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  • mustang65

    • Jul 2008
    • 2

    #1

    dmc converts to 'joint stereo' NOT 'stereo'

    Using the dbpoweramp Music Converter r13- converting to mp3 with Lame, with 2 'stereo' selected -- the files are encoded as 'joint stereo' instead of 'stereo'.... any ideas??? The previous r12.3 did not do this, but the new r13 does. Please advise.
  • LtData
    dBpoweramp Supporter
    • May 2004
    • 8288

    #2
    Re: dmc converts to 'joint stereo' NOT 'stereo'

    Try choosing "2 dual channels", that should give you stereo. Do note that joint stereo will give you better quality files, though.
    Lt. Data

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    • LowWaterMark

      • Jun 2008
      • 7

      #3
      Re: dmc converts to 'joint stereo' NOT 'stereo'

      I'm confused as to what joint stereo is. Is is a software sim of a crossfeed filter? Please fill me in.

      Take Care,
      -LWM
      Last edited by LowWaterMark; July 21, 2008, 08:48 AM. Reason: typo

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      • Spoon
        Administrator
        • Apr 2002
        • 45553

        #4
        Re: dmc converts to 'joint stereo' NOT 'stereo'

        It is where the encoder makes savings from the similarities from the stereo signal, these savings can then be used to create higher quality encodings.
        Spoon
        www.dbpoweramp.com

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        • LtData
          dBpoweramp Supporter
          • May 2004
          • 8288

          #5
          Re: dmc converts to 'joint stereo' NOT 'stereo'

          Read this excellent article I found via hydrogenaudio: http://home.freeuk.net/mostync/
          Lt. Data

          [URL="http://forum.dbpoweramp.com/showthread.php?t=13091"]Need to find your version?[/url]
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          • bhoar
            dBpoweramp Supporter
            • Sep 2006
            • 1173

            #6
            Re: dmc converts to 'joint stereo' NOT 'stereo'

            Originally posted by LtData
            Read this excellent article I found via hydrogenaudio: http://home.freeuk.net/mostync/
            Also, at the hydrogenaudio wiki: http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index....e=Joint_stereo

            -brendan
            I'm documenting duplicator robots and autoloaders.
            URL: [url]http://hyperdiscs.pbwiki.com/[/url]
            email: brendan|hoar+gmail|com ... replace both '|' with '.' and also '+' with '@'.

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            • mustang65

              • Jul 2008
              • 2

              #7
              Re: dmc converts to 'joint stereo' NOT 'stereo'

              Originally posted by LtData
              Try choosing "2 dual channels", that should give you stereo. Do note that joint stereo will give you better quality files, though.
              I tried "2 dual channels" -- results = dual channel mode / Any ideas why-how the 'stereo' mode doesn't provide stereo mode?

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              • bhoar
                dBpoweramp Supporter
                • Sep 2006
                • 1173

                #8
                Re: dmc converts to 'joint stereo' NOT 'stereo'

                Originally posted by mustang65
                I tried "2 dual channels" -- results = dual channel mode / Any ideas why-how the 'stereo' mode doesn't provide stereo mode?
                Did you read the links? The standard "Stereo" mode (the optimal setting) for LAME uses "Joint Stereo" which decides on a frame-by-frame basis whether the data is best represented as two unrelated channels or a mid-side transformation. Note that both methods are "stereo".

                Forcing the settings to always use the two unrelated channels will result in lower-quality files at the same bit rate.

                Assuming we're talking about 96kbit or higher bitrates.

                -brendan
                I'm documenting duplicator robots and autoloaders.
                URL: [url]http://hyperdiscs.pbwiki.com/[/url]
                email: brendan|hoar+gmail|com ... replace both '|' with '.' and also '+' with '@'.

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