Metadata tags in CD Ripper not universally compatible.

[miggs]

The tag for Catalogue numbers and barcode in CD Ripper does seem to work across different apps. Other apps show these files as empty/blank.

CD Ripper uses - Catalog *(hash)
MusicBrainz uses - Catalogue Number
Audio Ranger uses - Catalogue Number
Swinsain uses - Catalogue Number
iTunes - doesn't recognise either. (stupid program stuck in the past, but works so well as a media player / organiser) Needs feature set brought into the 2020s.


CD Riper uses - UPC
MusicBrainz uses - Barcode
Audio Ranger - Barcode
Swinsain - Barcode
iTunes - doesn't recognise either. (stupid program stuck in the past, but works so well as a media player / organiser) Needs feature set brought into the 2020s.

Almost all other fields are the same across different apps.

How do I get Cd Ripper to save these tags as Catalogue Number & Barcode, instead of Catalog *(hash) & UPC?

It's annoying that I just discovered this after having already ripped over 700 albums. Now having to go back and edit all the metadata.

[miggs]

Re: Metadata tags in CD Ripper not universally compatible.

I tried the 'ID Tag Processing' DSP. That works, partly. If I rip to FLAC. It works for barcode, but not for Catalog Number. For Apple Lossless neither works.
I would prefer to use Apple Lossless, As I'm in an Apple household.

I can't seem to find a list of what tags are compatible with ALAC. Is there a list somewhere.

It shouldn't be this hard to make a files tags readable across different media programs.

[Spoon]

Re: Metadata tags in CD Ripper not universally compatible.

Generally speaking if iTunes cannot edit the tag in question then it does not exist for apple lossless.

[GBrown]

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I tried the 'ID Tag Processing' DSP. That works, partly. If I rip to FLAC. It works for barcode, but not for Catalog Number. For Apple Lossless neither works.
I would prefer to use Apple Lossless, As I'm in an Apple household.

I can't seem to find a list of what tags are compatible with ALAC. Is there a list somewhere.

It shouldn't be this hard to make a files tags readable across different media programs.

The problem isn't writing the tags to the file. Most tagging programs can write just about any field you wish to a m4a file.

It has more to do with the player. iTunes and the newer Apple Music apps have limited fields that they can show. Using the Get Info in iTunes will bring up a window that shows you what tags are available in iTunes. If you want to see your specific tag data using iTunes, you will have to work with one of those.

[Mike-B]

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I would think about moving away from Apple/iTunes.
I help someone thats locked into Apple and its the only place I find trouble with metadata & other ripping issues.
FLAC is trouble free & IMO the best easiest and most universal codec.

[GBrown]

Re: Metadata tags in CD Ripper not universally compatible.

I would think about moving away from Apple/iTunes.
I help someone thats locked into Apple and its the only place I find trouble with metadata & other ripping issues.
FLAC is trouble free & IMO the best easiest and most universal codec.

I have been using Apple products including iTunes, AppleTV, and iOS devices for almost as long as they have been available. Apple has purposely avoided FLAC support for some reason they have yet to disclose. Their lossless ALAC format is as close as it gets, and other than the checksum option essentially performs as well. There are no ripping or metadata issues if you use any of the reputable products like dbPoweramp, mp3tag, etc. And most Windows and Android apps now support the ALAC format. So for those that have a need for Apple compatibility this is the only way to go.

If you are not bound to the Apple environment, FLAC is absolutely more universally supported and has the benefit of the Checksum field.

Feel free to choose what works best for you.

[miggs]

Re: Metadata tags in CD Ripper not universally compatible.

Maybe if I say what I am aiming for. That would help to understand how to get to my endgame.

When looking for music to listen to, I prefer looking at my shelves full of over 2000 CDs, instead of endlessly scrolling on iTunes. When Ive chosen a CD to listen to, I&*8217;m hoping to search for the files by just scanning the barcode.

So the task is&*8230;
To find a media player that can read and display the barcode tag that can be embedded in ALAC & FLAC files. I prefer ALAC.

Also work out what tag to use, Barcode or UPC. As each media player reads different. There doesn't seem to be a set standard.

So instead of searching by artist or titles, I want to search by barcode. I have a handheld scanner for scanning the barcode into the search field of the media player.

Thanks Everyone.

[mville]

Re: Metadata tags in CD Ripper not universally compatible.

The tagging standards are a bit of a mess generally. The best thing to do is to pick your perfect player and work backwards.

I agree.

The problem is, is that there are no universal tagging standards in any lossless format. ID3 (for mp3) was as close to a standard that I have seen, but that format is becoming less and less relevant.

[miggs]

Re: Metadata tags in CD Ripper not universally compatible.

So, from what I can work out. The below fields work nearly universally.

Track Name
Album Name
Artist Name
Album Artist
Track Number
Disc Number
Year
Genre
Compilation Tag

Are there any others?

[miggs]

Re: Metadata tags in CD Ripper not universally compatible.

Yes, that's correct. Barcode is where it started. Ideally still trying to find a way to rip & tag with BARCODE included. I have just installed 10 media players, trying to experiment with both ALAC & FLAC. Some tagged with UPC, sone with BARCODE. I've ripped 4 ways. FLAC with UPC. FLAC with BARCODE. ALAC with UPC. ALAC with BARCODE.

I am just discovering that my understanding is full of flawed information. So I am taking it back to the beginning. Resetting what I think I know and understand.

MediaPlayers I'm testing...
AudioRanger
Audirvana
beaTunes
Doppler
DeaDBeeF
foobar2000
Apple Music / iTunes
Kodi
Musique
Plex
Swinsian
...plus a few others shortly.

Also what devices I'm using. AppleTV, MacMini, or Demon AVR UPnP.

I currently use Apple Music or PLEX. Depending on my mood. Lol. Very basic setup.