CD Ripper issue reading embedded ISRC info.

[miggs]

When CD ripper reads a disc that contains embedded ISRC...

If one of the tracks doesn't have an embedded ISRC. Then it will only display ISRCs up to that track. No further. Tracks after that are blank.

I have attached a screen shot of Cd Ripper and Win11 EZ CD Audio Converter.

Thanks.

[Spoon]

Re: CD Ripper issue reading embedded ISRC info.

Issue noted

[thexfile]

Re: CD Ripper issue reading embedded ISRC info.

I'm having a lot of no ISRC too.

[PeterP]

Re: CD Ripper issue reading embedded ISRC info.

Addressed in new build:

https://forum.dbpoweramp.com/showthread.php?50343-dBpoweramp-Music-Converter-for-Mac-OS-beta

[krafty]

Re: CD Ripper issue reading embedded ISRC info.

I can confirm this was an issue as well. I was thinking it was the media's fault, but actually it is not.
I had "Tears For Fears - The Seeds Of Love" UK and US versions. The UK version listed all the ISRC, but strangely the US missed about three tracks.
Now if I reload for the metadata I get all the ISRCs. Many thanks for this fix.

[krafty]

Re: CD Ripper issue reading embedded ISRC info.

Hello. I think the issue has not completely been addressed, at least with some CDs.
I have a-ha's Foot of the Mountain (this exact pressing).
EAC can detect all the ISRCs.

REM GENRE Pop
REM DATE 2009
REM DISCID 7B09910A
REM COMMENT "ExactAudioCopy v1.6"
CATALOG 0602527089980
PERFORMER "a-ha"
TITLE "Foot Of The Mountain"
REM COMPOSER "Various Composers"
FILE "01 - The Bandstand.wav" WAVE
  TRACK 01 AUDIO
    TITLE "The Bandstand"
    PERFORMER "a-ha"
    REM COMPOSER "Paul Waaktaar-Savoy; Magne Furuholmen"
    ISRC NOUM70900286
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 02 AUDIO
    TITLE "Riding The Crest"
    PERFORMER "a-ha"
    REM COMPOSER "Paul Waaktaar-Savoy; Magne Furuholmen"
    ISRC NOUM70900283
    INDEX 00 04:02:15
FILE "02 - Riding The Crest.wav" WAVE
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 03 AUDIO
    TITLE "What There Is"
    PERFORMER "a-ha"
    REM COMPOSER "Paul Waaktaar-Savoy; Magne Furuholmen"
    ISRC NOUM70900279
    INDEX 00 04:16:66
FILE "03 - What There Is.wav" WAVE
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 04 AUDIO
    TITLE "Foot Of The Mountain"
    PERFORMER "a-ha"
    REM COMPOSER "Paul Waaktaar-Savoy; Magne Furuholmen; Martin Terefe"
    ISRC NOUM70900248
    INDEX 00 03:42:48
FILE "04 - Foot Of The Mountain.wav" WAVE
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 05 AUDIO
    TITLE "Real Meaning"
    PERFORMER "a-ha"
    REM COMPOSER "Paul Waaktaar-Savoy; Magne Furuholmen"
    ISRC NOUM70900285
    INDEX 00 03:56:22
FILE "05 - Real Meaning.wav" WAVE
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 06 AUDIO
    TITLE "Shadowside"
    PERFORMER "a-ha"
    REM COMPOSER "Paul Waaktaar-Savoy"
    ISRC NOUM70900280
    INDEX 00 03:38:55
FILE "06 - Shadowside.wav" WAVE
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "07 - Nothing Is Keeping You Here.wav" WAVE
  TRACK 07 AUDIO
    TITLE "Nothing Is Keeping You Here"
    PERFORMER "a-ha"
    REM COMPOSER "Paul Waaktaar-Savoy"
    ISRC NOUM70900284
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 08 AUDIO
    TITLE "Mother Nature Goes To Heaven"
    PERFORMER "a-ha"
    REM COMPOSER "Paul Waaktaar-Savoy"
    ISRC NOUM70900287
    INDEX 00 03:16:55
FILE "08 - Mother Nature Goes To Heaven.wav" WAVE
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 09 AUDIO
    TITLE "Sunny Mystery"
    PERFORMER "a-ha"
    REM COMPOSER "Magne Furuholmen"
    ISRC NOUM70900281
    INDEX 00 04:07:63
FILE "09 - Sunny Mystery.wav" WAVE
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "10 - Start The Simulator.wav" WAVE
  TRACK 10 AUDIO
    TITLE "Start The Simulator"
    PERFORMER "a-ha"
    REM COMPOSER "Paul Waaktaar-Savoy"
    ISRC NOUM70900282
    INDEX 01 00:00:00

But dBpoweramp still not getting them all, after refreshes. Most of them are still missing. The other CDs I was having this issue, they worked alright.
Image from dBpoweramp: https://ibb.co/12SQxLV

Thanks.

[Spoon]

Re: CD Ripper issue reading embedded ISRC info.

Windows or OSX?

[miggs]

Re: CD Ripper issue reading embedded ISRC info.

I have also noticed that sometimes there is a reading error. It randomly displays the same ISRC for 2 consecutive tracks.
I'm using MacOS Sonoma.

[PeterP]

Re: CD Ripper issue reading embedded ISRC info.

There seem to be issues with ISRC data coming from the MusicBrainz database. I was able to confirm this with the A-Ha album linked above, by performing manual search with https://musicbrainz.org/release/a696...d-68fe97105f1f

To read ISRC directly from the disc, please click metadata button, then choose "Retrieve Metadata From / CD-ISRC". This will discard bad ISRC values and read directly from your disc.

[bring_back_78s]

Re: CD Ripper issue reading embedded ISRC info.

I have also noticed that sometimes there is a reading error. It randomly displays the same ISRC for 2 consecutive tracks.
I'm using MacOS Sonoma.

When using "Retrieve Metadata From / CD-ISRC", I have the same issue where the same ISRC is displayed for 2 consecutive tracks, once or twice on some CDs. EAC returns the correct ISRCs. So far it has happened on 4 out of 12 CDs. I'm on version 2023-10-10 (64 bit) on Windows 10

[krafty]

Re: CD Ripper issue reading embedded ISRC info.

Windows or OSX?

Windows 10.

It is working randomly.

I tested this pressing, and told the app to retrieve metadata from CD-ISRC. It worked very well, but it inserted hyphens - look here. EAC also retrived, but no hyphens:

REM GENRE Rock
REM DATE 2008
REM DISCID A00CBF0A
REM COMMENT "ExactAudioCopy v1.6"
PERFORMER "Joe Satriani"
TITLE "Professor Satchafunkilus And The Musterion Of Rock"
REM COMPOSER ""
FILE "01 - Musterion.wav" WAVE
  TRACK 01 AUDIO
    TITLE "Musterion"
    PERFORMER "Joe Satriani"
    REM COMPOSER ""
    ISRC USSM10800302
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 02 AUDIO
    TITLE "Overdriver"
    PERFORMER "Joe Satriani"
    REM COMPOSER ""
    ISRC USSM10800303
    INDEX 00 04:37:63
FILE "02 - Overdriver.wav" WAVE
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 03 AUDIO
    TITLE "I Just Wanna Rock"
    PERFORMER "Joe Satriani"
    REM COMPOSER ""
    ISRC USSM10800304
    INDEX 00 05:05:14
FILE "03 - I Just Wanna Rock.wav" WAVE
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 04 AUDIO
    TITLE "Professor Satchafunkilus"
    PERFORMER "Joe Satriani"
    REM COMPOSER ""
    ISRC USSM10800305
    INDEX 00 03:25:35
FILE "04 - Professor Satchafunkilus.wav" WAVE
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 05 AUDIO
    TITLE "Revelation"
    PERFORMER "Joe Satriani"
    REM COMPOSER ""
    ISRC USSM10800306
    INDEX 00 04:47:35
FILE "05 - Revelation.wav" WAVE
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 06 AUDIO
    TITLE "Come On Baby"
    PERFORMER "Joe Satriani"
    REM COMPOSER ""
    ISRC USSM10800307
    INDEX 00 05:55:28
FILE "06 - Come On Baby.wav" WAVE
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 07 AUDIO
    TITLE "Out Of The Sunrise"
    PERFORMER "Joe Satriani"
    REM COMPOSER ""
    ISRC USSM10800308
    INDEX 00 05:48:29
FILE "07 - Out Of The Sunrise.wav" WAVE
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 08 AUDIO
    TITLE "Diddle-Y-A-Doo-Dat"
    PERFORMER "Joe Satriani"
    REM COMPOSER ""
    ISRC USSM10800309
    INDEX 00 05:42:45
FILE "08 - Diddle-Y-A-Doo-Dat.wav" WAVE
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 09 AUDIO
    TITLE "Asik Vaysel"
    PERFORMER "Joe Satriani"
    REM COMPOSER ""
    ISRC USSM10800310
    INDEX 00 04:14:31
FILE "09 - Asik Vaysel.wav" WAVE
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "10 - Andalusia.wav" WAVE
  TRACK 10 AUDIO
    TITLE "Andalusia"
    PERFORMER "Joe Satriani"
    REM COMPOSER ""
    ISRC USSM10800311
    INDEX 01 00:00:00

But this particular pressing from Paul McCartney, is problematic. EAC can't read the ISRC (I think the disc might have none?)...

REM GENRE Rock
REM DATE 1989
REM DISCID CD0C950D
REM COMMENT "ExactAudioCopy v1.6"
CATALOG 0000000000000
PERFORMER "Paul McCartney"
TITLE "Flowers In The Dirt"
REM COMPOSER ""
FILE "01 - My Brave Face.wav" WAVE
  TRACK 01 AUDIO
    TITLE "My Brave Face"
    PERFORMER "Paul McCartney"
    REM COMPOSER ""
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 02 AUDIO
    TITLE "Rough Ride"
    PERFORMER "Paul McCartney"
    REM COMPOSER ""
    INDEX 00 03:17:57
FILE "02 - Rough Ride.wav" WAVE
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "03 - You Want Her Too.wav" WAVE
  TRACK 03 AUDIO
    TITLE "You Want Her Too"
    PERFORMER "Paul McCartney"
    REM COMPOSER ""
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 04 AUDIO
    TITLE "Distractions"
    PERFORMER "Paul McCartney"
    REM COMPOSER ""
    INDEX 00 03:11:73
FILE "04 - Distractions.wav" WAVE
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 05 AUDIO
    TITLE "We Got Married"
    PERFORMER "Paul McCartney"
    REM COMPOSER ""
    INDEX 00 04:38:72
FILE "05 - We Got Married.wav" WAVE
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "06 - Put It There.wav" WAVE
  TRACK 06 AUDIO
    TITLE "Put It There"
    PERFORMER "Paul McCartney"
    REM COMPOSER ""
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 07 AUDIO
    TITLE "Figure Of Eight"
    PERFORMER "Paul McCartney"
    REM COMPOSER ""
    INDEX 00 02:08:50
FILE "07 - Figure Of Eight.wav" WAVE
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 08 AUDIO
    TITLE "This One"
    PERFORMER "Paul McCartney"
    REM COMPOSER ""
    INDEX 00 03:24:67
FILE "08 - This One.wav" WAVE
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 09 AUDIO
    TITLE "Don't Be Careless Love"
    PERFORMER "Paul McCartney"
    REM COMPOSER ""
    INDEX 00 04:10:10
FILE "09 - Don't Be Careless Love.wav" WAVE
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 10 AUDIO
    TITLE "That Day Is Done"
    PERFORMER "Paul McCartney"
    REM COMPOSER ""
    INDEX 00 03:17:65
FILE "10 - That Day Is Done.wav" WAVE
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 11 AUDIO
    TITLE "How Many People"
    PERFORMER "Paul McCartney"
    REM COMPOSER ""
    INDEX 00 04:19:70
FILE "11 - How Many People.wav" WAVE
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 12 AUDIO
    TITLE "Motor Of Love"
    PERFORMER "Paul McCartney"
    REM COMPOSER ""
    INDEX 00 04:13:70
FILE "12 - Motor Of Love.wav" WAVE
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 13 AUDIO
    TITLE "Ou Est Le Soleil"
    PERFORMER "Paul McCartney"
    REM COMPOSER ""
    INDEX 00 06:19:07
FILE "13 - Ou Est Le Soleil.wav" WAVE
    INDEX 01 00:00:00

However, using the feature "Retrieve from CD-ISRC" returns only 3 values, and I guess it is not retrieving from the CD... but some other database.
Take a look here.

My understanding is that some releases don't have this damn code. And the software looks for it. When it has it, it retrieves. When it doesn't, EAC doesn't put it. And dBpoweramp tries, but eventually tries from a different database (which is incomplete). Is that understanding right?

[krafty]

Re: CD Ripper issue reading embedded ISRC info.

This forum has some hell of a buggy behaviour. I had tried to post and edit a long explanation on this, and somehow got automatically binned. I will try to explain tomorrow.

[Spoon]

Re: CD Ripper issue reading embedded ISRC info.

It went to moderation as you posted links.

[krafty]

Re: CD Ripper issue reading embedded ISRC info.

Right. So, I'm going to try again.

On the ISRC issue...

This pressing here, Joe Satriani "Professor Satchafunkilus..." - listed here in Discogs.

EAC is reading from CD-ISRC.

REM GENRE Rock
REM DATE 2008
REM DISCID A00CBF0A
REM COMMENT "ExactAudioCopy v1.6"
PERFORMER "Joe Satriani"
TITLE "Professor Satchafunkilus And The Musterion Of Rock"
REM COMPOSER ""
FILE "01 - Musterion.wav" WAVE
  TRACK 01 AUDIO
    TITLE "Musterion"
    PERFORMER "Joe Satriani"
    REM COMPOSER ""
    ISRC USSM10800302
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 02 AUDIO
    TITLE "Overdriver"
    PERFORMER "Joe Satriani"
    REM COMPOSER ""
    ISRC USSM10800303
    INDEX 00 04:37:63
FILE "02 - Overdriver.wav" WAVE
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 03 AUDIO
    TITLE "I Just Wanna Rock"
    PERFORMER "Joe Satriani"
    REM COMPOSER ""
    ISRC USSM10800304
    INDEX 00 05:05:14
FILE "03 - I Just Wanna Rock.wav" WAVE
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 04 AUDIO
    TITLE "Professor Satchafunkilus"
    PERFORMER "Joe Satriani"
    REM COMPOSER ""
    ISRC USSM10800305
    INDEX 00 03:25:35
FILE "04 - Professor Satchafunkilus.wav" WAVE
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 05 AUDIO
    TITLE "Revelation"
    PERFORMER "Joe Satriani"
    REM COMPOSER ""
    ISRC USSM10800306
    INDEX 00 04:47:35
FILE "05 - Revelation.wav" WAVE
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 06 AUDIO
    TITLE "Come On Baby"
    PERFORMER "Joe Satriani"
    REM COMPOSER ""
    ISRC USSM10800307
    INDEX 00 05:55:28
FILE "06 - Come On Baby.wav" WAVE
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 07 AUDIO
    TITLE "Out Of The Sunrise"
    PERFORMER "Joe Satriani"
    REM COMPOSER ""
    ISRC USSM10800308
    INDEX 00 05:48:29
FILE "07 - Out Of The Sunrise.wav" WAVE
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 08 AUDIO
    TITLE "Diddle-Y-A-Doo-Dat"
    PERFORMER "Joe Satriani"
    REM COMPOSER ""
    ISRC USSM10800309
    INDEX 00 05:42:45
FILE "08 - Diddle-Y-A-Doo-Dat.wav" WAVE
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 09 AUDIO
    TITLE "Asik Vaysel"
    PERFORMER "Joe Satriani"
    REM COMPOSER ""
    ISRC USSM10800310
    INDEX 00 04:14:31
FILE "09 - Asik Vaysel.wav" WAVE
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "10 - Andalusia.wav" WAVE
  TRACK 10 AUDIO
    TITLE "Andalusia"
    PERFORMER "Joe Satriani"
    REM COMPOSER ""
    ISRC USSM10800311
    INDEX 01 00:00:00

dBpoweramp doesn't find anything from the generic metadata providers, but reading from the "Metadata icon" -> "Retried Metadata From..." -> "CD-ISRC", it does work.

https://ibb.co/qMDcyrN

The strange thing is that dBpoweramp inserts hyphens when it does read directly from CD. This pressing is the kind of pressing that does not have the ISRC in any other metadata database. I'm not sure why the hyphens come, what is the standard?

Now this pressing, Paul McCartney "Flowers..." - listed here in Discogs.

Doesn't seem to have ISRC in the CD itself - EAC can't do it.

REM GENRE Rock
REM DATE 1989
REM DISCID CD0C950D
REM COMMENT "ExactAudioCopy v1.6"
CATALOG 0000000000000
PERFORMER "Paul McCartney"
TITLE "Flowers In The Dirt"
REM COMPOSER ""
FILE "01 - My Brave Face.wav" WAVE
  TRACK 01 AUDIO
    TITLE "My Brave Face"
    PERFORMER "Paul McCartney"
    REM COMPOSER ""
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 02 AUDIO
    TITLE "Rough Ride"
    PERFORMER "Paul McCartney"
    REM COMPOSER ""
    INDEX 00 03:17:57
FILE "02 - Rough Ride.wav" WAVE
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "03 - You Want Her Too.wav" WAVE
  TRACK 03 AUDIO
    TITLE "You Want Her Too"
    PERFORMER "Paul McCartney"
    REM COMPOSER ""
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 04 AUDIO
    TITLE "Distractions"
    PERFORMER "Paul McCartney"
    REM COMPOSER ""
    INDEX 00 03:11:73
FILE "04 - Distractions.wav" WAVE
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 05 AUDIO
    TITLE "We Got Married"
    PERFORMER "Paul McCartney"
    REM COMPOSER ""
    INDEX 00 04:38:72
FILE "05 - We Got Married.wav" WAVE
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "06 - Put It There.wav" WAVE
  TRACK 06 AUDIO
    TITLE "Put It There"
    PERFORMER "Paul McCartney"
    REM COMPOSER ""
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 07 AUDIO
    TITLE "Figure Of Eight"
    PERFORMER "Paul McCartney"
    REM COMPOSER ""
    INDEX 00 02:08:50
FILE "07 - Figure Of Eight.wav" WAVE
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 08 AUDIO
    TITLE "This One"
    PERFORMER "Paul McCartney"
    REM COMPOSER ""
    INDEX 00 03:24:67
FILE "08 - This One.wav" WAVE
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 09 AUDIO
    TITLE "Don't Be Careless Love"
    PERFORMER "Paul McCartney"
    REM COMPOSER ""
    INDEX 00 04:10:10
FILE "09 - Don't Be Careless Love.wav" WAVE
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 10 AUDIO
    TITLE "That Day Is Done"
    PERFORMER "Paul McCartney"
    REM COMPOSER ""
    INDEX 00 03:17:65
FILE "10 - That Day Is Done.wav" WAVE
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 11 AUDIO
    TITLE "How Many People"
    PERFORMER "Paul McCartney"
    REM COMPOSER ""
    INDEX 00 04:19:70
FILE "11 - How Many People.wav" WAVE
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 12 AUDIO
    TITLE "Motor Of Love"
    PERFORMER "Paul McCartney"
    REM COMPOSER ""
    INDEX 00 04:13:70
FILE "12 - Motor Of Love.wav" WAVE
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 13 AUDIO
    TITLE "Ou Est Le Soleil"
    PERFORMER "Paul McCartney"
    REM COMPOSER ""
    INDEX 00 06:19:07
FILE "13 - Ou Est Le Soleil.wav" WAVE
    INDEX 01 00:00:00

dBpoweramp tries to retrieve from the generic databases first, and only a few ISRC come up.
Going for the "Metadata icon" -> "Retried Metadata From..." -> "CD-ISRC" doesn't change anything because there is no ISRC on CD.

https://ibb.co/vD7BWGx

So I guess, a desirable behavior would be:
- Always try to get the ISRC from the CD first, not the Metadata providers (they actually have quite a few of them wrong) - do it like EAC does (no hyphens, if found).
- If the CD doesn't have it, then rely on the Metadata providers and hope for the best.
- If that column is not completed, one can complete manually by going to https://isrcsearch.ifpi.org/.

Talk about tagging OCD, huh?

Cheers.