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  • reichardt

    • May 2002
    • 14

    Velvet Revolver

    Hi, I put the new Velvet Revolver CD in my computer to rip songs to my daughters Rio s35s and the computer went nuts! A million screens popped up from a file on the CD. The music is windows media and is protected. I read on the help area that Spoon said there may have been a program loaded onto my computer by the music CD manufacturer that blocks all future attempts to rip. How can I find it and remove it? I really want to find this program. Also I cannot rip it either. HELP :(
  • LtData
    dBpoweramp Guru

    • May 2004
    • 8288

    #2
    Re: Velvet Revolver

    If the CD just loaded a program into memory, restart the computer with the CD out of the drive. Once the computer has booted into Windows, hold down the left Shift key while you close the CD drive with the CD in it. Keep holding the key down for about 10 seconds after the CD has been read. Then, toggle the "Table of Contents Detection" under the arrow beside Options and then "Standard CD Emulation".

    If the CD loaded a program onto your HDD, it's a little more complicated. Try the above solution first.
    Last edited by LtData; December 31, 2004, 04:56 AM.

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    • reichardt

      • May 2002
      • 14

      #3
      Re: Velvet Revolver

      Thanks, I may have been safe and not loaded the program. A screen does pop up and asks to load but when you decline to load it it freezes everything and I had to go to task manager to get rid of it. I would like to know why the CD did not show wave files? It showed windows media files that were protected. Number one, I did not think my stereo would play Windows media files but it does work in my CD player. So maybe there is wave files somewhere on the disk. Also my Rio s35s is supposed to play wma. files but the CD won't let the transfer happen due to the protection. How do I rip them if they are protected? :o
      Last edited by reichardt; December 31, 2004, 11:24 AM. Reason: addition

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      • ChristinaS
        dBpoweramp Guru

        • Apr 2004
        • 4097

        #4
        Re: Velvet Revolver

        Originally posted by reichardt
        Thanks, I may have been safe and not loaded the program. A screen does pop up and asks to load but when you decline to load it it freezes everything and I had to go to task manager to get rid of it. I would like to know why the CD did not show wave files? It showed windows media files that were protected. Number one, I did not think my stereo would play Windows media files but it does work in my CD player. So maybe there is wave files somewhere on the disk. Also my Rio s35s is supposed to play wma. files but the CD won't let the transfer happen due to the protection. How do I rip them if they are protected? :o
        This sounds like a mixed cd. One part is standard audio cd and the second part is data, with the data being individual .wma files.

        Depending on how it is set up, you will see one part or the other in Windows Explorer.

        If you see the .wma files, I suppose you can simply copy them to your hard drive. As they are protected, you probably cannot convert them (easily). Besides you probably do want to have the original audio cd tracks to work with rather than something already converted to .wma which may or may not be of the quality you want or need.

        To be able to see the audio cd portion, perhaps the Table of contents detection (either on or off) in dMC Audio CD Input may solve this.

        I'd also disable autorun on your CD drive (not sure where you do this in XP), since this enables that automatic program to start.

        I don't have such a cd, so I really can't do more than offer different tips on how to proceed.

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        • reichardt

          • May 2002
          • 14

          #5
          Re: Velvet Revolver

          Thank you, I'll let you know how it turned out.

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          • Razgo
            Administrator
            • Apr 2002
            • 2532

            #6
            Re: Velvet Revolver

            also www.cdfreaks.com is a good resource of knowledge on this subject.

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            • reichardt

              • May 2002
              • 14

              #7
              Re: Velvet Revolver

              Well I did the standard CD emulation on the poweramp converter and converted to wave. The songs skip!? I still dont get it

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              • milfzor

                • Dec 2004
                • 24

                #8
                Re: Velvet Revolver

                as far as getting around protected cd's, i havent bought a protected cd (yet) but my best guess would be to find a program called cdrwin and go to the extract tracks section and do the audio tracks only...but as i said i havent tried it yet, but it should work...in theory at least....

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                • ChristinaS
                  dBpoweramp Guru

                  • Apr 2004
                  • 4097

                  #9
                  Re: Velvet Revolver

                  Originally posted by reichardt
                  Well I did the standard CD emulation on the poweramp converter and converted to wave. The songs skip!? I still dont get it
                  Try ripping the tracks using dMC alone, not dMC Audio CD Inout, if you're able to see the tracks (not the wma files) in WIndows Explorer. You won't get nice file names, but maybe they won't skip.

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                  • reichardt

                    • May 2002
                    • 14

                    #10
                    Re: Velvet Revolver

                    I did the standard DMC and the tracks still skip!

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                    • LtData
                      dBpoweramp Guru

                      • May 2004
                      • 8288

                      #11
                      Re: Velvet Revolver

                      I think the CD also incorporates the type of protection that has some sort of noise/skipping in the CD tracks. CD Players filter this noise/skipping out, but when you rip it with a computer, it duplicates the noise/skipping exactly. This may not be the case, though.

                      Did you try playing the wma files in Windows Media Player? If you can, then you can always use Auxiliary Input to copy the files.

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                      • ChristinaS
                        dBpoweramp Guru

                        • Apr 2004
                        • 4097

                        #12
                        Re: Velvet Revolver

                        Originally posted by LtData
                        I think the CD also incorporates the type of protection that has some sort of noise/skipping in the CD tracks. CD Players filter this noise/skipping out, but when you rip it with a computer, it duplicates the noise/skipping exactly. This may not be the case, though.

                        Did you try playing the wma files in Windows Media Player? If you can, then you can always use Auxiliary Input to copy the files.
                        Actually for dMC Auxiliary Input case he's better off to play the audio tracks in WMP, rather than the .wma files.

                        Last time this happened to me I fixed it by turning off the Table of contents detection. But I'd ripped another cd without realizing this had happened, and then returned the cd to the library, so it was too late to re-rip. I had to use a wav editor and just remove the first second of each track as this is where the trouble was, a loud pop right at the start.

                        I guess there are degrees of protection though, and they show up in different ways. It boggles the mind. Trial and error is the method of choice then.

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                        • jbestor

                          • May 2005
                          • 2

                          #13
                          Re: Velvet Revolver

                          I am trying to rip this cd to flac. Has anyone been successful with this?
                          Thanks

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                          • ChristinaS
                            dBpoweramp Guru

                            • Apr 2004
                            • 4097

                            #14
                            Re: Velvet Revolver

                            Originally posted by jbestor
                            I am trying to rip this cd to flac. Has anyone been successful with this?
                            Thanks
                            Flac or another file type wouldn't be the problem here.

                            What's the trouble with your cd?

                            Is it an audio cd or a data cd you have?

                            If it's an audio cd and it's protected you have to try the methods explained to bypass the protection in dMC Audio CD Input:
                            1) Togge table of contents detection from little arrow to the right of th big Options button > Standard CD player emulation
                            2) Hold down the shift key as you insert the cd

                            You may not be able to rip it in dMC Audio CD Input, but maybe you can acess the cd in Windows Explorer and you can see the tracks listed as track01.cda .... . In that case you can highlight them all and right click to convert to whatever you like and you have codecs for.

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                            • LtData
                              dBpoweramp Guru

                              • May 2004
                              • 8288

                              #15
                              Re: Velvet Revolver

                              Also, make sure you have the FLAC codec installed.
                              Christina, for the record, this CD IS protected.

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