PerfectMeta Discussion

[Porcus]

Re: PerfectMeta Discussion

Spoon, any reason you are not working with the CueTools DB developer on this? He said he would do track based if it got you on board...

Yep, http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/...dpost&p=797411 .

I think that supporting CUEToolsDB lookups would be a good idea -- the fact that it is disc-based makes it more of a complement and less than a competitor. If Spoon has no entry which can be used to repair the rip, then looking up CUEToolsDB will
- give access to more entries (the EAC plugin will presumably give CUEToolsDB a lot of submissions not in the SpoonDB),
but
- only if you have the entire disc with at most a very few errors.


Tracks-based repair has its obvious advantages (if, say, one track has minor issues and another is completely unreadable, then CUEToolsDB is of no help), so Spoon's solution will anyway show up as the primary choice with CUEToolsDB as a second shot.

[EliC]

Re: PerfectMeta Discussion

Spoon, any reason you are not working with the CueTools DB developer on this? He said he would do track based if it got you on board...
Any ETA for alpha or beta release?

[Spoon]

Re: PerfectMeta Discussion

We are implementing our own version of CUETools DB which is not limited to whole disc rips, rather to be track based.

[n0v!ze]

Re: PerfectMeta Discussion

PerfectMeta is a great addition to dBpoweramp Ripper. Like other users, I'd appreciate if one could use it for existing EAC rips consisting of CUE sheet and image file. The process of 1) unpacking the lossless image (APE, FLAC, WV) to WAV, 2) creating an ISO, and 3) mounting the ISO to a virtual drive could be automated, right? It doesn't have to be a perfect solution, i.e. no hidden track support or multi session with data tracks support is really needed for this purpose, I think. Not every body will have the time and will to re-rip hundreds of albums just to get proper metadata...

It would also be great if one could select additional tag fields beside the provided ones. These do not have to be spported by all providers but can be unique to a single metadata provider (like the musicbrainz id).

Any plans to support CUETools DB ?

[Spoon]

Re: PerfectMeta Discussion

Punctuation is removed from the results to compare.

[EliC]

Re: PerfectMeta Discussion

There seems to be a bug related to punctuation. I have seen quite a few examples were GD3, MB, & freeDB agree, but the AMG result still is choosen. In these example the 3 that agree all end with some sort of punctuation (! ?) and AMG does not, but PerfectMeta chooses the AMG result.

[EliC]

Re: PerfectMeta Discussion

Opensource project with interesting implications and ideas relevant to PerfectMeta:

http://ismir2010.ismir.net/proceedings/ismir2010-35.pdf

http://jmir.sourceforge.net/index_jMusicMetaManager.html

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[PeterPanino]

Re: PerfectMeta Discussion

Following EliC's suggestion, I post here my ideas about the Manual Meta Review window:

1. The Manual Meta Review window should be resizable: Actually it fills almost all of my 2560*1600 screen which is somewhat uncomfortable.

2. The Manual Meta Review window should have alternating white and light gray background rows, so it would be easier to overview and compare words on the same row.

[EliC]

Re: PerfectMeta Discussion

An example where GD3, MB, and freedb agree, exactly, and disagree with AMG, yet AMG rules... is there something in the Perfectmeta about punctuation?

Discogs agrees with GD3, MB and fDB as well ( http://www.discogs.com/Steel-Pulse-R...release/554159 )

[EliC]

Re: PerfectMeta Discussion

Here is an example where AMG list the artist as "various artist" and where dbpoweramp actually chooses it as the correct option:

[EliC]

Re: PerfectMeta Discussion

Noted

thanks, I am actually finding this pretty frequently. Another example just to show its not a one time thing:

http://tinypic.com/r/301zo6a/7

[Spoon]

Re: PerfectMeta Discussion

Noted

[EliC]

Re: PerfectMeta Discussion



In this case PM actually used the AMG data for track *blooper*7 because GD3 and freedb had the same info, but this is not counted and MB actually had the same info, but spacing was different, so AMG ruled, incorrectly.

[EliC]

Re: PerfectMeta Discussion

When the number of tracks from 1 one the sources does not match the number of tracks on the disc, its results should be seriously downgraded.

This should include any images. I just ripped Bows Blush. AMG returned the incorrect artist and album and didn't even have the correct track cound. However, despite PM showing that all of the AMG meta-data was wrong the AMG album art was used (GD3 pic was correct).

If all other AMG meta-data is wrong, AMG specific meta-data should not be used.

[EliC]

Re: PerfectMeta Discussion

PerfectMeta should preventor seriously downgrade an artist from being listed as:
Various Artist

I have found this on quite a few from AMG in the latest batch. Most recent disc is:

Altered Beats - Assassin Knowledges Of The Remanipulated