I'm having problems using R12 ref and could use some help

[sliver]

Hi, I've been a happy user of 11.5 for a long time and when r12 was released I promptly upgraded. When I realized that I wanted the all media guide, I jumped to reference.

Maybe I've jumped over my head, but r12 ref. is not working for me at this time. I'm sure it will, eventually, but perhaps I was a little impulsive.
Computer is Pentium D 830, 1GB ram, XP Pro

I rip a lot of audiobooks on CD to 9.2 wma, usually 32kbs, 32kHz, CBR mono.
I would use the voice codec, but some of my "mp3" players don't support it.

First, I have looked everywhere and I cannot find the "rip as one" option, which is one of the things that brought me to dbpowerAMP in the first place.

Second, Apparently the all media guide does not include audiobooks--or I don't know how to querry it.

Third, When I set up my rip, (and I really like the ability to set bitrate, frequency, and mono/stereo independently), it hits each track and just returns an error.

I changed the codec to MP3, and was able to sucessfully do a rip. But I couldn't find a place to set "mono" for this codec. (And no rip as one).


I would like to do more sophisticated and intelligent work with compressed audio, so I am sure the features of R12 ref will be great for me eventually. I am dissapointed that I couldn't move my "normal" work to R12. I'm usually pretty good at this stuff and I feeling a little stupid at this time.

Thanks,

Steve

P.S. Flame on. There is no issue of DRM encumbered files. I don't have any. I don't use them. I won't buy them. In my opinion it is a scam. Ten years from now millions of people will have millions of dollars worth of useless protected files.
Flame off

[LtData]

Re: I'm having problems using R12 ref and could use some help

Rip As One has been removed in r12 and won't be back until r13.

Channels and frequency for mp3 is under the "Advanced" button on the mp3 settings page.

[sliver]

Re: I'm having problems using R12 ref and could use some help

Thanks for the prompt reply.

I am VERY disappointed! I am at a loss to understand why "rip as one" would be removed. IMHO it seemed to be a core feature, at least for those of us who frequently rip audiobooks. "Rip as one" was the feature that "sold" me on dbpowerAMP--although after I started to use it I appreciated its many other excellent features. I wouldn't think this was a difficult or complex feature. Is there a chance that Spoon can be persuaded to put it back in.

I'm feeling very foolish. I charged ahead and did not take advantage of the trial periods, because I was so pleased with 11.5. I didn't imagine that I would lose something major and crucial like "rip as one".

To accommodate lame CD players, audiobook publishers put tracks as often as every three minutes. Even a medium sized book will be on 12 Cd's. With 25 files per disc, you are dealing with 300 files for one book. Keeping books with that many files makes it a constant chore to keep things from getting scrambled.

[LtData]

Re: I'm having problems using R12 ref and could use some help

I'm not sure about the complexity, but I believe Spoon was wanting to implement it with one large MP3 file and a cue sheet of some sort, so that media players would see little files but you would have one large file. However, due to time constraints, cue sheet support was pushed back to r13.

[sliver]

Re: I'm having problems using R12 ref and could use some help

I just read (in the HydrogenAudio Forum) about the cue sheet feature in process--which I can see would be cool and not trivial to implement. Have albums as a single file for manipulation, yet function as a set of tracks for the purpose of listening, such that playlists could pluck out a single track.

"Rip as One" as I need it for audiobooks is very mundane.

[jamesbaud]

Re: I'm having problems using R12 ref and could use some help

To accommodate lame CD players, audiobook publishers put tracks as often as every three minutes. Even a medium sized book will be on 12 Cd's. With 25 files per disc, you are dealing with 300 files for one book. Keeping books with that many files makes it a constant chore to keep things from getting scrambled.

I rip audiobooks too. I don't know how you have your software media player/hardware mp3 player set up, but I find it's easiest to put those 300 files on 1 playlist on the software player, then put the playlist (and files) on your mp3 player. Then play the tracks on the playlist. This way, things don't get messed up or "scrambled."

Also, I get very good results (good ratio for file size/quality) for audiobooks with -V 7 in LAME (I also check the box to "force ISO compatibility for hardware players).

[sliver]

Re: I'm having problems using R12 ref and could use some help

Jamesbaud,

I agree that's a good solution when you have too many files. I have used a playlist for this function many times. You still need to name files carefully. You get long filenames with too much space in Disc 07 of 17 Track 03 of 24. Lots of software gets very slow when your dealing with thousands of files -- and it dosn't take having very many books to get there.

I'm much happier with 1 file per disc. I have lots with the 300 plus files, and when I am ambitious I consolidate them.

I would have appreciated more concern for the needs of the audiobook ripper.

Steve

[Spoon]

Re: I'm having problems using R12 ref and could use some help

Follow the instructions on the legacy page:

http://dbpoweramp.com/legacy-compatibility.htm

Installing R11.5 registered, r11.5 codecs then R12 (to different folder) and R12 codecs, you can have Rip with One wih r11.5

[sliver]

Re: I'm having problems using R12 ref and could use some help

Thanks Spoon, I'll give that a try.
Do you have some estimate when R12+ with "rip as one" is expected?

[Wayne]

Re: I'm having problems using R12 ref and could use some help

It could be quite sometime before r13 appears as it will depend on the amount of work required to convert remaining codecs to r12 and to add r12 support into Sveta, dCW and dAP.