubererbruder- Der Krabat Liederzyklus\02. Krabat.flac
  S:\Media\Music\0-Aa\ASP\Zaubererbruder- Der Krabat Liederzyklus\03. Die Teufelsmühle.flac
  S:\Media\Music\0-Aa\ASP\Zaubererbruder- Der Krabat Liederzyklus\04. Denn Ich Bin der Meister.flac
  S:\Media\Music\0-Aa\ASP\Zaubererbruder- Der Krabat Liederzyklus\03. Spottlied auf Die Harten Wanderjahre.flac
  S:\Media\Music\0-Aa\ASP\Zaubererbruder- Der Krabat Liederzyklus\04. Zaubererbruder.flac
  S:\Media\Music\0-Aa\ASP\Zaubererbruder- Der Krabat Liederzyklus\05. Fluchtversuch.flac
  S:\Media\Music\0-Aa\ASP\Zaubererbruder- Der Krabat Liederzyklus\05. Der Geheimnisvolle Fremde [Ja, Ja, Drei Mal Hurra!].flac
  S:\Media\Music\0-Aa\ASP\Zaubererbruder- Der Krabat Liederzyklus\07. Zwei Schwäne.flac
  S:\Media\Music\0-Aa\ASP\Zaubererbruder- Der Krabat Liederzyklus\06. Am Ende.flac
  S:\Media\Music\0-Aa\ASP\Zaubererbruder- Der Krabat Liederzyklus\06. Elf und Einer.flac
  S:\Media\Music\0-Aa\ASP\Zaubererbruder- Der Krabat Liederzyklus\07. Mein Herz Erkennt Dich Immer.flac
  S:\Media\Music\0-Aa\ASP\Zaubererbruder- Der Krabat Liederzyklus\08. Verwandlungen I-III.flac

Now the same album with wave files:

ASP - Zaubererbruder: Der Krabat Liederzyklus   [AccurateRip DiscIDs: 008-000CD06D-00584574-630B4D08]
  Track 1: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 9, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC BB97B192]  S:\Media\Music\Z\01. Intro- Betteljunge.wav
  Track 2: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 9, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC CDBC9726]  S:\Media\Music\Z\02. Krabat.wav
  Track 3: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 9, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC B3DCDAF1]  S:\Media\Music\Z\03. Die Teufelsmühle.wav
  Track 4: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 9, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 144F6DA6]  S:\Media\Music\Z\04. Denn Ich Bin der Meister.wav
  Track 5: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 9, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 936012AE]  S:\Media\Music\Z\05. Fluchtversuch.wav
  Track 6: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 9, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 8E734344]  S:\Media\Music\Z\06. Elf und Einer.wav
  Track 7: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 10, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC B8F2E078]  S:\Media\Music\Z\07. Mein Herz Erkennt Dich Immer.wav
  Track 8: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 9, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC CF91EA52]  S:\Media\Music\Z\08. Verwandlungen I-III.wav

ASP - Zaubererbruder: Der Krabat Liederzyklus   [AccurateRip DiscIDs: 007-000ABE40-00408EF5-5C08D307]
  Track 1: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 16, Pressing Offset +6 [ARv2 CRC EE18EF7C]  S:\Media\Music\Z\01. Abschied.wav
  Track 2: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 15, Pressing Offset +6 [ARv2 CRC C072C05E]  S:\Media\Music\Z\02. Der Schnitter Tod.wav
  Track 3: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 15, Pressing Offset +6 [ARv2 CRC 041253F7]  S:\Media\Music\Z\03. Spottlied auf Die Harten Wanderjahre.wav
  Track 4: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 15, Pressing Offset +6 [ARv2 CRC 0D980857]  S:\Media\Music\Z\04. Zaubererbruder.wav
  Track 5: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 15, Pressing Offset +6 [ARv2 CRC 35739F49]  S:\Media\Music\Z\05. Der Geheimnisvolle Fremde [Ja, Ja, Drei Mal Hurra!].wav
  Track 6: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 15, Pressing Offset +6 [ARv2 CRC 3E94C438]  S:\Media\Music\Z\06. Am Ende.wav
  Track 7: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 15, Pressing Offset +6 [ARv2 CRC 96D843F6]  S:\Media\Music\Z\07. Zwei Schwäne.wav

What I haven't said yet is that the new encoded FLAC files do not have any ID3 tags, but these shouldn't be important for AccurateRip, or? Apart from that, the compression rate I used for FLAC was 8 if that plays a role.

Thank you.

[Sandorian]

Re: PerfectTUNES AccurateRip: Different behaviour for wave and FLAC?

I added the ID3 tags and now it displays "Cannot Check: Incomplete Album - 15 Tracks"

ASP - Zaubererbruder- Der Krabat Liederzyklus   
  S:\Media\Music\Z\01. Intro- Betteljunge.flac
  S:\Media\Music\Z\02. Der Schnitter Tod.flac
  S:\Media\Music\Z\02. Krabat.flac
  S:\Media\Music\Z\01. Abschied.flac
  S:\Media\Music\Z\03. Die Teufelsmühle.flac
  S:\Media\Music\Z\03. Spottlied auf Die Harten Wanderjahre.flac
  S:\Media\Music\Z\04. Zaubererbruder.flac
  S:\Media\Music\Z\04. Denn Ich Bin der Meister.flac
  S:\Media\Music\Z\05. Fluchtversuch.flac
  S:\Media\Music\Z\05. Der Geheimnisvolle Fremde [Ja, Ja, Drei Mal Hurra!].flac
  S:\Media\Music\Z\06. Elf und Einer.flac
  S:\Media\Music\Z\06. Am Ende.flac
  S:\Media\Music\Z\07. Zwei Schwäne.flac
  S:\Media\Music\Z\07. Mein Herz Erkennt Dich Immer.flac
  S:\Media\Music\Z\08. Verwandlungen I-III.flac

[Sandorian]

Re: PerfectTUNES AccurateRip: Different behaviour for wave and FLAC?

Okay, I have separated the files into two folders how they actually were on the CD's and it worked out:

ASP - Zaubererbruder- Der Krabat Liederzyklus   [AccurateRip DiscIDs: 008-000CD06D-00584574-630B4D08]
  Track 1: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 9, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC BB97B192]  S:\Media\Music\Z\CD1\01. Intro- Betteljunge.flac
  Track 2: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 9, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC CDBC9726]  S:\Media\Music\Z\CD1\02. Krabat.flac
  Track 3: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 9, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC B3DCDAF1]  S:\Media\Music\Z\CD1\03. Die Teufelsmühle.flac
  Track 4: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 9, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 144F6DA6]  S:\Media\Music\Z\CD1\04. Denn Ich Bin der Meister.flac
  Track 5: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 9, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 936012AE]  S:\Media\Music\Z\CD1\05. Fluchtversuch.flac
  Track 6: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 9, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 8E734344]  S:\Media\Music\Z\CD1\06. Elf und Einer.flac
  Track 7: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 10, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC B8F2E078]  S:\Media\Music\Z\CD1\07. Mein Herz Erkennt Dich Immer.flac
  Track 8: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 9, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC CF91EA52]  S:\Media\Music\Z\CD1\08. Verwandlungen I-III.flac

ASP - Zaubererbruder- Der Krabat Liederzyklus   [AccurateRip DiscIDs: 007-000ABE40-00408EF5-5C08D307]
  Track 1: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 16, Pressing Offset +6 [ARv2 CRC EE18EF7C]  S:\Media\Music\Z\CD2\01. Abschied.flac
  Track 2: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 15, Pressing Offset +6 [ARv2 CRC C072C05E]  S:\Media\Music\Z\CD2\02. Der Schnitter Tod.flac
  Track 3: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 15, Pressing Offset +6 [ARv2 CRC 041253F7]  S:\Media\Music\Z\CD2\03. Spottlied auf Die Harten Wanderjahre.flac
  Track 4: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 15, Pressing Offset +6 [ARv2 CRC 0D980857]  S:\Media\Music\Z\CD2\04. Zaubererbruder.flac
  Track 5: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 15, Pressing Offset +6 [ARv2 CRC 35739F49]  S:\Media\Music\Z\CD2\05. Der Geheimnisvolle Fremde [Ja, Ja, Drei Mal Hurra!].flac
  Track 6: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 15, Pressing Offset +6 [ARv2 CRC 3E94C438]  S:\Media\Music\Z\CD2\06. Am Ende.flac
  Track 7: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 15, Pressing Offset +6 [ARv2 CRC 96D843F6]  S:\Media\Music\Z\CD2\07. Zwei Schwäne.flac

However, this was not neccessary when I used wave files.

I will see whether I also get the other albums to work when I add ID3 tags and spearate if neccessary.

I will let you know if there is still a problem.

Thanks again.

[Spoon]

Re: PerfectTUNES AccurateRip: Different behaviour for wave and FLAC?

Did the wave files have ID Tags?

[Sandorian]

Re: PerfectTUNES AccurateRip: Different behaviour for wave and FLAC?

Yes, I added them with MediaMonkey.
However, adding ID3 tags to the FLAC files did not help.
I had to create two separate folders and split the files between these folders how they actually were on the CD (see my last post "CD1" and "CD2" folder).
This was not neccessary for the wave files. They do have ID3 tags, like the FLAC files, but they are all inside one folder (see the post before the post before my last post).

[Spoon]

Re: PerfectTUNES AccurateRip: Different behaviour for wave and FLAC?

There must be some difference, such as the album name is different for each of the 2 discs (on wave) or there is Disc 1/2 Disc 2/2 tag set.