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  • Gbeer7
    dBpoweramp Enthusiast

    • Mar 2011
    • 165

    PerfectTunes changed confidence rating

    PerfectTunes has changed the confidence on my mono albums. There were 200 accurate now less. Here is an example album......

    Beatles, The - Please Please Me [2009 Mono Remaster]
    Track 1: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 59, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 3572F88C] Z:\Beatles, The [2009 Mono Remaster]\Please Please Me [2009 Mono Remaster]\Beatles, The - 01 - I Saw Her Standing There.flac
    Track 2: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 58, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC E8DE55E6] Z:\Beatles, The [2009 Mono Remaster]\Please Please Me [2009 Mono Remaster]\Beatles, The - 02 - Misery.flac
    Track 3: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 58, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 55007DB6] Z:\Beatles, The [2009 Mono Remaster]\Please Please Me [2009 Mono Remaster]\Beatles, The - 03 - Anna (Go to Him).flac
    Track 4: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 58, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 028EE2E3] Z:\Beatles, The [2009 Mono Remaster]\Please Please Me [2009 Mono Remaster]\Beatles, The - 04 - Chains.flac
    Track 5: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 58, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 01D4B5BD] Z:\Beatles, The [2009 Mono Remaster]\Please Please Me [2009 Mono Remaster]\Beatles, The - 05 - Boys.flac
    Track 6: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 58, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 75BD4024] Z:\Beatles, The [2009 Mono Remaster]\Please Please Me [2009 Mono Remaster]\Beatles, The - 06 - Ask Me Why.flac
    Track 7: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 58, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC E96343B9] Z:\Beatles, The [2009 Mono Remaster]\Please Please Me [2009 Mono Remaster]\Beatles, The - 07 - Please Please Me.flac
    Track 8: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 58, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC F4424E0A] Z:\Beatles, The [2009 Mono Remaster]\Please Please Me [2009 Mono Remaster]\Beatles, The - 08 - Love Me Do.flac
    Track 9: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 58, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 1CA773CE] Z:\Beatles, The [2009 Mono Remaster]\Please Please Me [2009 Mono Remaster]\Beatles, The - 09 - P.S. I Love You.flac
    Track 10: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 58, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 940CB658] Z:\Beatles, The [2009 Mono Remaster]\Please Please Me [2009 Mono Remaster]\Beatles, The - 10 - Baby It's You.flac
    Track 11: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 58, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 0784506A] Z:\Beatles, The [2009 Mono Remaster]\Please Please Me [2009 Mono Remaster]\Beatles, The - 11 - Do You Want to Know a Secret.flac
    Track 12: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 58, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 32641C68] Z:\Beatles, The [2009 Mono Remaster]\Please Please Me [2009 Mono Remaster]\Beatles, The - 12 - A Taste of Honey.flac
    Track 13: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 58, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 0349314D] Z:\Beatles, The [2009 Mono Remaster]\Please Please Me [2009 Mono Remaster]\Beatles, The - 13 - There's a Place.flac
    Track 14: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 58, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 132345A8] Z:\Beatles, The [2009 Mono Remaster]\Please Please Me [2009 Mono Remaster]\Beatles, The - 14 - Twist and Shout.flac

    would that indicate a problem before ? Why the change ?
  • garym
    dBpoweramp Guru

    • Nov 2007
    • 5909

    #2
    Re: PerfectTunes changed confidence rating

    I just ran PerfectTunes on my same disk. As you can see this is identical to what you just got.
    \=====================
    The Beatles - Please Please Me (Mono)
    Track 1: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 59, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 3572F88C] E:\All Music Files\FLAC\The Beatles\Please Please Me (Mono)\Disc 1\01-I Saw Her Standing There.flac
    Track 2: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 58, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC E8DE55E6] E:\All Music Files\FLAC\The Beatles\Please Please Me (Mono)\Disc 1\02-Misery.flac
    Track 3: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 58, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 55007DB6] E:\All Music Files\FLAC\The Beatles\Please Please Me (Mono)\Disc 1\03-Anna (Go to Him).flac
    Track 4: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 58, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 028EE2E3] E:\All Music Files\FLAC\The Beatles\Please Please Me (Mono)\Disc 1\04-Chains.flac
    Track 5: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 58, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 01D4B5BD] E:\All Music Files\FLAC\The Beatles\Please Please Me (Mono)\Disc 1\05-Boys.flac
    Track 6: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 58, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 75BD4024] E:\All Music Files\FLAC\The Beatles\Please Please Me (Mono)\Disc 1\06-Ask Me Why.flac
    Track 7: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 58, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC E96343B9] E:\All Music Files\FLAC\The Beatles\Please Please Me (Mono)\Disc 1\07-Please Please Me.flac
    Track 8: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 58, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC F4424E0A] E:\All Music Files\FLAC\The Beatles\Please Please Me (Mono)\Disc 1\08-Love Me Do.flac
    Track 9: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 58, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 1CA773CE] E:\All Music Files\FLAC\The Beatles\Please Please Me (Mono)\Disc 1\09-P.S. I Love You.flac
    Track 10: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 58, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 940CB658] E:\All Music Files\FLAC\The Beatles\Please Please Me (Mono)\Disc 1\10-Baby It's You.flac
    Track 11: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 58, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 0784506A] E:\All Music Files\FLAC\The Beatles\Please Please Me (Mono)\Disc 1\11-Do You Want to Know a Secret.flac
    Track 12: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 58, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 32641C68] E:\All Music Files\FLAC\The Beatles\Please Please Me (Mono)\Disc 1\12-A Taste of Honey.flac
    Track 13: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 58, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 0349314D] E:\All Music Files\FLAC\The Beatles\Please Please Me (Mono)\Disc 1\13-There's a Place.flac
    Track 14: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 58, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 132345A8] E:\All Music Files\FLAC\The Beatles\Please Please Me (Mono)\Disc 1\14-Twist and Shout.flac
    ===============================

    And this is from my original ripping log:

    rack 1: Ripped LBA 0 to 13351 (2:58) in 0:23. Filename: C:\TempFlacFiles\The Beatles\Please Please Me (Mono)\01-I Saw Her Standing There.flac
    AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 51) [Pass 1]
    CRC32: 45D99B83 AccurateRip CRC: 3572F88C (CRCv2) [DiscID: 014-0011ace7-00bab9bb-a907cd0e-1]
    AccurateRip Verified Confidence 51 [CRCv2 3572f88c]
    AccurateRip Verified Confidence 200 [CRCv1 22c28b0a]
    AccurateRip Verified Confidence 4 [CRCv1 ed02088d], Using Pressing Offset -30
    AccurateRip Verified Confidence 2 [CRCv2 ed79bb64], Using Pressing Offset -664

    Track 2: Ripped LBA 13351 to 21805 (1:52) in 0:10. Filename: C:\TempFlacFiles\The Beatles\Please Please Me (Mono)\02-Misery.flac
    AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 50) [Pass 1]
    CRC32: CE637D25 AccurateRip CRC: E8DE55E6 (CRCv2) [DiscID: 014-0011ace7-00bab9bb-a907cd0e-2]
    AccurateRip Verified Confidence 50 [CRCv2 e8de55e6]
    AccurateRip Verified Confidence 200 [CRCv1 e56b9b76]
    AccurateRip Verified Confidence 4 [CRCv1 fc1546a], Using Pressing Offset -30
    AccurateRip Verified Confidence 2 [CRCv2 e682b911], Using Pressing Offset -664

    Track 3: Ripped LBA 21805 to 35339 (3:00) in 0:16. Filename: C:\TempFlacFiles\The Beatles\Please Please Me (Mono)\03-Anna (Go to Him).flac
    AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 50) [Pass 1]
    CRC32: 7694D3A1 AccurateRip CRC: 55007DB6 (CRCv2) [DiscID: 014-0011ace7-00bab9bb-a907cd0e-3]
    AccurateRip Verified Confidence 50 [CRCv2 55007db6]
    AccurateRip Verified Confidence 200 [CRCv1 5183f6f1]
    AccurateRip Verified Confidence 4 [CRCv1 2495f6c1], Using Pressing Offset -30
    AccurateRip Verified Confidence 2 [CRCv2 940c7d1b], Using Pressing Offset -664

    Track 4: Ripped LBA 35339 to 46494 (2:28) in 0:12. Filename: C:\TempFlacFiles\The Beatles\Please Please Me (Mono)\04-Chains.flac
    AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 50) [Pass 1]
    CRC32: 0ABA09D6 AccurateRip CRC: 028EE2E3 (CRCv2) [DiscID: 014-0011ace7-00bab9bb-a907cd0e-4]
    AccurateRip Verified Confidence 50 [CRCv2 28ee2e3]
    AccurateRip Verified Confidence 200 [CRCv1 89bd52fd]
    AccurateRip Verified Confidence 4 [CRCv1 807a5735], Using Pressing Offset -30
    AccurateRip Verified Confidence 2 [CRCv2 1f405482], Using Pressing Offset -664

    Track 5: Ripped LBA 46494 to 57699 (2:29) in 0:11. Filename: C:\TempFlacFiles\The Beatles\Please Please Me (Mono)\05-Boys.flac
    AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 50) [Pass 1]
    CRC32: 1546DC99 AccurateRip CRC: 01D4B5BD (CRCv2) [DiscID: 014-0011ace7-00bab9bb-a907cd0e-5]
    AccurateRip Verified Confidence 50 [CRCv2 1d4b5bd]
    AccurateRip Verified Confidence 200 [CRCv1 66b3b06b]
    AccurateRip Verified Confidence 4 [CRCv1 cb906de3], Using Pressing Offset -30
    AccurateRip Verified Confidence 2 [CRCv2 37496861], Using Pressing Offset -664

    Track 6: Ripped LBA 57699 to 68930 (2:29) in 0:11. Filename: C:\TempFlacFiles\The Beatles\Please Please Me (Mono)\06-Ask Me Why.flac
    AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 50) [Pass 1]
    CRC32: B774A303 AccurateRip CRC: 75BD4024 (CRCv2) [DiscID: 014-0011ace7-00bab9bb-a907cd0e-6]
    AccurateRip Verified Confidence 50 [CRCv2 75bd4024]
    AccurateRip Verified Confidence 200 [CRCv1 516dfad3]
    AccurateRip Verified Confidence 4 [CRCv1 c03a04dd], Using Pressing Offset -30
    AccurateRip Verified Confidence 2 [CRCv2 34972f51], Using Pressing Offset -664

    Track 7: Ripped LBA 68930 to 78359 (2:05) in 0:09. Filename: C:\TempFlacFiles\The Beatles\Please Please Me (Mono)\07-Please Please Me.flac
    AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 50) [Pass 1]
    CRC32: 56B4EEA5 AccurateRip CRC: E96343B9 (CRCv2) [DiscID: 014-0011ace7-00bab9bb-a907cd0e-7]
    AccurateRip Verified Confidence 50 [CRCv2 e96343b9]
    AccurateRip Verified Confidence 200 [CRCv1 b463b351]
    AccurateRip Verified Confidence 3 [CRCv1 ef7c8be6], Using Pressing Offset -30
    AccurateRip Verified Confidence 2 [CRCv2 9f77e5a2], Using Pressing Offset -664

    Track 8: Ripped LBA 78359 to 89196 (2:24) in 0:10. Filename: C:\TempFlacFiles\The Beatles\Please Please Me (Mono)\08-Love Me Do.flac
    AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 50) [Pass 1]
    CRC32: 72290693 AccurateRip CRC: F4424E0A (CRCv2) [DiscID: 014-0011ace7-00bab9bb-a907cd0e-8]
    AccurateRip Verified Confidence 50 [CRCv2 f4424e0a]
    AccurateRip Verified Confidence 200 [CRCv1 ebd91a79]
    AccurateRip Verified Confidence 3 [CRCv1 9667e0e2], Using Pressing Offset -30

    Track 9: Ripped LBA 89196 to 98783 (2:07) in 0:08. Filename: C:\TempFlacFiles\The Beatles\Please Please Me (Mono)\09-P.S. I Love You.flac
    AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 50) [Pass 1]
    CRC32: CE8B7616 AccurateRip CRC: 1CA773CE (CRCv2) [DiscID: 014-0011ace7-00bab9bb-a907cd0e-9]
    AccurateRip Verified Confidence 50 [CRCv2 1ca773ce]
    AccurateRip Verified Confidence 200 [CRCv1 9421021c]
    AccurateRip Verified Confidence 3 [CRCv1 d98a93a1], Using Pressing Offset -30

    Track 10: Ripped LBA 98783 to 110962 (2:42) in 0:10. Filename: C:\TempFlacFiles\The Beatles\Please Please Me (Mono)\10-Baby It's You.flac
    AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 50) [Pass 1]
    CRC32: 453A5A66 AccurateRip CRC: 940CB658 (CRCv2) [DiscID: 014-0011ace7-00bab9bb-a907cd0e-10]
    AccurateRip Verified Confidence 50 [CRCv2 940cb658]
    AccurateRip Verified Confidence 200 [CRCv1 e8e86ac4]
    AccurateRip Verified Confidence 3 [CRCv1 32ad8070], Using Pressing Offset -30

    Track 11: Ripped LBA 110962 to 120054 (2:01) in 0:07. Filename: C:\TempFlacFiles\The Beatles\Please Please Me (Mono)\11-Do You Want to Know a Secret.flac
    AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 50) [Pass 1]
    CRC32: 1AB64623 AccurateRip CRC: 0784506A (CRCv2) [DiscID: 014-0011ace7-00bab9bb-a907cd0e-11]
    AccurateRip Verified Confidence 50 [CRCv2 784506a]
    AccurateRip Verified Confidence 200 [CRCv1 30bfbaa6]
    AccurateRip Verified Confidence 3 [CRCv1 7769afb2], Using Pressing Offset -30

    Track 12: Ripped LBA 120054 to 129531 (2:06) in 0:07. Filename: C:\TempFlacFiles\The Beatles\Please Please Me (Mono)\12-A Taste of Honey.flac
    AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 50) [Pass 1]
    CRC32: 9A83FEBB AccurateRip CRC: 32641C68 (CRCv2) [DiscID: 014-0011ace7-00bab9bb-a907cd0e-12]
    AccurateRip Verified Confidence 50 [CRCv2 32641c68]
    AccurateRip Verified Confidence 200 [CRCv1 d00d4d1c]
    AccurateRip Verified Confidence 3 [CRCv1 936309b8], Using Pressing Offset -30

    Track 13: Ripped LBA 129531 to 138084 (1:54) in 0:07. Filename: C:\TempFlacFiles\The Beatles\Please Please Me (Mono)\13-There's a Place.flac
    AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 50) [Pass 1]
    CRC32: 444015D6 AccurateRip CRC: 0349314D (CRCv2) [DiscID: 014-0011ace7-00bab9bb-a907cd0e-13]
    AccurateRip Verified Confidence 50 [CRCv2 349314d]
    AccurateRip Verified Confidence 200 [CRCv1 d99b5797]
    AccurateRip Verified Confidence 3 [CRCv1 a9a83422], Using Pressing Offset -30

    Track 14: Ripped LBA 138084 to 149788 (2:36) in 0:09. Filename: C:\TempFlacFiles\The Beatles\Please Please Me (Mono)\14-Twist and Shout.flac
    AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 50) [Pass 1]
    CRC32: 6697327A AccurateRip CRC: 132345A8 (CRCv2) [DiscID: 014-0011ace7-00bab9bb-a907cd0e-14]
    AccurateRip Verified Confidence 50 [CRCv2 132345a8]
    AccurateRip Verified Confidence 200 [CRCv1 d7fffdb8]
    AccurateRip Verified Confidence 3 [CRCv1 ecd58781], Using Pressing Offset -30

    ============================================

    bottom line: my rips were as likely perfect as possible when ripped and perfectTunes also confirms the same thing (although with a bit simpler log output). YOUR RIPS ARE PERFECT. The odds of us both having the same ripping results (and that those match 58 other people) and we have errors is simply off the chart. I am more likely to wake up in the morning and discover I am 200 feet tall, have grown wings, and I'm in charge of a tribe of aliens living on the planet mars.
    Last edited by garym; July 06, 2012, 09:19 PM.

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    • Gbeer7
      dBpoweramp Enthusiast

      • Mar 2011
      • 165

      #3
      Re: PerfectTunes changed confidence rating

      Thank you garym. Interesting to see your log show one of the results as 200. Was that your original accurate result, 200. For my own piece of mind, could I send my complete mono album log to you? Would be most grateful.

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      • garym
        dBpoweramp Guru

        • Nov 2007
        • 5909

        #4
        Re: PerfectTunes changed confidence rating

        yes this was my original (only) ripping log. you can see above that some of the AR results had the 200 matches but most of mine were 50. A bit confusing to read, but I don't pay that much attention. Accurate beyond 2 for me is all I need to see. I'm not sure why posting your log for this album would help any further, but feel free.

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        • Gbeer7
          dBpoweramp Enthusiast

          • Mar 2011
          • 165

          #5
          Re: PerfectTunes changed confidence rating

          I don't have my original logs :( bit worried mine were 200 to start with, now changed? How would this have happened and why?
          What I meant garym was that I send you my log off all my Beatles mono albums and check against your log from perfectTunes for your mono boxset. Could we ?
          So if a result came back as 2, your happy?

          Also, why the two different results for crcv1? Could that be "bad rips"?

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          • garym
            dBpoweramp Guru

            • Nov 2007
            • 5909

            #6
            Re: PerfectTunes changed confidence rating

            Originally posted by Gbeer7
            I don't have my original logs :( bit worried mine were 200 to start with, now changed? How would this have happened and why?
            What I meant garym was that I send you my log off all my Beatles mono albums and check against your log from perfectTunes for your mono boxset. Could we ?
            So if a result came back as 2, your happy?

            Also, why the two different results for crcv1? Could that be "bad rips"?
            re the results for crcv1, No these are NOT bad rips. No need to send me your logs. This would be silly. Why check against my log, when you can check against 50 or more people's logs automatically!!!!! You have the files. Run PerfectTunes against those files. If PerfectTunes tells you they are all accuraterip OK then your rips are good--end of story (and for me anything at a confidence of 2 or more is all I need to be happy).

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            • garym
              dBpoweramp Guru

              • Nov 2007
              • 5909

              #7
              Re: PerfectTunes changed confidence rating

              and as fanatical as you are about these things, going forward, I recommend setting dbpa to output full information logs in the settings, and to automatically save those logs in the same directory as the album tracks. Then you'll always have your original logs.

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              • Porcus
                dBpoweramp Guru

                • Feb 2007
                • 792

                #8
                Re: PerfectTunes changed confidence rating

                Originally posted by Gbeer7
                I don't have my original logs :( bit worried mine were 200 to start with, now changed? How would this have happened and why?
                Because PerfectTUNES only reports to you the matches in version 2 of AccurateRip ("ARv2"). They are fewer.
                PerfectTUNES is _beta_ software, and shouldn't be expected to have all features yet.



                Originally posted by Gbeer7
                Also, why the two different results for crcv1?
                The one with offset -30, you mean? I'd suggest you look in earlier threads you have participated in. Short: they are additional matches to a different pressing, where the difference is that the bitstream is moved 30 samples to the left or right.

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                • Gbeer7
                  dBpoweramp Enthusiast

                  • Mar 2011
                  • 165

                  #9
                  Re: PerfectTunes changed confidence rating

                  Thank you porcus, that helps explain why the results were less. Was stressing about that. So I'm all good and no need to rerip the CDs?

                  So the 3 people with the offset result -30, could those be bad rips which was raised in the previous post?

                  I have since turned logging on, when I started I was a dbpa novice. No need to rerip for those logs?

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                  • Spoon
                    Administrator
                    • Apr 2002
                    • 44593

                    #10
                    Re: PerfectTunes changed confidence rating

                    No, pressing offsets are where the record label makes another batch of CDs for the shop (could be 2 years later after first batch), each batch has an inbuilt pressing offset, it happens on every cd.
                    Spoon
                    www.dbpoweramp.com

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                    • Gbeer7
                      dBpoweramp Enthusiast

                      • Mar 2011
                      • 165

                      #11
                      Re: PerfectTunes changed confidence rating

                      Ok spoon, so when someone posted about "bad rips" getting in the database, what do they mean? Was it not reading another crcv1 or crcv2 table ?

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                      • Spoon
                        Administrator
                        • Apr 2002
                        • 44593

                        #12
                        Re: PerfectTunes changed confidence rating

                        It is not related to crcv1, crcv2 or pressing offsets, instead it is where the drive suddenly reads with a different offset, even so technically there is no real data error, all that is happening is the data is shifted by a offset.
                        Spoon
                        www.dbpoweramp.com

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                        • Gbeer7
                          dBpoweramp Enthusiast

                          • Mar 2011
                          • 165

                          #13
                          Re: PerfectTunes changed confidence rating

                          So there really wasn't an issue with that guys rips ?

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                          • garym
                            dBpoweramp Guru

                            • Nov 2007
                            • 5909

                            #14
                            Re: PerfectTunes changed confidence rating

                            Originally posted by Gbeer7
                            So there really wasn't an issue with that guys rips ?
                            forget about that guy's rips. Go listen to some music. ;-)

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                            • Porcus
                              dBpoweramp Guru

                              • Feb 2007
                              • 792

                              #15
                              Re: PerfectTunes changed confidence rating

                              If you didn't keep logs, then look for the ACCURATERIPRESULT tag. (Provided that was written ... I only know my setup.)

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