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  • hijax2001

    • Jul 2004
    • 2

    Normalizing Tracks

    I guess maybe I don't get it. I have the Power Pack and have been normalizing several tracks at a time but my collection as a whole still has a big variance in overall volume levels. I think I am using the "simple" method but I'm not at my house - it's whatever the default normalization option is in Power Pack... Can you briefly explain the best way to average the overall volume levels of the tracks in my collection using Music Converter and the Power Pack? Thanks in advance!
  • Spoon
    Administrator
    • Apr 2002
    • 44701

    #2
    Re: Normalizing Tracks

    A more agressive approch is the Adaptive Normalize that will change volume within the file. Give it a try.
    Spoon
    www.dbpoweramp.com

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    • hijax2001

      • Jul 2004
      • 2

      #3
      Re: Normalizing Tracks

      It's not each individual file I am experiencing an issue with. It's the fact that I have normalized each individual file and yet the levels still greatly vary *on average*. Trying to figure out how to normalize a group of files so that they all average out, instead of one track being really quiet and the next really loud.

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      • Spoon
        Administrator
        • Apr 2002
        • 44701

        #4
        Re: Normalizing Tracks

        Adaptive will do this - the standard normalize is just a peak to peak multiply, Adaptive is the way to go.
        Spoon
        www.dbpoweramp.com

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        • shdanfo

          • Aug 2004
          • 2

          #5
          Re: Normalizing Tracks

          I have a problem and was hoping that Volume Normalize would be the solution, but haven't been able to find any documentation on it (just forum submissions from people as confused as myself). I think I may have finally discovered its location by clicking onPower Pack DSP, and then scrolling down through the available effects. A documentation file that explained each of these effects and their use would be useful. Even if such a thing might not be available as documentation, I'm sure it would be appreciated as a forum submission. In any case, here's my problem. I have mp3 files that were ripped from separate CDs, and are quite different in volume. Is it possible to use volume normalize to fix this? If not, since I still have the original CDs, is there anything in the application that will allow me to rip them again in a way that results in similar volume levels between the mp3s from different CDs? If the answer to either of these questions is "yes", would it be possible to get step by step instructions on how to effect the desired result? Thanks in advance for your assistance.

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          • xoas
            dBpoweramp Guru

            • Apr 2002
            • 2662

            #6
            Re: Normalizing Tracks

            A documentation file that explained each of these effects and their use would be useful.
            This file can be found in the dMC Help file (Start>All Programs>dBpowerAMP Music Converter>Help>dBpowerAMP Music Converter Help).

            As to fixes to your problem, some audio players offer features that correct (to a greater or lesser extent) the problem of disparate track volumes on playback. I find the AutoVolume boost feature in the dBpowerAMP Audio Player (dAP) very useful in this regard.

            Still it is probably better to try to prevent the problem in the first place. You could re-convert your existing mp3 files using Adaptive Normalization but you will have some loss of audio quality from your mp3 files if you do this. This may not be a significant issue for you (try it and see if there's a difference for you). From a quality standpoint it would be better to re-rip your cd's. I am generally pleased with Simple Normalization at the default setting but Adaptive Normalization will do a better job overall for particularly "tricky" tracks. I think you will find the Help files useful.

            Best wishes,
            Bill Mikkelsen

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            • shdanfo

              • Aug 2004
              • 2

              #7
              Re: Normalizing Tracks

              I don't know how I missed the documentation, but your guidance got me there. It looks like I might be able to use Volume Quieten on the mp3s from the louder CDs to fix them.

              Thanks, Bill.

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              • petriburg
                dBpoweramp Enthusiast

                • Apr 2002
                • 172

                #8
                Re: Normalizing Tracks

                For some time now, I have been using mp3gain - a small application which will do exactly what the user requires in terms of adjusting the gain of each track to a preset decibel level (up or down). It does not affect quality of sound.
                Those interested can find mp3gain at:

                It's free !

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                • ChristinaS
                  dBpoweramp Guru

                  • Apr 2004
                  • 4097

                  #9
                  Re: Normalizing Tracks

                  I have used occasionally Volume normalize either from dMC or from other applications. I have noticed that especially when converting MIDI to WAV (dMC Auxiliary Input as well as midi composition programs that create an audio mixdown), some particular instruments become louder than what they were meant to be, especially when taken together with the rest of the midi tracks. I have generally opted for no volume normalization in respect to the audio obtained from a MIDI conversion.

                  I have for instance a midi file where there's a faint church bell in the background. It's meant to be faint, other concurrent instruments are quite a lot louder. If I normalize the volume of the wav file (as it is being captured), those church bells toll really loud. Not the desired effect to be sure.

                  I haven't particularly noticed this behaviour when applying the Volume Normalize function to an already created audio file.

                  So all that to say that Volume normalization may not always be indicated, as it may distort some sounds. It's always best to listen to both the normalized and the un-normalized file and decide.

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                  • savagcl
                    dBpoweramp Guru

                    • Aug 2004
                    • 439

                    #10
                    Re: Normalizing Tracks

                    Hey, Thanks for the mp3gain, works great.
                    Cant tell any difference in the quality and i havent had to touch the
                    volume once. I did a small test then a total of 245 mp3's and they
                    are great. Now i can create some cd's.

                    The site id you posted didnt work, but google did.

                    savagcl

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                    • petriburg
                      dBpoweramp Enthusiast

                      • Apr 2002
                      • 172

                      #11
                      Re: Normalizing Tracks

                      Sorry, shdanfo - the url I posted above was a direct copy of that listed under 'help' in my installed version of mp3gain. He has since updated his website, with a similar(but not exactly) url. Here it is, and as strongly recommended as ever: http://mp3gain.sourceforge.net/download.php
                      This one works - I just tried it from my post preview! Happy listening, everybody.

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