Numbering tracks

[Java]

Hello, I am d/l some free music, some of the files are converted to wave and the others at this time show in real media, which I use the dbpowerAMp converter to wave.

What would be the solution in keeping them numbered. For instance if I d/l one song and number it as track one, then the next d/l is already converted when its d/l how can i keep it in order if possible

Thanks!!

[ChristinaS]

Re: Numbering tracks

Can't imagine any way other than to rename them yourself after each download. When they get converted they get to keep the same file name with only the extension being modified to reflect the new file type.

[Java]

Re: Numbering tracks

Thanks for your reply. I have another question. I'm sure you have said this in one of your earlier posts.

I have a site I d/l some music from, some of the songs are real audio (ra, ram etc.) I use the power coverter and convert them to wave.

I found out when I tried to burn them to a cd they did not show. I think that I have put every thing in filters, direct show etc that I know about.

Is it not possible to burn these types of music. Or do I need something else.



Thanks

[xoas]

Re: Numbering tracks

If you converted these files to standard wave (16 bits, 44.1 kHz, 2 channels), and if they play then you should definitely be able to burn them.
The most likely reason that the do not show in your burner program would be that you have your burner program set to display files of some type rather than wave. Changing your burner program's settings to display either wave or "all files" or "all audio files" or "all" should correct the problem.

If this does not appear to work, please tell us if you can play these wave files, what properties (bits, frequency, channels) your wave files have, and what burner program you are using.

Best wishes,
Bill

[Java]

Re: Numbering tracks

HI Bill, thanks.

After I had posted the msg yesterday I shut my pc and came back on later in the evening. I found that all the ram files etc had bee changed to to wave and was showing as a wm recording.

I could not figure it out, does it take a period of time from the time I conveted the files for the to transfer to wm files.

I am trying again today, I converted 3 files from real audio(ramfiles etc). and they still show the real logo box and did not change. Am goin to try some more and see what happens. It is difficult for me to explain in your terms, but perhaps you might know what I am talking about.



Thanks>

[ChristinaS]

Re: Numbering tracks

Files don't convert "in place". Well, if you allow the program to delete original file afetr conversion, then you're left only with the new file obtained from teh conversion. In any case teh converted files get stoer in the detination folder you have defined when selecting the conversion codec. It's either "same folder as original" or some other folder. Typically the default destination folder is C:\Converted Music .

The converted files will have the same file name but with a different extension from your original files. If you convert file abc.rm to mp3 you will obtain a new file called abc.mp3 . If you opted to delete source file after conversion, then you won't find abc.rm any more anywhere, and you'll only have abc.mp3 wherever the program was told to store it after conversion.

Bad idea at all times to automatically delete source files after conversion. Bound to cause irreparable problems eventually. Don't ever use that, not even if you are confident nothing will ever go wrong with your conversions. Murphy's laws always prevail.

And if you've not done it yet, please enable viewing file extensions. http://forum.dbpoweramp.com/showthread.php?t=5361

[Java]

Re: Numbering tracks attn: xoas

"If you converted these files to standard wave (16 bits, 44.1 kHz, 2 channels), and if they play then you should definitely be able to burn them"

Hello, in reply to the above:
My cd burner is "cdburnerxp pro3- Which is easy for me to use.

I looked thru the settings and I could only find this that might apply:
Default filter, usase a default file filter for audio cd writer. If you have more than one filter us( to separate them (mp3; wave; etc) In the line below it has the following *.mp3; *.wave; *.ogg; *.wma; *.cd; ;*.mp3

I note it he audio recording box it "conexant audio, creative sound blasterPCI and microsoft soundmapper>

I check the dmc options and found that creative soundblaster applied so just before I burn a cd I changed thie to the creative sound blaster.

What I cannot figure out, is__I d/l some real files into my files and they showed as Real which I then used the poweramp converter and converted them they still stayed as real. Yet I had converted some real audio files
earlier that show as wave files and I was able to burn them.
Most of the songs I d/l was automatically convtered in to wave files.

I didn't know where to look for this: "(16 bits, 44.1 kHz, 2 channels)>

Thanks

[ChristinaS]

Re: Numbering tracks

Did you read my post above?

[Java]

Re: Numbering tracks

Hello, I am reading your on extensions what are they, I tried that awhile back by renaming ram, to ra and it sure did mess me up had to delete real alternative and reinstall so am very cautious.

I will tell you this, I opened up a real audio file and saved it to all files as suggested by [COLOR=RoyalBlue]xoas[/COLOR] after it played thru, I then ran it thru the converter, I have set up a file to save it it, however the song did not go to that file, I got to looking at my drive and saw that it saved under another name in a different that had no other songs it, I then went to my burner and it did properly burn the cd.

I am hopeful that as I do other real audio files I can get them all together after conversions.

I am also reading "Spoons" article.

If you will look bakc on some of my other posts, I posted back after I read the article on renaming files, using note pad and I changed some of the rams to ra and that really messed me up.

If you have any further thoughts please post back Thanks!!!

[ChristinaS]

Re: Numbering tracks

Well you should not blindly rename files to different extensions. You may do it to try to see if they had been wrongly named before but never forget what and where they are and rename them back if what you tried did not work.

Normally a file having the .ram extension is not an audio file, it is a text file (called a meta file) that gives the address of the actual .rm or .ra file which is the real media file itself.

Please read also this: http://forum.dbpoweramp.com/showthread.php?t=6194

Please pay attention to all the options you have in dMC - including the folder where files go after conversion. It's all right there for each conversion.

If you have not yet enabled viewing file extensions we are all wasting our time here.

[xoas]

Re: Numbering tracks

CDBurner XP Pro3 indicates that it uses various "filters" to enable it to convert and burn .mp3, .ogg, and .wmp files to cd in standard audio cd format. The use of the term "filter" is similar to the use of the term "codec" in dBpowerAMP Music Converter.

If you try to burn a RealAudio file to standard cd format in CDBurner XP Pro3, you cannot. It cannot convert RealAudio files. That is done outside of CDBurner XP Pro3.
In your case, you are using dBpowerAMP Music Converter (dMC) for this. You have had some success but it appears that some RealAudio files are not converting (problem #1) and that after some convert you cannot find them (problem#2).

For problem #1-a) Make sure the files you are trying to convert are not streaming files because streaming files cannot be converted by dMC. The simplest test of whether a file is a streaming file or not is whether you can play it on your computer without being connected to the internet. Also, if you right-click on a streaming file and check the file properties, you will generally see that the file size is very small (a few kb at most rather than 100's of kb or over a mb-often many mb-in size for a file with audio data.
b) Also, look at the source for your files. Some downloadable RealAudio files may be copy-protected. These you also cannot convert directly.
c) The quickest way to check to see if dMC can convert a RealAudio files with your current configuration is to try a test conversion (right-click on the file, click on Convert To, select "Test Conversion (No Write)" where you select your format (like wave, mp3)). If the file will test convert, then you should be able to convert it to wave and this is all you need to do to prepare it for burning. If one or more files does not convert to wave, then you have to figure out why it will not. Helpful information would be the source of the file, the file size, the playing time, and the file extension (see Christina's link in post #6 of this thread). If you think you are dealing with a streaming file or other metafile (a file that contains both audio and other information), also look at the link Christina has in her post #10 of this thread.
d) Although various users have reported some success with chaning file extensions this is generally unsound and with RealAudio it is pretty much always a bad idea, as Christina has pointed out.

For Problem #2 (the "missing" converted files):
a) You may find it helpful to save these files either in the same folder as your RealAudio files or in a set location. You may find it easiest just to save your converted RealAudio files to the same folder as your RealAudio files.
b) Wave files do not contain tag information. If you right-click on a wave file and click on Properties and then on the Id Tag tab, you will see file details. This will include the information on file name, file location, file size, file extension, format, frequency, channels and bits. This information is helpful in identifying those files that may lose their identity after conversion to wave and this is also where you can find helpful information about your file if needed.
c) To use CDBurner XP Pro3 to burn your wave (or mp3, ogg or wma) files to cd, you will need to browse to the correct location to find those files. The browser may allow you to look at files that are not wave, wma, mp3 or ogg. Remember, this program cannot convert files unless they are one of those formats. So don't try to burn them directly (this is I think where your error about a missing filter came from).

Hope this helps.

Best wishes,
Bill

[Java]

Re: Numbering tracks

Hi Bill Thanks. I have having sucess in converting the real files to wave and am still testing.

I will print your post and study it, I found out just a few moments ago that I can convert those files, I guess you use the terminology " on the fly" which means to convert while playing, not sure but am guessing> Which leads me to this question, if I convert while recording I get distorted sounds, which sounds like background noise.

I guess it would be better to play the song and then convert, would you agree?

Thanks

[xoas]

Re: Numbering tracks

I guess it would be better to play the song and then convert, would you agree?

Yes. The exception is if you are recording the track through Auxilary input.

Best wishes,
Bill

[ChristinaS]

Re: Numbering tracks

Huh?

I think you mean record (through dMC Auxiliary Input) to standard PCM 16-bit 44.1KHz 2-channel stereo wav while playing, and later convert the wav to something else. Or am I missing something?

[xoas]

Re: Numbering tracks

I think Java was reporting in post #12 that he was converting RealAudio files and getting some glitches because he was playing and converting at the same time. His question, generically (and probably rhetorically), was whether that was a good idea-the answer obviously being "No".
It does not really matter whether he plays the RealAudio track before converting or not (except if he can't play it he may very well not be able to convert it either).
I may have created a mis-impression by quoting the question and then pointing out the one circumstance (recording through auxilary input to any format) where you do want to play the song while recording and converting it.

Sorry, if I created more confusion than I cleared up!

Best wishes,
Bill