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  • pradig

    • Aug 2009
    • 12

    Ripping Speed slows down when C2 enabled

    I have a brandnew Plextor PX-860A. Testing shows that it support C2 and FUA and no cache.

    With C2 and FUA disable a disk takes approximately 6 min with all tracks ripped accurately.

    With C2 and FUA enable the same disk takes around 13 min with all tracks accurate, too.

    Is that supposed to happen?
  • Spoon
    Administrator
    • Apr 2002
    • 44515

    #2
    Re: Ripping Speed slows down when C2 enabled

    No, how does the drive connect to the system?
    Spoon
    www.dbpoweramp.com

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    • pradig

      • Aug 2009
      • 12

      #3
      Re: Ripping Speed slows down when C2 enabled

      IDE directly to the mainboard. No other IDE device on that bus.

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      • Spoon
        Administrator
        • Apr 2002
        • 44515

        #4
        Re: Ripping Speed slows down when C2 enabled

        Try eac using c2 switched on, what is the speed like?
        Spoon
        www.dbpoweramp.com

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        • pradig

          • Aug 2009
          • 12

          #5
          Re: Ripping Speed slows down when C2 enabled

          All done with the same disc:

          dBPa, C2 on, FUA on: 13:20
          dbPa, C2 off, FUA off: 5:30

          EAC, C2 on: 7:08
          EAC, C2 off: 10:30

          All tracks are ripped "accurate".

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          • Tigerman
            dBpoweramp Enthusiast

            • Mar 2005
            • 157

            #6
            Re: Ripping Speed slows down when C2 enabled

            It would be nice if you also tried

            dBPa, C2 on, FUA off

            From the data till now, I get the impression that c2 works, but FUA not.

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            • pradig

              • Aug 2009
              • 12

              #7
              Re: Ripping Speed slows down when C2 enabled

              C2 on and FUA off takes about the same as with both on.

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              • Spoon
                Administrator
                • Apr 2002
                • 44515

                #8
                Re: Ripping Speed slows down when C2 enabled

                Try the R13.3 beta (in the beta section of this forum), it has a new switch for lower message sizes when using c2, but normally only USB or firewire is effected by this).
                Spoon
                www.dbpoweramp.com

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                • pradig

                  • Aug 2009
                  • 12

                  #9
                  Re: Ripping Speed slows down when C2 enabled

                  It doesn't make a difference, > 13 min ripping time.

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                  • Spoon
                    Administrator
                    • Apr 2002
                    • 44515

                    #10
                    Re: Ripping Speed slows down when C2 enabled

                    How many passes does it take when ripping?
                    Spoon
                    www.dbpoweramp.com

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                    • bhoar
                      dBpoweramp Guru

                      • Sep 2006
                      • 1173

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Spoon
                      How many passes does it take when ripping?
                      I wonder if it's ping-ponging between READ CD and READ CD MSF (IIRC, my scsi logging showed you would autofail over to the other read command on errors).

                      Perhaps the C2 flag only works with one command and not the other on some Plextor drives?

                      -brendan

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                      • Spoon
                        Administrator
                        • Apr 2002
                        • 44515

                        #12
                        Re: Ripping Speed slows down when C2 enabled

                        If it fails onto a 2nd method the next call uses that method.
                        Spoon
                        www.dbpoweramp.com

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                        • bhoar
                          dBpoweramp Guru

                          • Sep 2006
                          • 1173

                          #13
                          Re: Ripping Speed slows down when C2 enabled

                          Originally posted by Spoon
                          If it fails onto a 2nd method the next call uses that method.
                          Hmm, perhaps another deeper layer of debug could be introduced that would trace the read calls and responses sans data. And perhaps another level with the data too (logged to a very very very large text file).

                          -brendan

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