Albums not in Accurate Rip Database

[warlock983]

I'm just wanting to confirm that for albums that are not found in the Accurate Rip database, the best I can do is a secure rip, correct?

Last night as I was ripping some albums, I came across a band that (apparently) only has 1 album in the Accurate Rip database (which I thought was strange...it wasn't even the most recent one, but whatever). I was able to get a 'secure' rip but the Accurate Rip is just grayed out with (X) AR. Is this the best I can do for albums that aren't found in the Accurate Rip database? Is there any *list* that I could search by artist or something to ensure that it wasn't just a detection error or something like that?

I did a quick search for "Accurate Rip database" but I wasn't able to find a list of 5 million albums or anything...just that it exists somewhere. Below is a clip of the log for one of the albums:

Extraction Log
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Track 1: Ripped LBA 0 to 15981 (3:33) in 0:47. Filename: E:\FLAC Music\Engineer\Crooked Voices\01 Engineer - The Idiot's Theme.flac
Secure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
CRC32: 00296631 AccurateRip CRC: CCEEF3C3 (CRCv2) [DiscID: 010-000d163b-0068c36f-7908410a-1]

Track 2: Ripped LBA 15981 to 30516 (3:13) in 0:37. Filename: E:\FLAC Music\Engineer\Crooked Voices\02 Engineer - Shape Shifting.flac
Secure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
CRC32: A2C463D6 AccurateRip CRC: 625A8775 (CRCv2) [DiscID: 010-000d163b-0068c36f-7908410a-2]

Track 3: Ripped LBA 30516 to 48272 (3:56) in 0:42. Filename: E:\FLAC Music\Engineer\Crooked Voices\03 Engineer - Bruised Blue Collar.flac
Secure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
CRC32: E9C82387 AccurateRip CRC: EFA399ED (CRCv2) [DiscID: 010-000d163b-0068c36f-7908410a-3]

Track 4: Ripped LBA 48272 to 63275 (3:20) in 0:33. Filename: E:\FLAC Music\Engineer\Crooked Voices\04 Engineer - Kid Killer.flac
Secure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
CRC32: F7248877 AccurateRip CRC: 00A6DB0E (CRCv2) [DiscID: 010-000d163b-0068c36f-7908410a-4]

Track 5: Ripped LBA 63275 to 77069 (3:03) in 0:29. Filename: E:\FLAC Music\Engineer\Crooked Voices\05 Engineer - Drunk On Blood.flac
Secure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
CRC32: 704FBD48 AccurateRip CRC: F2D839E3 (CRCv2) [DiscID: 010-000d163b-0068c36f-7908410a-5]

Track 6: Ripped LBA 77069 to 92188 (3:21) in 0:30. Filename: E:\FLAC Music\Engineer\Crooked Voices\06 Engineer - Scavenger.flac
Secure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
CRC32: E03D01EE AccurateRip CRC: DB8816DF (CRCv2) [DiscID: 010-000d163b-0068c36f-7908410a-6]

Track 7: Ripped LBA 92188 to 107149 (3:19) in 0:28. Filename: E:\FLAC Music\Engineer\Crooked Voices\07 Engineer - Curse Of The Common Man.flac
Secure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
CRC32: 3BFCFB11 AccurateRip CRC: A7E9C81C (CRCv2) [DiscID: 010-000d163b-0068c36f-7908410a-7]

Track 8: Ripped LBA 107149 to 122752 (3:28) in 0:28. Filename: E:\FLAC Music\Engineer\Crooked Voices\08 Engineer - Vicious Voice.flac
Secure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
CRC32: C62317DB AccurateRip CRC: C54F33B0 (CRCv2) [DiscID: 010-000d163b-0068c36f-7908410a-8]

Track 9: Ripped LBA 122752 to 141916 (4:15) in 0:33. Filename: E:\FLAC Music\Engineer\Crooked Voices\09 Engineer - Starving Artist.flac
Secure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
CRC32: 99599075 AccurateRip CRC: 3EE21ABC (CRCv2) [DiscID: 010-000d163b-0068c36f-7908410a-9]

Track 10: Ripped LBA 141916 to 158541 (3:41) in 0:27. Filename: E:\FLAC Music\Engineer\Crooked Voices\10 Engineer - Prepared For The Worst.flac
Secure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
CRC32: FB122841 AccurateRip CRC: 10B81DCC (CRCv2) [DiscID: 010-000d163b-0068c36f-7908410a-10]

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10 Tracks Ripped Securely

[garym]

Re: Albums not in Accurate Rip Database

correct, best you can do if not in AR database is secure rip. I don't think you can check directly whether album is listed in database.

[warlock983]

Re: Albums not in Accurate Rip Database

Awesome! Thank you Gary!! Appreciate it!

Just wanted to make sure I didn't get too deep into this just to find out that I have to redo a bunch of work.

[garym]

Re: Albums not in Accurate Rip Database

Awesome! Thank you Gary!! Appreciate it!

Just wanted to make sure I didn't get too deep into this just to find out that I have to redo a bunch of work.

And the nice thing is that one can do AR database comparisons *after the fact*. So if it ever shows up in AR later on, your post rip comparison can show a match. I use the dbpa product PerfectTunes for this. foobar2000 has a utility verification component that will do some version of AR match too, but I think PerfectTunes is better.

[warlock983]

Re: Albums not in Accurate Rip Database

That's sweet! Yeah, I picked up the Poweramp, PerfectTUNES, Image Converter, and Video Converter. I've already made some changes to metadata and album covers in PerfectTUNES. It's super nice and surprisingly (to me anyway) FAST! HAHAHA!! Super stoked on this stuff...happy to finally be digitizing, cataloguing, and working on plans for storage.

I'll have to remember to check periodically through PerfectTUNES on the albums that weren't in the database. They are pretty obscure and now defunct, so I'd be impressed if it ever showed up but if it's quick and easy, there's no harm in checking! The albums were in great shape too...I've tried to keep everything pretty well taken care of...the stuff I got from my brother on the other hand...hahaha 1 hour burst rip, GROSS!

[Spoon]

Re: Albums not in Accurate Rip Database

One thing to remember, your rip will eventually appear in PerfectTUNES, so if the confidence is only 1 in a month or 2 then likely it is your rip and can be discounted.

[garym]

Re: Albums not in Accurate Rip Database

One thing to remember, your rip will eventually appear in PerfectTUNES, so if the confidence is only 1 in a month or 2 then likely it is your rip and can be discounted.

But note that if you get even an AR of 2, that means that another person, with a different copy of the CD, ripping it on a different computer, got the same "bits" as you did in your rip. So an AR of 2 is actually extremely strong evidence that you got a perfect rip. (although do keep in mind that if you rip the same CD twice on different computers and submit to AR both times, obviously both those AR database items are yours).