R13 and AMG

[aminalll]

G'day,
I've so far had no luck in retrieving album information from AMG. The other services work fine but I wanted the extra detail that AMG would provide. I am not using Kaspersky I'm using Norton Internet Security. I turned Norton off as well as PeerGuardian and still have no luck. I've captured the transfer of information through port 80 and everything network wise is working well.

For example here's one of the frames that was received:

Frame 6 (1490 bytes on wire, 1490 bytes captured)
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Transmission Control Protocol, Src Port: http (80), Dst Port: 50664 (50664), Seq: 1, Ack: 498, Len: 1436
Hypertext Transfer Protocol

0000  00 19 d2 6a 15 b4 00 16 e3 d4 a1 48 08 00 45 00   ...j.......H..E.
0010  05 c4 7c 04 40 00 3d 06 cc d9 40 5c ed 27 c0 a8   ..|.@.=...@\.'..
0020  01 2a 00 50 c5 e8 b3 ce c1 83 b7 7d 86 0c 50 10   .*.P.......}..P.
0030  00 36 07 b1 00 00 48 54 54 50 2f 31 2e 30 20 32   .6....HTTP/1.0 2
0040  30 30 20 4f 4b 0d 0a 44 61 74 65 3a 20 4d 6f 6e   00 OK..Date: Mon
0050  2c 20 32 36 20 4d 61 79 20 32 30 30 38 20 30 32   , 26 May 2008 02
0060  3a 30 32 3a 35 30 20 47 4d 54 0d 0a 58 2d 43 61   :02:50 GMT..X-Ca
0070  63 68 65 3a 20 4d 49 53 53 20 66 72 6f 6d 20 62   che: MISS from b
0080  72 69 2d 70 6f 77 2d 70 72 31 2e 74 70 67 69 2e   ri-pow-pr1.tpgi.
0090  63 6f 6d 2e 61 75 0d 0a 58 2d 43 61 63 68 65 2d   com.au..X-Cache-
00a0  4c 6f 6f 6b 75 70 3a 20 4d 49 53 53 20 66 72 6f   Lookup: MISS fro
00b0  6d 20 62 72 69 2d 70 6f 77 2d 70 72 31 2e 74 70   m bri-pow-pr1.tp
00c0  67 69 2e 63 6f 6d 2e 61 75 3a 33 31 32 38 0d 0a   gi.com.au:3128..
00d0  56 69 61 3a 20 31 2e 30 20 62 72 69 2d 70 6f 77   Via: 1.0 bri-pow
00e0  2d 70 72 31 2e 74 70 67 69 2e 63 6f 6d 2e 61 75   -pr1.tpgi.com.au
00f0  3a 33 31 32 38 20 28 73 71 75 69 64 29 0d 0a 43   :3128 (squid)..C
0100  6f 6e 6e 65 63 74 69 6f 6e 3a 20 63 6c 6f 73 65   onnection: close
0110  0d 0a 0d 0a 41 d8 17 00 00 20 85 00 00 00 8f 00   ....A.... ......
0120  00 00 a2 00 00 00 a2 00 00 00 ac 00 00 00 b6 00   ................
0130  00 00 b6 00 00 00 b8 00 00 00 ba 00 00 00 be 00   ................
0140  00 00 c2 00 00 00 c2 00 00 00 c4 00 00 00 c4 00   ................
0150  00 00 37 01 00 00 37 01 00 00 02 17 00 00 59 17   ..7...7.......Y.
0160  00 00 59 17 00 00 59 17 00 00 9b 17 00 00 ae 17   ..Y...Y.........
0170  00 00 c8 17 00 00 d2 17 00 00 d2 17 00 00 d2 17   ................
0180  00 00 d2 17 00 00 d2 17 00 00 d2 17 00 00 d4 17   ................
0190  00 00 d6 17 00 00 d8 17 00 00 d8 17 00 00 52 20   ..............R 
01a0  20 20 38 34 34 34 36 31 41 6c 72 69 67 68 74 2c     844461Alright,
01b0  20 53 74 69 6c 6c 20 5b 55 4b 5d 50 20 20 20 38    Still [UK]P   8
01c0  31 36 39 30 32 4c 69 6c 79 20 41 6c 6c 65 6e 00   16902Lily Allen.
01d0  00 06 00 52 4f 43 4b 52 6f 63 6b 01 00 02 0d 00   ...ROCKRock.....
01e0  00 00 43 00 00 00 73 00 00 00 04 15 00 00 00 17   ..C...s.........
01f0  00 00 00 20 00 00 00 2c 00 00 00 36 00 00 00 43   ... ...,...6...C
0200  44 45 4d 49 2f 52 65 67 61 6c 30 39 34 36 33 36   DEMI/Regal094636
0210  37 30 32 38 32 37 32 30 30 36 20 30 37 20 31 37   7028272006 07 17
0220  04 15 00 00 00 17 00 00 00 1a 00 00 00 26 00 00   .............&..
0230  00 30 00 00 00 43 44 45 4d 49 30 39 34 36 33 37   .0...CDEMI094637
0240  31 37 33 39 32 33 32 30 30 36 20 30 38 20 30 31   1739232006 08 01
0250  01 09 00 00 00 cb 15 00 00 03 11 00 00 00 be 15   ................
0260  00 00 c0 15 00 00 c2 15 00 00 0b 31 00 00 00 96   ...........1....
0270  02 00 00 ab 04 00 00 b6 06 00 00 61 08 00 00 f8   ...........a....
0280  09 00 00 90 0b 00 00 33 0d 00 00 61 0f 00 00 45   .......3...a...E
0290  11 00 00 18 14 00 00 ad 15 00 00 17 61 00 00 00   ............a...
02a0  6b 00 00 00 70 00 00 00 70 00 00 00 72 00 00 00   k...p...p...r...
02b0  74 00 00 00 d2 01 00 00 24 02 00 00 28 02 00 00   t.......$...(...
02c0  2c 02 00 00 41 02 00 00 41 02 00 00 41 02 00 00   ,...A...A...A...
02d0  41 02 00 00 5a 02 00 00 5a 02 00 00 5c 02 00 00   A...Z...Z...\...
02e0  5e 02 00 00 5e 02 00 00 5e 02 00 00 60 02 00 00   ^...^...^...`...
02f0  60 02 00 00 65 02 00 00 65 02 00 00 54 20 20 38   `...e...e...T  8
0300  39 37 33 39 36 39 53 6d 69 6c 65 c5 00 01 00 05   973969Smile.....
0310  19 00 00 00 62 00 00 00 a0 00 00 00 ec 00 00 00   ....b...........
0320  24 01 00 00 5e 01 00 00 04 15 00 00 00 1f 00 00   $...^...........
0330  00 29 00 00 00 3e 00 00 00 49 00 00 00 50 20 20   .)...>...I...P  
0340  20 38 31 36 39 30 32 4c 69 6c 79 20 41 6c 6c 65    816902Lily Alle
0350  6e e3 83 aa e3 83 aa e3 83 bc e3 80 80 e3 82 a2   n...............
0360  e3 83 ac e3 83 b3 41 6c 6c 65 6e 2c 20 4c 69 6c   ......Allen, Lil
0370  79 04 15 00 00 00 1f 00 00 00 2e 00 00 00 2e 00   y...............
0380  00 00 3e 00 00 00 50 20 20 20 38 38 32 30 38 35   ..>...P   882085
0390  49 79 69 6f 6c 61 20 42 61 62 61 6c 6f 6c 61 42   Iyiola BabalolaB
03a0  61 62 61 6c 6f 6c 61 2c 20 49 79 69 6f 6c 61 04   abalola, Iyiola.
03b0  15 00 00 00 1f 00 00 00 35 00 00 00 35 00 00 00   ........5...5...
03c0  4c 00 00 00 50 20 20 20 20 37 31 34 32 34 43 6c   L...P    71424Cl
03d0  65 6d 65 6e 74 20 22 43 6f 78 73 6f 6e 65 22 20   ement "Coxsone" 
03e0  44 6f 64 64 44 6f 64 64 2c 20 43 6c 65 6d 65 6e   DoddDodd, Clemen
03f0  74 20 22 43 6f 78 73 6f 6e 65 22 04 15 00 00 00   t "Coxsone".....
0400  1f 00 00 00 2b 00 00 00 2b 00 00 00 38 00 00 00   ....+...+...8...
0410  50 20 20 20 33 30 37 33 37 31 44 61 72 72 65 6e   P   307371Darren
0420  20 4c 65 77 69 73 4c 65 77 69 73 2c 20 44 61 72    LewisLewis, Dar
0430  72 65 6e 04 15 00 00 00 1f 00 00 00 2c 00 00 00   ren.........,...
0440  2c 00 00 00 3a 00 00 00 50 20 20 20 31 30 36 35   ,...:...P   1065
0450  31 37 4a 61 63 6b 69 65 20 4d 69 74 74 6f 6f 4d   17Jackie MittooM
0460  69 74 74 6f 6f 2c 20 4a 61 63 6b 69 65 01 09 00   ittoo, Jackie...
0470  00 00 52 00 00 00 04 15 00 00 00 1f 00 00 00 29   ..R............)
0480  00 00 00 3e 00 00 00 49 00 00 00 50 20 20 20 38   ...>...I...P   8
0490  31 36 39 30 32 4c 69 6c 79 20 41 6c 6c 65 6e e3   16902Lily Allen.
04a0  83 aa e3 83 aa e3 83 bc e3 80 80 e3 82 a2 e3 83   ................
04b0  ac e3 83 b3 41 6c 6c 65 6e 2c 20 4c 69 6c 79 52   ....Allen, LilyR
04c0  4f 43 4b 52 6f 63 6b 32 30 30 36 20 45 4d 49 20   OCKRock2006 EMI 
04d0  52 65 63 6f 72 64 73 20 4c 74 64 2e 05 19 00 00   Records Ltd.....
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0500  17 61 00 00 00 6b 00 00 00 78 00 00 00 78 00 00   .a...k...x...x..
0510  00 7a 00 00 00 7c 00 00 00 82 01 00 00 d4 01 00   .z...|..........
0520  00 d8 01 00 00 dc 01 00 00 f1 01 00 00 f1 01 00   ................
0530  00 f1 01 00 00 f1 01 00 00 0a 02 00 00 0a 02 00   ................
0540  00 0c 02 00 00 0e 02 00 00 0e 02 00 00 0e 02 00   ................
0550  00 10 02 00 00 10 02 00 00 15 02 00 00 15 02 00   ................
0560  00 54 20 20 38 39 37 33 39 37 30 4b 6e 6f 63 6b   .T  8973970Knock
0570  20 27 45 6d 20 4f 75 74 ad 00 01 00 04 15 00 00    'Em Out........
0580  00 5e 00 00 00 9c 00 00 00 d4 00 00 00 06 01 00   .^..............
0590  00 04 15 00 00 00 1f 00 00 00 29 00 00 00 3e 00   ..........)...>.
05a0  00 00 49 00 00 00 50 20 20 20 38 31 36 39 30 32   ..I...P   816902
05b0  4c 69 6c 79 20 41 6c 6c 65 6e e3 83 aa e3 83 aa   Lily Allen......
05c0  e3 83 bc e3 80 80 e3 82 a2 e3 83 ac e3 83 b3 41   ...............A
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No.     Time        Source                Destination           Protocol Info
      7 0.658569    64.92.237.39          192.168.1.42          HTTP     Continuation or non-HTTP traffic

I guess something is going wrong getting the information that was received into dbpoweramp? Any other program that might interfere with the process?

[LtData]

Re: R13 and AMG

Does dMC pull info from the other providers such as GD3?

Try disabling the Norton services and rebooting so it is not running at all and then see if it works. Just disabling it probably isn't enough.

[aminalll]

Re: R13 and AMG

Thanks for the reply. I'll give that a go.

Using PerfectMeta it will source information from GD3, Musicbrainz and freedb properly. It won't display allmediaguide information with either PerfectMeta or selectively. I had originally thought the problem lay in my ISP utilising a proxy at their end but as I found out with WireShark the information is being retrieved correctly.

[aminalll]

Re: R13 and AMG

Well unfortunately it's not as easy as that ;(.

Disabled Norton starting up through sysconfig and gave it another go. Still fails to display information.

Edit: Just adding that I have previously had success with an earlier trial version of dbpoweramp on an XP machine. Wonder if it's some sort of Vista issue, although I do have UAC disabled.

[Spoon]

Re: R13 and AMG

Nothing to do with vista (we use it ourselves).

AMG does not like having its datastream altered, Kasparsky was doing just that and AMG was refusing to read the respose (the local libraries we use).

[LtData]

Re: R13 and AMG

Did the XP machine have Norton installed?

[aminalll]

Re: R13 and AMG

Just tried accessing AMG data at university and it works so it's my friggin ISP that's probably to blame. This is with everything running including Norton Internet Security. Everything goes through a proxy at their end and I think that it must change the data as it passes through :cry:

Any work arounds that anyone knows? It's not my software it's something to do with my ISP/network. Perhaps there is a way to bypass? May it be some setting on the ADSL or wireless side of my modem that's mucking around with the data?

[Spoon]

Re: R13 and AMG

R13 had a fix to make Kasparsky work, are you using R13?

[aminalll]

Re: R13 and AMG

Yeah I bought R13 yesterday .

I suppose it's good that I know it's not a software issue. Pity I might be with a dud ISP that doesn't let me use AMG through dbpoweramp though :P.

Edit: Oh and to make it a bit clearer, when I tried it at university I used the same computer (laptop).

[aminalll]

Re: R13 and AMG

Grr.. tested with another modem on the same connection and I get the same result. Stuck with the bastards for 18 months too or else I have to pay up to a maximum of $350 to end it. Bah.

[aminalll]

Re: R13 and AMG

Well at least you know now that Norton Internet Security 2008 works fine .

[Porcus]

Re: R13 and AMG

File a complaint!

(Could some proxy service help?)

[aminalll]

Re: R13 and AMG

I've tried putting a few different proxies in the settings but it still fails. The transparent proxy at my ISP's end must be used as well and still screw up the data. They only filter port 80 however so if AMG allowed different ports it would solve my problem.

There's multiple services that I have found out are affected by their proxy through their forum :p. Predominately when someone can't access a website they seem to be asking the users themselves to contact that site administrator and ask them to resolve the problem. Most problems are due to people sharing a common IP through the proxy and the website seeing this (rather than each user's connection IP). Some sites like rapidshare monitor download from that IP so the limit for those sites is reached incredibly quickly.

Other web services like whois seem to be affected as well as AMG. I'm thinking AMG screws up because of the large amount of details that they hold and when these details are passed when modified and in an unexpected sequence it throws a fit. GD3, CDDB and Musicbrainz send a smaller amount of information in comparison.

I've asked them to remove AMG's IP from those that pass through the proxy but I don't know what my chances are. They haven't made exceptions for other people before. I've gotten the impression that their business model consists of just locking new customers into contract and supplying a substandard experience. Their terms and conditions state that they reserve the right to use a proxies so I also don't know if they'd accept my termination of contract due to these issues.

I suppose I could try with the governing body of ISP matters where I live.

[InorganicMatter]

Re: R13 and AMG

I had the same problem as the OP, and joined here for he purpose of solving it. It's all fixed, and I can now use AMG.

The problem is proxy servers. Specifically, proxy servers that alter headers. My proxy is the Squid Proxy Cache, which I use to cache internet pages. Proxies are also used to anonymize internet access, and I think some security programs use them (probably Kapersky and Norton from looking around).

The solution is to whitelist AMG's servers in the proxy software, which tells the proxy to just pass that data through, without caching it or altering it. This must be done on their range of IP address, which, in Squid-ready subnet notation, are:

166.90.203.0/24
64.92.237.0/24

Or, in human-readable form:

166.90.203.1 thru 166.90.203.255
64.92.237.1 thru 64.92.237.255

Yes, I'm sure that entire IP range from 1-255 isn't owned by AMG, but I didn't feel like searching and pecking each one, so I just unblocked the whole range. This got it working for me!

My proxy server, Squid, in combination with the Dansguardian content filter, is one of the proxies of choice for internet censoring by oppressive governments. I saw on Google that a lot of Australians were having the same problems as me. If the man is watching you, sorry, you probably can't get this to work unless there is a way to get that range of IP addresses unblocked. If you're like me, and run a proxy at home for internet privacy, this is the solution.

Hope that was helpful!

[Spoon]

Re: R13 and AMG

Very helpful (I have added to the sitcky faq).