Can't get cbr Ogg

[Tigerman]

I have dMC 11 with Ogg Release 12, ogg 1.1.0 (among others) installed.
I tried to convert some ape-files to Ogg and chose constant bitrate in the pulldown menu.
I slided the slider to 256 kbps. According the helpfile this must be possible.
However, after conversion the Ogg-file is vbr.
I have re-installed the Ogg-codec but to no avail.

What am I doing wrong? :confused:

[neilthecellist]

Re: Can't get cbr Ogg

wait, what do you mean by VBR? Ogg Vorbis is a little confusing when dealing with VBR and CBR.

When you hover your mouse over the new Ogg Vorbis file, does it pop up saying it's a CBR file or VBR? If it says it's CBR and when you play it, the bitrate changes, [size=4]THIS IS NORMAL[/size]. I'm not sure why there is even a CBR choice when converting to Ogg Vorbis, but there is. I'm pretty sure Ogg Vorbis CBR and VBR are pretty much the same. While you're playing the song in , say like Winamp 5.08e, the bitrate will change a lot.

[LtData]

Re: Can't get cbr Ogg

I'm not sure why there is even a CBR choice when converting to Ogg Vorbis, but there is. I'm pretty sure Ogg Vorbis CBR and VBR are pretty much the same. While you're playing the song in , say like Winamp 5.08e, the bitrate will change a lot.

CBR is useful for streaming songs over the Internet. If there will be no streaming, then VBR is the best choice, as Ogg is optmized for this.

[Spoon]

Re: Can't get cbr Ogg

Ogg does not have a real CBR mode, just an emulated one.

[neilthecellist]

Re: Can't get cbr Ogg

ah. thanks for clarifying LtData.

Spoon, what do you mean by "emulated"?

[Tigerman]

Re: Can't get cbr Ogg

Thanks for the clarifications.
The tag says it's constant, winamp says another thing, like Neil said.
I didn't know it was normal.
I usely use variable, but was just trying out some settings.

[neilthecellist]

Re: Can't get cbr Ogg

stick to vbr if it's gonna stay on your hard drive.

[adaywayne]

Re: Can't get cbr Ogg

ah. thanks for clarifying LtData.

Spoon, what do you mean by "emulated"?

It was a typo. He meant "emasculated"

[petriburg]

Re: Can't get cbr Ogg

Spoon's use of "emulate" was not a typo. Neil, you should get yourself a decent dictionary. I quote from the 'New Oxford Dictionary of English'.....Emulate: match or surpass (a person or achievement), typically by imitation. Computing: to reproduce the function or action of (a different computer or software system).

Score: Spoon 1 , Neil 0 :thumbdown

[ChristinaS]

Re: Can't get cbr Ogg

LOL you guys! :D

[neilthecellist]

Re: Can't get cbr Ogg

i KNOW what the defintion of emulated is. However, in this case, I can't understand how CBR Ogg Vorbis can be "emulated"?

[LtData]

Re: Can't get cbr Ogg

i KNOW what the defintion of emulated is. However, in this case, I can't understand how CBR Ogg Vorbis can be "emulated"?

Mabye next, we look up sarcasm? :p
But I think it says emulated in that it doesn't actually have a method to fix the bitrate, but it figures out an approximate way to do it.

[neilthecellist]

Re: Can't get cbr Ogg

lol . what is this, the 6th time on the web that I can't figure out sarcasm?

So Ogg Vorbis uses an approximation to do CBR? Interesting...