"FLAC: Audio File Passed Verification" - what about when it doesn't pass?

[Dat Ei]

Re: "FLAC: Audio File Passed Verification" - what about when it doesn't pass?

Is your destination path under control of any media player? Did you try to rip directly to the final filenames?


Dat Ei

[Max Dread]

Re: "FLAC: Audio File Passed Verification" - what about when it doesn't pass?

I think I've had a eureka!

Scrap that :( The same thing is happening today even with Multicore switched off. I thought I had it sussed but obviously not.

I really hope Spoon (or someone) can look into this and help find out why it is happening...

I do get it:

- I'm OCD about my rips
- The files sound fine
- The files show no errors when run through Test Conversion
- I therefore should not worry...

...but...

The "Verify Written Audio" is there to be used. It's there to help with an extra level of security and peace of mind. And in my case, it is doing the opposite and reporting something is wrong. So I'm finding it hard to ignore.

[Jailhouse]

Re: "FLAC: Audio File Passed Verification" - what about when it doesn't pass?

The OCD anal me now wants to re-rip the CDs in question.

Try just one of them and see what you get. But keep in mind what garym said about TEST CONVERSION; you needn't worry.

Reality check = the audio sounds ok.

That's the most important thing. Even if a not-verified track has a minor corruption, if it doesn't exhibit any audible glitches then it might as well be perfect.

I have one known file that did not pass the AccurateRip test. I listened to it three times running, as closely as I have ever listened to anything. No glitches that I could detect, and none when listening to the CD. So I made a note in my records to that effect and stopped worrying about it.

[Max Dread]

Re: "FLAC: Audio File Passed Verification" - what about when it doesn't pass?

I think I've had a eureka!

I was reading through some old notes I took when I first started getting into ripping, and that got me onto the scent of something.... The Multicore option. Even though this was available in R14.4, there was no way of using it when running the Multi-Encoder. So even with it ticked, it was still a case of rip > encode > next track > rip > encode > next track. There was never simultaneous ripping and encoding.

Not so in R16.4, where the Multicore does what it is meant to even when ripping with the Multi-Encoder.

Anyhow, that got me to thinking... So I've just ripped a couple of the same CDs with Multicore unticked and lo and behold, all now have "FLAC: Audio File Passed Verification" in the log. Don't know if that counts as a bug or not? I'm guessing that the problem is only a matter of incorrect reporting and not rips with errors / non-verification. Either way it isn't doing exactly what it should....

passed verification only means that the file is not corrupt. Testing with TEST CONVERSION confirms that the files are not corrupt. So absolutely NOTHING to worry about.

Yes, and I suppose this backs up my guess. The OCD anal me now wants to re-rip the CDs in question. There's only about 8 or 10 of them. But that really would be a waste of time... Wouldn't it? Is there the slightest chance the files have errors somehow? I told you I was a stress-head!

In fact, you can point batch converter at your entire collection and "convert to" Test conversion to check every file you own. That should give you peace of mind. I do that with my backup disks now and then.

Exactly what I was thinking as soon as you explained how to do it. So yes, I think I might give that a go both on my main drive and the back ups.

Cheers for the help

[garym]

Re: "FLAC: Audio File Passed Verification" - what about when it doesn't pass?

Thanks Jailhouse, I appreciate that.

Well...... DAMN! And now I'm starting to wonder how long this has been going on for... As I mentioned above, I don't think R14.4 reported whether the FLACs passed verification. And if I'm right, then this might have been going on for years! I've been happily ripping away thousands of CDs thinking I had all bases covered.

Reality check = the audio sounds ok. And no errors have come up on Test Conversion when I tested those albums. But still, it's a bit of a stress and a worry...

passed verification only means that the file is not corrupt. Testing with TEST CONVERSION confirms that the files are not corrupt. So absolutely NOTHING to worry about. In fact, you can point batch converter at your entire collection and "convert to" Test conversion to check every file you own. That should give you peace of mind. I do that with my backup disks now and then.

[Max Dread]

Re: "FLAC: Audio File Passed Verification" - what about when it doesn't pass?

Thanks Jailhouse, I appreciate that.

Well...... DAMN! And now I'm starting to wonder how long this has been going on for... As I mentioned above, I don't think R14.4 reported whether the FLACs passed verification. And if I'm right, then this might have been going on for years! I've been happily ripping away thousands of CDs thinking I had all bases covered.

Reality check = the audio sounds ok. And no errors have come up on Test Conversion when I tested those albums. But still, it's a bit of a stress and a worry...

[Jailhouse]

Re: "FLAC: Audio File Passed Verification" - what about when it doesn't pass?

I wasn't going to rip anything today, but this thread has me curious.

I've just ripped five CDs; all files are AR-accurate and passed verification. I rip to my D: (data) local mechanical hard drive with the 'rip to "._" file/rename at end' option.

[Max Dread]

Re: "FLAC: Audio File Passed Verification" - what about when it doesn't pass?

don't post them all. Just one CD example that exhibits this outcome.

Oops, too late! Feel free to ignore the rest then. Obviously happy to post anything else that might help. But it will have to be in an hour or so as I'm now off out to face the cold with the dogs

[Max Dread]

Re: "FLAC: Audio File Passed Verification" - what about when it doesn't pass?

Here it be:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Dgfrcb29FXxOdtO6Xf0b2gaTZccazhHJ

[garym]

Re: "FLAC: Audio File Passed Verification" - what about when it doesn't pass?

Well, you can't save them as such. But you can copy the log to clipboard. So I've been doing that and then pasting into notepad docs. I'll put all the notepads into one long notepad and then post a link.



I rip to an internal HDD in the PC (a data disc; separate form the OS HDD). And I rip directly to the final filenames. I toyed with the idea of the other options. In fact, when I first started using DBPA a few years back I think I made a feature request along those lines. But I'm used to my workflow now. And then I saw that those options are not available when using the Multi-Encoder, so I couldn't even if I wanted to.

Thanks so much for all the help.

don't post them all. Just one CD example that exhibits this outcome.

[Max Dread]

Re: "FLAC: Audio File Passed Verification" - what about when it doesn't pass?

Just ripped a CD. All tracks showed as "Audio File Passed Verification"

Do you have the saved log file that shows your rip with some passed and some not mentioned? If so, can you post it here for others to see.

Well, you can't save them as such. But you can copy the log to clipboard. So I've been doing that and then pasting into notepad docs. I'll put all the notepads into one long notepad and then post a link.

Do you rip to a local destination or to a NAS? Do you rip to "._" files, a temporary folder or directly to the final filenames?

I rip to an internal HDD in the PC (a data disc; separate form the OS HDD). And I rip directly to the final filenames. I toyed with the idea of the other options. In fact, when I first started using DBPA a few years back I think I made a feature request along those lines. But I'm used to my workflow now. And then I saw that those options are not available when using the Multi-Encoder, so I couldn't even if I wanted to.

Thanks so much for all the help.

[garym]

Re: "FLAC: Audio File Passed Verification" - what about when it doesn't pass?

Do you rip to a local destination or to a NAS? Do you rip to "._" files, a temporary folder or directly to the final filenames?


Dat Ei

good question for Max. In my case, I rip to a local C:\ drive, and "Rip to '.___' files, rename album at end"

[Dat Ei]

Re: "FLAC: Audio File Passed Verification" - what about when it doesn't pass?

Do you rip to a local destination or to a NAS? Do you rip to "._" files, a temporary folder or directly to the final filenames?


Dat Ei

[garym]

Re: "FLAC: Audio File Passed Verification" - what about when it doesn't pass?

Just ripped a CD to flac. All 14 tracks: Audio File Passed Verification

Just ripped a CD. All tracks showed as "Audio File Passed Verification"

Do you have the saved log file that shows your rip with some passed and some not mentioned? If so, can you post it here for others to see.

[Max Dread]

Re: "FLAC: Audio File Passed Verification" - what about when it doesn't pass?

Just ripped a CD to flac. All 14 tracks: Audio File Passed Verification

Well, that's good and bad news! Good news for you and bad news for me!

I'm hoping Spoon or someone can help here to work out what's going on. I knew this 14->16 transition was going too smoothly :(