Clarifiying needed for ReplayGain (apply)

[McLion]

Hi

I want to apply RG (Album) to my MP3's while ripping to have them all sound the same level.

• The doc says that RG values must be present in the file before using RG (apply). Do I have to add both effects to the actions of the encoder settings or isn't that what "Calculate missing RG values" does in RG (apply) effect?
• If Album Gain is selected this option greyed out and keeps the check state that has been set while Track Gain was selected. Does that mean when I need Album Gain, the RG (apply) does not calculate missing values, meaning that in effect nothing is applied?
• Doc also says: Calculate Missing ReplayGain Values has no meaning for audio conversion and should be unchecked, and I am also not sure what this wants to say or what it means when ripping a CD

Anyhow, while ripping, values are missing anyway, so I am just nor sure what to set to achieve my goal.

TIA
McL

[Spoon]

Re: Clarifiying needed for ReplayGain (apply)

The calculate option can only calculate track gain, as album gain requires all the tracks from the same album, when encoding files are done on their own.

To do this you have to calculate album gain first, this will write to the tags.

Then do the replaygain apply.

[McLion]

Re: Clarifiying needed for ReplayGain (apply)

Spoon, Thanks

I tried .... to no avail.
I use the Multi Encoder, for FLAC with Album/Track RG tags - which works perfect - and for MP3. In Multi Encoder / Encoder Settings for MP3 I have added 2 DSP actions: RG - to calculate Album tags, and RG apply - to apply RG Album tags. I assume that multiple DSP actions run in sequence, so this should work.

However, after ripping I find the RG album tags in the MP3's which tells me that the RG apply DSP effect did not fire.
IMHO it would not make sense to leave the tags in the file after applying because this would lead to double correcting on a player that support RG.

What am I doing wrong?
Thank you guys for your continuous support.
McL

[Spoon]

Re: Clarifiying needed for ReplayGain (apply)

It cannot work in one conversion what ever the order of the DSP effects. You have to do conversion, then 2nd Conversion with the Apply Effect.

[McLion]

Re: Clarifiying needed for ReplayGain (apply)

OK .. Thanks

... and for the life of me I can not find out how to only fire RG apply to a bunch of MP3's in a folder that already carry the RG tag ...

It can not be that hard or extraordinary to achieve what I want, right ... is it just me ?!?

[Spoon]

Re: Clarifiying needed for ReplayGain (apply)

Batch Converter, filter to just mp3 and click list button, add the replaygain album column and sort on that column, uncheck all the other items (shift select them).

[McLion]

Re: Clarifiying needed for ReplayGain (apply)

Does the setting "Drop ReplayGain ID Tags" also apply when using the Batch Converter?
Am I correct that this must be checked when applying RG to MP3's otherwise the Audio would be changed and with tag left in place a double correction would be applied if these MP3's are played on a RG aware player?

[garym]

Re: Clarifiying needed for ReplayGain (apply)

Does the setting "Drop ReplayGain ID Tags" also apply when using the Batch Converter?
Am I correct that this must be checked when applying RG to MP3's otherwise the Audio would be changed and with tag left in place a double correction would be applied if these MP3's are played on a RG aware player?

No. the point with "drop RG tags" is that the converter "drops" the RG tags added when the FLAC files were created when ripping and then does a NEW RG analysis of the mp3 files and adds those RG values to your mp3 file tags.