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  • digit

    • Dec 2008
    • 4

    EAC/dbpoweramp different wave file size

    Wave files created by EAC with accuraterip are always 10-20KB smaller than the same wave files created by dbpoweramp reference with accuraterip. Both software modules confirm an accurate rip.
    Anyone knows the reason for the different size ?
  • bhoar
    dBpoweramp Guru

    • Sep 2006
    • 1173

    #2
    Re: EAC/dbpoweramp different wave file size

    Originally posted by digit
    Wave files created by EAC with accuraterip are always 10-20KB smaller than the same wave files created by dbpoweramp reference with accuraterip. Both software modules confirm an accurate rip.
    Anyone knows the reason for the different size ?
    Presumably RIFF chunks containing (or containing room for future) metadata or header information. Spoon would know specifically.

    -brendan

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    • Spoon
      Administrator
      • Apr 2002
      • 44511

      #3
      Re: EAC/dbpoweramp different wave file size

      Yes we write ID Tags to the wave files (perfectly valid and allowed). This can be disabled under 'dBpoweramp Configuration >> Codecs >> Adavanced' if you wish.
      Spoon
      www.dbpoweramp.com

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      • llumy

        • Dec 2008
        • 9

        #4
        Re: EAC/dbpoweramp different wave file size

        OK - sorry for the noob question, but I previously ripped all my CD's (just over 700 so not trivial, and I know many people have more) in Wave using iTunes and my issue was lack of full tag support. Does Dbpoweramp write something to the wave file that other programs will read?

        In my perfect world - I can make 100% exact copies of my CDs and pull in full tag info (including pictures), that I can play and covert to other formats (as needed) with out re-ripping all my CDs.

        By this I mean "Perfect reproduction of the CD" with all associated information convertible on demand (in batch) with full tag info traveling with the conversion.

        Thanks (and looking to learn)!

        Happy Holidays!
        Llumy

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        • Spoon
          Administrator
          • Apr 2002
          • 44511

          #5
          Re: EAC/dbpoweramp different wave file size

          We write tags to wav files, but not much will read them.
          Spoon
          www.dbpoweramp.com

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          • Tigerman
            dBpoweramp Enthusiast

            • Mar 2005
            • 157

            #6
            Re: EAC/dbpoweramp different wave file size

            I tried to disable the wav id tagging.
            But every time the options gets reset.

            I changed (under Wave ID Tagging) Tag Creation to none and clicked ok.
            After reopening the configuration, it's back to (default - LIST & ID3)

            I also tried Tag Creation to none and under Encoder Options/Wave Encoder:
            Write Extensible Header to Never.
            Both are reset to the default value after clicking on OK and reopening configuration.

            Code:
            dBpoweramp Music Converter
            Release 13.1
            Registration Status
            Reference: Registered
            AMG, GD3 & MusicBrainz:  Access Expired  (Internet Meta Data)
            
            DSP Effects: Release 3
            Codecs Installed  
            
            
            Encoders (write)  
            
            [Audio Info]  
            [Calculate Audio CRC]  
            [ID Tag Update]  Release 1
            [ReplayGain]  Release 2
            Bwf Mp2  Release 5
            .wav  
            Dalet  Release 3
            .snd  
            FLAC  Release 11 (FLAC 1.2.1)
            .flac  
            Monkeys Audio  Release 9 (Monkeys Audio v3.99)
            .ape  
            Mp2  Release 5
            .mp2  
            mp3 (Fraunhofer IIS)  Release 2 (Fraunhofer IIS v4.0.3)
            .mp3  
            mp3 (Helix)  
            .mp3  
            mp3 (Lame)  Lame 3.98
            .mp3  
            ogg vorbis  Release 18 (Ogg v1.1.3 Vorbis V1.2.0)
            .ogg  
            Real Audio (Helix)  Release 5 - using Helix SDK v11 22/1/2007
            .ra  
            Shorten  Release 1 (Shorten Encoder v3.6.0)
            .shn  
            Test Conversion  
            tooLame mp2  Release 3
            .mp2  
            Wave  Release 13.1
            .wav  
            Wave64  Release 1
            .w64  
            WavPack  Release 6 (using WavPack 4.41)
            .wv  
            
            
            Decoders (read)  
            
            CD Decoder  Release 13.1
            .cda  
            Dalet Decoder  
            .snd  
            FLAC Decoder  
            .flac  
            Monkeys Audio Decoder  
            .ape  
            mp3 Decoder  Release 13.1
            .m2a, .mp1, .mp2, .mp3, .mpa, .mpeg, .mpg, .mpga, .mpx  
            Ogg Vorbis Decoder  
            .oga, .ogg  
            Shorten Compressed Audio File (*.SHN)  
            .SHN  
            Wave Decoder  Release 13.1
            .wav  
            Wave64 Decoder  
            .w64  
            WavPack Decoder  
            .wv  
            
            
            Install on Demand  
            
            Apple Lossless  .m4a
            m4a Nero (AAC)  .mp4
            Windows Media Audio 10  .wma
            AAC (Advanced Audio Compression) (read only)  .aac
            Midi (read only)  .mid
            Musepack (read only)  .mpc
            What am I doing wrong?

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            • Spoon
              Administrator
              • Apr 2002
              • 44511

              #7
              Re: EAC/dbpoweramp different wave file size

              Change for Wave64 which are using the same settings as wave.
              Spoon
              www.dbpoweramp.com

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              • Tigerman
                dBpoweramp Enthusiast

                • Mar 2005
                • 157

                #8
                Re: EAC/dbpoweramp different wave file size

                Thanks that worked.
                Maybe in one of the next betas you could automatically change Wave64 settings if wave settings are changed?
                Bit illogical to change the wave settings if someone changed the wave64 setting but not vice versa.
                Last edited by Tigerman; December 26, 2008, 08:03 AM.

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                • Spoon
                  Administrator
                  • Apr 2002
                  • 44511

                  #9
                  Re: EAC/dbpoweramp different wave file size

                  It is a bug in Wave64, was fixed but not sure if released.
                  Spoon
                  www.dbpoweramp.com

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                  • Tigerman
                    dBpoweramp Enthusiast

                    • Mar 2005
                    • 157

                    #10
                    Re: EAC/dbpoweramp different wave file size

                    According Codec Central and DBPA configuration I've the latest wave64 codec installed, so I think bugfix is not yet released.

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