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  • danmacduff

    • Sep 2007
    • 6

    WMP 11 doesn't read dbpoweramp track #'s

    After I rip a cd, the file appears in my music folder with the track # and title, as I have it set up to do. However, when WMP 11(Vista Home Premium) reads the file, it doesn't see the track #, so it scrambles the order of the tracks. In files WMP has ripped, there is no "track" field, just a "name" field which appears to include the track # and title. How can I get the two programs to read the same data the same way? I have to use WMP to sync to the portable media center I have. Thanks.
    Last edited by danmacduff; September 01, 2007, 09:23 PM. Reason: more info
  • LtData
    dBpoweramp Guru

    • May 2004
    • 8288

    #2
    Re: WMP 11 doesn't read dbpoweramp track #'s

    Moved to dMC Support.
    What are your track numbers currently written as? Close to 1/12 or so? If you change the track number to just "1" does WMP recognize it now?

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    • danmacduff

      • Sep 2007
      • 6

      #3
      Re: WMP 11 doesn't read dbpoweramp track #'s

      Originally posted by LtData
      Moved to dMC Support.
      What are your track numbers currently written as? Close to 1/12 or so? If you change the track number to just "1" does WMP recognize it now?
      All track numbers are written as "0". This means that after ripping a few CD's, I just have a jumble of music files with"o" as their track numbers. In my music folder, the files look fine, a track number, a couple of spaces and the track title; but WMP 11 isn't reading the numbers when it indexes the folder's contents. It doesn't see any thing that it recognizes as a track number, even though the files look identical to files ripped by WMP. Thanks for the response. I've been going nuts over this.

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      • Spoon
        Administrator
        • Apr 2002
        • 44575

        #4
        Re: WMP 11 doesn't read dbpoweramp track #'s

        Hold the mouse over one of the files, dBpoweramp will show if there are any track numbers in the popup.

        What are you ripping to? WMA?
        Spoon
        www.dbpoweramp.com

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        • danmacduff

          • Sep 2007
          • 6

          #5
          Re: WMP 11 doesn't read dbpoweramp track #'s

          Originally posted by Spoon
          Hold the mouse over one of the files, dBpoweramp will show if there are any track numbers in the popup.

          What are you ripping to? WMA?
          Hmmm. NO track #'s in the popups!#@@#$!! For simplicity, I have the output set to: [track] [title], but the same thing happened when it was still on "default." I'm ripping to WAV, for best quality. Thanks

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          • LtData
            dBpoweramp Guru

            • May 2004
            • 8288

            #6
            Re: WMP 11 doesn't read dbpoweramp track #'s

            What version of dMC are you using?

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            • danmacduff

              • Sep 2007
              • 6

              #7
              Re: WMP 11 doesn't read dbpoweramp track #'s

              Originally posted by LtData
              What version of dMC are you using?
              I have v12.3. Just downloaded (and reo-downloaded) it a couple of evenings ago.

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              • Spoon
                Administrator
                • Apr 2002
                • 44575

                #8
                Re: WMP 11 doesn't read dbpoweramp track #'s

                Wav is very limited to the ID Tags it can contain and to progams which can read them, use a different format.
                Spoon
                www.dbpoweramp.com

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                • danmacduff

                  • Sep 2007
                  • 6

                  #9
                  Re: WMP 11 doesn't read dbpoweramp track #'s

                  Originally posted by Spoon
                  Wav is very limited to the ID Tags it can contain and to progams which can read them, use a different format.
                  that's too bad. I really like your program! What I want to do is make the highest quality possible of all of my CD's, then stream them to Transporter. dBpoweramp is the best one I've seen that allows a lot of customization, e.g., slow WAV capture. I get just what I need for the Transporter, but I guess I'll have to make a second copy of anything I want to sync to my portable player. I should have known better than to buy a player with a Microsoft OS!!@#@#@#!! :vmad: Thanks for your help.

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                  • LtData
                    dBpoweramp Guru

                    • May 2004
                    • 8288

                    #10
                    Re: WMP 11 doesn't read dbpoweramp track #'s

                    What is the "Transporter" you speak of? Can another lossless format work, such as WMA Lossless mabye?

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                    • tubes-n-horns

                      • Jul 2007
                      • 7

                      #11
                      Re: WMP 11 doesn't read dbpoweramp track #'s

                      Originally posted by danmacduff
                      that's too bad. I really like your program! What I want to do is make the highest quality possible of all of my CD's, then stream them to Transporter. dBpoweramp is the best one I've seen that allows a lot of customization, e.g., slow WAV capture. I get just what I need for the Transporter, but I guess I'll have to make a second copy of anything I want to sync to my portable player. I should have known better than to buy a player with a Microsoft OS!!@#@#@#!! :vmad: Thanks for your help.
                      Don't blame it on the player; it is well known in the digital audio circles that WAV does not support tagging very well, if at all. You should read up on lossless compression, and try to warm up to the fact that you (arguably) retain all the data using a good lossless compression CODEC, FLAC for instance. Your Transporter will work very well with FLAC files, as well as a few other lossless CODECs. Plus, you will save some hard drive space. The hard-core audiphiles will argue the point, and it sounds like you may be in that crowd.

                      BTW, good luck with your Transporter. I just sent back my Squeezebox 3; I experienced intermittent and dropped connections, display freezes, and total lockups. I am taking advantage of their 30-Day Satisfaction Guarantee; I was not satisfied.

                      Rick

                      Edit - Sorry, I did not read your post thoroughly, and now I see that your main complaint is having to make duplicate copies, the extra for your portable player. This is what I have to do, and I don't see it as a huge issue. In my experience, dMC is very good and fast at converting files to virtually whatever format you desire. Presently I am ripping lossless FLAC to the hard drive for home use, then I convert to high quality MP3 for the portable. Takes about two minutes to convert and copy an average size album to the player. I think 320kbps is very good quality for a portable. (your player may support higher rates) And at that rate, you are less than 25% of original file size, which is also good for portables, at least for mine.

                      I do not use sync with my player. I would not want my entire library on the player; not that it would even come close to holding all of it. I connect to the player as just another drive letter, and copy/delete files manually. I do not go through the media player.

                      I am rambling on...shutting up now.

                      Rick
                      Last edited by tubes-n-horns; September 04, 2007, 03:04 AM.

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                      • danmacduff

                        • Sep 2007
                        • 6

                        #12
                        Re: WMP 11 doesn't read dbpoweramp track #'s

                        Originally posted by tubes-n-horns
                        Don't blame it on the player; it is well known in the digital audio circles that WAV does not support tagging very well, if at all. You should read up on lossless compression, and try to warm up to the fact that you (arguably) retain all the data using a good lossless compression CODEC, FLAC for instance. Your Transporter will work very well with FLAC files, as well as a few other lossless CODECs. Plus, you will save some hard drive space. The hard-core audiphiles will argue the point, and it sounds like you may be in that crowd.

                        BTW, good luck with your Transporter. I just sent back my Squeezebox 3; I experienced intermittent and dropped connections, display freezes, and total lockups. I am taking advantage of their 30-Day Satisfaction Guarantee; I was not satisfied.

                        Rick

                        Edit - Sorry, I did not read your post thoroughly, and now I see that your main complaint is having to make duplicate copies, the extra for your portable player. This is what I have to do, and I don't see it as a huge issue. In my experience, dMC is very good and fast at converting files to virtually whatever format you desire. Presently I am ripping lossless FLAC to the hard drive for home use, then I convert to high quality MP3 for the portable. Takes about two minutes to convert and copy an average size album to the player. I think 320kbps is very good quality for a portable. (your player may support higher rates) And at that rate, you are less than 25% of original file size, which is also good for portables, at least for mine.

                        I do not use sync with my player. I would not want my entire library on the player; not that it would even come close to holding all of it. I connect to the player as just another drive letter, and copy/delete files manually. I do not go through the media player.

                        I am rambling on...shutting up now.

                        Rick
                        Actually, I love my Squeezebox; it's going into my bedroom as soon as the Transporter is delivered tomorrow. And, yes, I do want uncompressed music; I have a pretty good system and you can really tell the difference between WAV files and "lossless" compressed files. The new portable I have can't be loaded by drag and drop. The only way to get the music onto the device in any kind of order is by syncing through WMP. (A blessing of the MS Windows Portable MP.) I'm sending the device back where it came from. I'll stick with my Creative Zen player which works right. I don't know what I was thinking. Thanks for the replies.

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                        • Spoon
                          Administrator
                          • Apr 2002
                          • 44575

                          #13
                          Re: WMP 11 doesn't read dbpoweramp track #'s

                          >I have a pretty good system and you can really tell the difference between WAV files and "lossless" compressed files.

                          Lossless are just that, lossless, they decompress 100% identicle to wave.
                          Spoon
                          www.dbpoweramp.com

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                          • LtData
                            dBpoweramp Guru

                            • May 2004
                            • 8288

                            #14
                            Re: WMP 11 doesn't read dbpoweramp track #'s

                            In my opinion, people that can "tell a difference" between lossless and WAV files are the same people that can tell when their video game is running below 100fps: it's a placebo effect. In blind ABX tests, I would guess that you wouldn't be able to differentiate between the lossless and WAV files.

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                            • bhoar
                              dBpoweramp Guru

                              • Sep 2006
                              • 1173

                              #15
                              Re: WMP 11 doesn't read dbpoweramp track #'s

                              Originally posted by danmacduff
                              And, yes, I do want uncompressed music; I have a pretty good system and you can really tell the difference between WAV files and "lossless" compressed files.
                              Lossless is just like ZIP for WAV files in that what goes in comes out exactly the same: more specifically the exact same data is going to be fed to your D/A converters, regardless of using WAV, FLAC, ALAC, etc. If you hear a difference, it's either entirely in your head (psychological) or there's a software bug in the playback chain somewhere.

                              -brendan

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