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  • TLM2

    • Dec 2008
    • 1

    Album Art also copied when converting

    Hi

    I have ripped my CD-collection into FLAC with dbPoweramp to be used on a Squeezebox system. It works perfect.

    To make the music avaibel for all the transportabel players in the house, I have also converted all my FALC files into MP3. So fare so good, but there is one problem. The album art (cover.jpg) that is with each album folder (in my FLAC-files) are NOT "carried" over to the new MP3-lib. Is there some kind of setting in the music converter that will allow this ??.
    I have about 500 albums, so drag-and-drop is not really an option. I don't mind doing the FALC-MP3 conversion again if it will fix the album art issue.(took something like 16 hours on a AMD BE-2350).

    Thomas
  • Spoon
    Administrator
    • Apr 2002
    • 44575

    #2
    Re: Album Art also copied when converting

    Use the DSP effect 'ID Tag Processing' (when reconverting) and select the option to import and export the Folder.jpg

    [the latest version in the beta section of this forum allows cover.jpg to be selected]
    Spoon
    www.dbpoweramp.com

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    • a.wright

      • Jan 2008
      • 49

      #3
      Re: Album Art also copied when converting

      I am now well underway with my project of creating a complete digital music library and I have to say the software (reference package) is working just about pefectly.

      However I am having this same issue with copying album art, even when using the 'ID Tag Processing' DSP effect. Vista seems intent on just creating a default 200x200, heavily compressed (about 7k) hidden folder.jpg file in the newly created directory and my lovely 600x600 versions get left behind...

      Is there something I might be doing wrong?

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      • Spoon
        Administrator
        • Apr 2002
        • 44575

        #4
        Re: Album Art also copied when converting

        That is Windows Media Player automatically doing that, I am sure you can stop it by disabling some service or other.
        Spoon
        www.dbpoweramp.com

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        • a.wright

          • Jan 2008
          • 49

          #5
          Re: Album Art also copied when converting

          I guessed that was probably the case but just wanted to check in case I has missed anything.

          Thanks

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          • RonM
            dBpoweramp Enthusiast

            • Nov 2008
            • 105

            #6
            Re: Album Art also copied when converting

            I've been using batch convert for the same purpose. Converting 10k tracks from a lossless format (in my case, WMA lossless being used for a Squeezebox setup) to smaller lossy format for use on mobile devices. These conversions are to a folder not monitored by WMP. I did the conversion and lost all the album art and was pondering manually copying the folder.jpg files, one by one, for each album. This is a long process.

            I'm new to dbp, so maybe I'm missing something -- but I don't see the ID Tag Processing - DSP effect in the batch converting dialog. If I could find it, I'd just reconvert everything in order to capture the album art file. Or is this a setting you set somewhere else and it applies to batch processing?

            R.

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            • LtData
              dBpoweramp Guru

              • May 2004
              • 8288

              #7
              Re: Album Art also copied when converting

              After you pick your files and tell it to convert, the window that pops up where you pick the codec and settings you want to use when encoding, you have a DSP section at the bottom of the window.

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              • RonM
                dBpoweramp Enthusiast

                • Nov 2008
                • 105

                #8
                Re: Album Art also copied when converting

                Okay, found it, you don't see the dialog until after you click "convert".

                R.

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                • RonM
                  dBpoweramp Enthusiast

                  • Nov 2008
                  • 105

                  #9
                  Re: Album Art also copied when converting

                  Well, I thought I found it. I used the dialog to specify import album art (as folder.jpg) and export album art (as folder.jpg). This folder exists in the source folder. I set both fields, as it wasn't completely clear which one I should use to move the folder.jpg from the source to the target.

                  The conversion did NOT result in folder.jpg appearing in the target folder. Conversion worked fine, but not the transfer of the album art.

                  R.

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                  • Spoon
                    Administrator
                    • Apr 2002
                    • 44575

                    #10
                    Re: Album Art also copied when converting

                    Make sure you are using the DSP effect 'ID Tag Processing' and convert the files again, you cannot use a utility codec with any DSP Effects.
                    Spoon
                    www.dbpoweramp.com

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                    • MusicTrax

                      • Feb 2007
                      • 37

                      #11
                      Re: Album Art also copied when converting

                      Originally posted by Spoon
                      Make sure you are using the DSP effect 'ID Tag Processing' and convert the files again, you cannot use a utility codec with any DSP Effects.
                      I'm confused. Why would you lump this feature in the "DSP Effect" category? What do ID Tags have to do with sound?

                      You really ought to rethink this and put this in the metadata part of the program. There should be an automatic way for dMC to reliably remap every tag to the right place, regardless of destination format. If a human can do it manually, the program should be able to do it automatically. And that includes the album art.

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                      • Spoon
                        Administrator
                        • Apr 2002
                        • 44575

                        #12
                        Re: Album Art also copied when converting

                        >There should be an automatic way for dMC to reliably remap every tag to the right place

                        dBpoweramp does, but the definition of 'right' place changes from person to person (such as Album artist in flac, there are 3 standards...)

                        It has nothing to do with sound, just that DSP Effects (and Manipulations as it is labled in Music Converter) are powerful enough to do more than alter the audio.
                        Spoon
                        www.dbpoweramp.com

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                        • LtData
                          dBpoweramp Guru

                          • May 2004
                          • 8288

                          #13
                          Re: Album Art also copied when converting

                          In regards to the album art, if you right-click on the file and go to properties then to the "Audio Properties" tab, does it show the album art in the top left of that window?

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                          • RonM
                            dBpoweramp Enthusiast

                            • Nov 2008
                            • 105

                            #14
                            Re: Album Art also copied when converting

                            Originally posted by Spoon
                            Make sure you are using the DSP effect 'ID Tag Processing' and convert the files again, you cannot use a utility codec with any DSP Effects.
                            That's exactly what I did (DSP effect 'ID Tag Processing', appropriately configured as far as I can tell) -- folder.jpg did NOT get copied to the folder with the converted tracks.

                            Note that this is from the Batch Processing function, but the DSP effect dialogue is still available so should work.

                            R.

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                            • RonM
                              dBpoweramp Enthusiast

                              • Nov 2008
                              • 105

                              #15
                              Re: Album Art also copied when converting

                              Originally posted by LtData
                              In regards to the album art, if you right-click on the file and go to properties then to the "Audio Properties" tab, does it show the album art in the top left of that window?
                              Well, that was a good suggestion. I had expected the folder.jpg to appear in the target folder, and when it didn't just assumed that the transfer didn't happen. But when I looked at audio properties, there it was.

                              When I forced a play in WMP, it correctly displayed the artwork, and when I looked back in the folder it had created folder.jpg and one of the WMP's proprietarially (?) named files.

                              Thank you thank you.

                              What would be really helpful would be a post (preferably saved as a sticky) that did a full review of the album art functions, as realized in WMP and other applications. This would include images embedded in track files, images as "folder.jpg" and whether an application can pick up the art from that, etc. I'm confused.

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