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  • Magnus_CA
    dBpoweramp Supporter
    • Sep 2007
    • 47

    #1

    General ripping strategy question

    Is secure mode necessary for a large percentage of a typical person's cd collection? I don't keep my cd's wrapped in individual pillows but I don't play hockey with them either. It's taking me just over 22 minutes to rip an hour and fifteen minute long cd in secure mode to flac.

    Is AccurateRip and burstmode enough to ensure skip-free playback? Can't I (theoretically) go back and re-rip in Secure mode (or Ultra-secure mode) if the AccurateRip results don't match up?
    Last edited by Magnus_CA; September 25, 2007, 06:00 AM.
  • Magnus_CA
    dBpoweramp Supporter
    • Sep 2007
    • 47

    #2
    Re: General ripping strategy question

    Upon further investigation even burstmode is ALSO taking over 22 minutes! Perhaps this is induced by the flac encoding engine? Should I be looking into the beta version of Flac 1.2.1?

    Shouldn't burst mode take a fraction of the time that secure mode would take to complete? Or does Secure mode take significantly take longer if it's trying to recover errors?
    Last edited by Magnus_CA; September 25, 2007, 07:10 AM.

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    • LtData
      dBpoweramp Supporter
      • May 2004
      • 8288

      #3
      Re: General ripping strategy question

      You could try the beta based on FLAC 1.2.0, yes. Also, what encoding settings are you using for FLAC? If you just rip to WAV, how long does it take? Again, is the drive an internal drive or an external drive?
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      • Magnus_CA
        dBpoweramp Supporter
        • Sep 2007
        • 47

        #4
        Re: General ripping strategy question

        Originally posted by LtData
        You could try the beta based on FLAC 1.2.0, yes. Also, what encoding settings are you using for FLAC? If you just rip to WAV, how long does it take? Again, is the drive an internal drive or an external drive?
        I haven't tried ripping to WAV...I'll have to try later tonight.

        I'm using compression level 5.

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        • neilthecellist
          dBpoweramp Supporter
          • Dec 2004
          • 1288

          #5
          Re: General ripping strategy question

          Originally posted by Magnus_CA
          I haven't tried ripping to WAV...I'll have to try later tonight.

          I'm using compression level 5.
          Well, first off, what kind of processor / speed of processor do you have? Also, if I'm not mistaken, compression level 5 should take the longest (or is that level 1? correct me if i'm wrong)
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          • Launfal

            • May 2005
            • 12

            #6
            Re: General ripping strategy question

            Originally posted by neilthecellist
            Well, first off, what kind of processor / speed of processor do you have? Also, if I'm not mistaken, compression level 5 should take the longest (or is that level 1? correct me if i'm wrong)
            8 takes the longest. 0, the shortest. 5 is the default.

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            • Magnus_CA
              dBpoweramp Supporter
              • Sep 2007
              • 47

              #7
              Re: General ripping strategy question

              Thanks for all the replies everyone.

              My PC is probably already due for an upgrade...

              Athlon 64 3000+ 1.81 GHz
              1 GB RAM
              Sony CD-RW CRX230EE

              It took 3 min 45 sec to process the same CD from above into an uncompressed WAV.

              I also tried encoding the same set of flacs in burst mode with level 0 compression. It took 14 minutes.

              It's really going to suck if I have to upgrade my processor to cut my ripping time...that's one expense I didn't account for.
              Last edited by Magnus_CA; September 26, 2007, 05:40 AM.

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              • bhoar
                dBpoweramp Supporter
                • Sep 2006
                • 1173

                #8
                Re: General ripping strategy question

                That athlon isn't old enough to be showing such a huge slowdown in FLAC encoding. FLAC isn't a particularly intensive codec. You've got enough RAM too. I wonder if something *else* is eating CPU on your machine that the codec is competing with.

                -brendan
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                URL: [url]http://hyperdiscs.pbwiki.com/[/url]
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                • LtData
                  dBpoweramp Supporter
                  • May 2004
                  • 8288

                  #9
                  Re: General ripping strategy question

                  What about encoding to mp3 or WMA? What about another compressed lossless format, like Monkey's Audio or WavPack?
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                  • Magnus_CA
                    dBpoweramp Supporter
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 47

                    #10
                    Re: General ripping strategy question

                    Originally posted by bhoar
                    That athlon isn't old enough to be showing such a huge slowdown in FLAC encoding. FLAC isn't a particularly intensive codec. You've got enough RAM too. I wonder if something *else* is eating CPU on your machine that the codec is competing with.

                    -brendan
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                    • Magnus_CA
                      dBpoweramp Supporter
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 47

                      #11
                      Re: General ripping strategy question

                      Originally posted by LtData
                      What about encoding to mp3 or WMA? What about another compressed lossless format, like Monkey's Audio or WavPack?
                      I'll give it a try.

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                      • Magnus_CA
                        dBpoweramp Supporter
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 47

                        #12
                        Re: General ripping strategy question

                        Originally posted by bhoar
                        That athlon isn't old enough to be showing such a huge slowdown in FLAC encoding. FLAC isn't a particularly intensive codec. You've got enough RAM too. I wonder if something *else* is eating CPU on your machine that the codec is competing with.

                        -brendan
                        I'm pretty good about disabling backup programs so I'd be surprised if it was a system resources issue. I know stepping up to an Athlon X2 will help but it's weird the way it gets stuck at 99% and doesn't begin ripping the next song until a minute later. I would hate to have to reinstall XP to get the encoding time down.

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                        • bhoar
                          dBpoweramp Supporter
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 1173

                          #13
                          Re: General ripping strategy question

                          Originally posted by Magnus_CA
                          I'm pretty good about disabling backup programs so I'd be surprised if it was a system resources issue. I know stepping up to an Athlon X2 will help but it's weird the way it gets stuck at 99% and doesn't begin ripping the next song until a minute later. I would hate to have to reinstall XP to get the encoding time down.
                          I'd use the task manager, or better yet Process Explorer, to watch for high CPU or high IO rates by other processes during your rip sessions.

                          -brendan
                          I'm documenting duplicator robots and autoloaders.
                          URL: [url]http://hyperdiscs.pbwiki.com/[/url]
                          email: brendan|hoar+gmail|com ... replace both '|' with '.' and also '+' with '@'.

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                          • LtData
                            dBpoweramp Supporter
                            • May 2004
                            • 8288

                            #14
                            Re: General ripping strategy question

                            To double-check, you are ripping to an internal hard drive, correct, NOT an external or network drive?
                            Lt. Data

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                            • Magnus_CA
                              dBpoweramp Supporter
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 47

                              #15
                              Re: General ripping strategy question

                              Originally posted by LtData
                              To double-check, you are ripping to an internal hard drive, correct, NOT an external or network drive?
                              I am ripping to a NAS.

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