"FLAC: Audio File Passed Verification" - what about when it doesn't pass?

[Max Dread]

Re: "FLAC: Audio File Passed Verification" - what about when it doesn't pass?

In my opinion it would be silly to not buy dbpa 16.X and continue using an older version. I'm even surprised you are using the trial and didn't simply purchase the new version. You're not a newbie to dbpa after all.

Not a newbie, but a bit of a stresser who doesn't cope with change too well! So I wanted to make sure I could transition from R14.4 without no problems, and therefore made use of the trial.

Your ripped files pass muster with AccurateRip and test as not corrupted, making this problem more or less cosmetic. I wouldn't hesitate to buy now.

It looks like I answered your uninstall/disable WMP question before you posted it. I apparently have precognition.

Yes, good crystal ball skills I agree that it is most likely a "cosmetic" thing, but nevertheless it would be nice to know for sure. Perhaps Spoon will pop back and help get to the bottom of this. i didn't understand everything from him last post.

As for updates...

- I've uninstalled WMP and it hasn't changed anything.

- Ripping to JUST FLAC (so no Multi Encoder), and to the C drive rather than the usual J drive = virtually all tracks come through with the verification notification. Just one or two didn't (out of quite a few albums).

- Ripping as usual with the Multi Encoder, but changing the location to C instead of J = "the problem" persists.

The other suggestions above I'll try as soon as I get time. We are planning a house move so things are a bit hectic at the moment.

Thanks for all the help.

[Jailhouse]

Re: "FLAC: Audio File Passed Verification" - what about when it doesn't pass?

Your ripped files pass muster with AccurateRip and test as not corrupted, making this problem more or less cosmetic. I wouldn't hesitate to buy now.

It looks like I answered your uninstall/disable WMP question before you posted it. I apparently have precognition.

[garym]

Re: "FLAC: Audio File Passed Verification" - what about when it doesn't pass?

Although saying that, I only have ten days left on the trial and will be reluctant to buy until this is sorted. So I best not hang around for too long!

In my opinion it would be silly to not buy dbpa 16.X and continue using an older version. I'm even surprised you are using the trial and didn't simply purchase the new version. You're not a newbie to dbpa after all.

[Max Dread]

Re: "FLAC: Audio File Passed Verification" - what about when it doesn't pass?

Although saying that, I only have ten days left on the trial and will be reluctant to buy until this is sorted. So I best not hang around for too long!

[Max Dread]

Re: "FLAC: Audio File Passed Verification" - what about when it doesn't pass?

Thanks chaps, I'll follow all of that advice and report back. Might take a bit of time as I have a lot on, but do it I shall.

Quick aside, is there any way to uninstall WMP completely? Or is disabling it as good as it gets?

Really appreciate all the help

[Jailhouse]

Re: "FLAC: Audio File Passed Verification" - what about when it doesn't pass?

The odd thing is that there is either a message that a file passed verification, or nothing. No file-didn't-pass message, as one would expect, or error message stating that the verification attempt failed. I can see why this is disconcerting.

Something seems to be hijacking the verification process. Being that this is happening on a new Win7 installation, I suspect Windows Media Player. If you haven't done so, check its settings and untick anything that lets WMP interact with new music files. Or, if you don't use WMP at all, disable it:

Control Panel > Programs and Features > Turn Windows features on or off > Media Features > Untick Windows Media Player.

[mville]

Re: "FLAC: Audio File Passed Verification" - what about when it doesn't pass?

really hoping we can get to the bottom of this.

Try creating a new profile in CD Ripper, with Rip to = FLAC, Path = C:\, default Naming, no DSPs, the 'rip to "._" file/rename at end' option, etc. i.e. as many default settings as is possible.

Hopefully, you'll rip with all files logging Audio File Verification. Then, edit that profile, one setting at a time, to match your usual ripping profile and try another rip until the verification is not logged. I know this is a bit of a drawn out process, but it is the only way I can think of, to highlight the culprit.

[Max Dread]

Re: "FLAC: Audio File Passed Verification" - what about when it doesn't pass?

Hi all

Sorry for the delay. So, here are a few updates.

Just a guess - I would try to rip to a destination for a test. Maybe it's a access conflict...

I've now tried this. First I tried ripping with the Multi-Encoder to a different location on a different drive. That did not fix it.

Next I tried ripping to that same location/drive, but without the Multi-Encoder (just ripping to FLAC). I thought it had solved it. But as I ran a few more test rips, the problem crept back. So I think it is fair to say that less tracks have the missing notification. But there are still some that do.

What DSPs are you using, if any?

I am using the ReplayGain and ID Tag Processing.

Max (is it okay if I call you that?)

I've been called worse!

I have a hunch: Try setting the 'rip to ._ file and rename after' option instead of ripping directly to the final file name.

You cannot use that with the Multi-Encoder, AFAIK. However, for testing purposes I've put this at the top of the To Do list and will see what happens and report back. It will be a bit later though as I'm off to work shortly.

>The "Verify Written Audio" is there to be used. It's there to help with an extra level of security and peace of mind.

That's why it's stressing me out that I am getting tracks that are not being reported as verified.

This option is more for testing the codec code, not storage, as any re-reading of the written audio will not come from the HDD, it will come from Windows file system memory cache, which will always be 100% correct even if there was a corruption on the HDD....

I don't follow that I'm afraid. Sorry. Can you/anyone explain please?

To check your files, restart your computer fully, then use Batch Converter and convert all the FLAC files to Test Conversion, that is the only way to test for file system corruption.

Yes, I might do that when I get the time, as garym suggested earlier as well. Perhaps overnight tonight. And if everything comes back as fine, then I suppose I wouldn't have anything to worry about. But it still would not answer why not all tracks are being reported as verified in the log.

As a quick side note, what exactly is being compared / verified when you do this? Is it the compressed/encoded FLAC against the uncompressed/decoded FLAC?

Sorry for all the questions, but really hoping we can get to the bottom of this.

Thanks for all the input and support.

[Jailhouse]

Re: "FLAC: Audio File Passed Verification" - what about when it doesn't pass?

Max (is it okay if I call you that?), I have a hunch: Try setting the 'rip to ._ file and rename after' option instead of ripping directly to the final file name.

[Spoon]

Re: "FLAC: Audio File Passed Verification" - what about when it doesn't pass?

>The "Verify Written Audio" is there to be used. It's there to help with an extra level of security and peace of mind.

This option is more for testing the codec code, not storage, as any re-reading of the written audio will not come from the HDD, it will come from Windows file system memory cache, which will always be 100% correct even if there was a corruption on the HDD....

To check your files, restart your computer fully, then use Batch Converter and convert all the FLAC files to Test Conversion, that is the only way to test for file system corruption.

[mville]

Re: "FLAC: Audio File Passed Verification" - what about when it doesn't pass?

The "Verify Written Audio" is there to be used. It's there to help with an extra level of security and peace of mind. And in my case, it is doing the opposite and reporting something is wrong. So I'm finding it hard to ignore.

What DSPs are you using, if any?

[Dat Ei]

Re: "FLAC: Audio File Passed Verification" - what about when it doesn't pass?

Change the ouput path in dBpa to a totally different path, which is not monitored by foobar or any other software.


Dat Ei

[Max Dread]

Re: "FLAC: Audio File Passed Verification" - what about when it doesn't pass?

I don't totally follow you I'm afraid...

Do you mean I should try changing the path/Output To in DBPA so that the rips go to a different folder / drive? And should I leave everything else the same in both DBPA and Foobar?

Cheers

[Dat Ei]

Re: "FLAC: Audio File Passed Verification" - what about when it doesn't pass?

Well, I have Foobar set to so that in the preferences, Under Media Library, my music drive (J) is listed under Music Folders, with a status of "Monitoring". Does that count? Nothing other than that that I'm aware of.

Just a guess - I would try to rip to a destination for a test. Maybe it's a access conflict...


Dat Ei

[Max Dread]

Re: "FLAC: Audio File Passed Verification" - what about when it doesn't pass?

Is your destination path under control of any media player?

Well, I have Foobar set to so that in the preferences, Under Media Library, my music drive (J) is listed under Music Folders, with a status of "Monitoring". Does that count? Nothing other than that that I'm aware of.

This OS (W7) was only installed a couple of weeks ago. The only media player is foobar, and that is set up exactly how it was in my previous OS (XP); including the monitoring of "J".

Did you try to rip directly to the final filenames?

That's all I've tried... And AFAIK it's the only option available when using the Multi-Encoder.

Thanks for the thoughts and help.