Custom Naming

[Supernaut]

Re: Custom Naming

I did put Ziggy Stardust: The Motion Picture as a David Bowie album, but it is a Bowie album.

My wife has hundreds of Compilation albums, so OST works very well in keeping soundtracks together. Obviously could search by Genre as I have OST tagged as Soundtrack, but it gives a bit more flexibility and works for me.

I've been thinking about doing the same thing! Like you say, on a soundtrack where all the tracks are by the same artist, I would probably save that under the artist's name and not OST. As for genres, that's the last point where I'm still undecided on what to do. I've been looking at the AllMusic and Discogs lists of genres to get some ideas, but it isn't easy. Styles is another tag that I think could be interesting to keep, but it doesn't seem to serve much purpose other than that. Hopefully I'll come to a decision soon!

[Oggy]

Re: Custom Naming

Do you have OST as the album artist for all soundtracks? That actually makes a lot of sense, especially if the soundtrack is a compilation.

I did put Ziggy Stardust: The Motion Picture as a David Bowie album, but it is a Bowie album.

My wife has hundreds of Compilation albums, so OST works very well in keeping soundtracks together. Obviously could search by Genre as I have OST tagged as Soundtrack, but it gives a bit more flexibility and works for me.

[garym]

Re: Custom Naming

Great!

[Oggy]

Re: Custom Naming

Oggy, try this:

[MAXLENGTH]240,[IFCOMP]Compilations\[album]\[IFMULTI]Disk [disc]\[disc]-[][track] [artist] - [title][][IF!COMP][IFVALUE]album artist,[album artist],[artist][]\[album]\[IFMULTI]Disk [disc]\[disc]-[][track] [artist] - [title][][]

Bingo Gary. Thank you for giving me such a powerful, yet easy to use single string which replicates my single and multi strings. I use Disc so:-


[MAXLENGTH]240,[IFCOMP]Compilations\[album]\[IFMULTI]Disc [disc]\[disc]-[][track] [artist] - [title][][IF!COMP][IFVALUE]album artist,[album artist],[artist][]\[album]\[IFMULTI]Disc [disc]\[disc]-[][track] [artist] - [title][][]

[garym]

Re: Custom Naming

Oggy, try this:

[MAXLENGTH]240,[IFCOMP]Compilations\[album]\[IFMULTI]Disk [disc]\[disc]-[][track] [artist] - [title][][IF!COMP][IFVALUE]album artist,[album artist],[artist][]\[album]\[IFMULTI]Disk [disc]\[disc]-[][track] [artist] - [title][][]

[garym]

Re: Custom Naming

Is the only thing missing the disc number in front of track on multi. Otherwise ok??

Tracks 1-01,1-02 Tracks 2-01, 2-02

And do you want artist name in file name as well as an artist folder. That&*8217;s what you had before???

[garym]

Re: Custom Naming

Thank you for the strings and I hope you get as much enjoyment from the coding as you have the coffee and jazz!

To be honest I've used the two strings for five years, so reducing them down to one but with the same results would be helpful, but not a priority - Supernaut's thread for some reason had me looking at the possibility.

I've had a play, but so far have not got the desired result which is:-

Single albums

Album Artist / Artist

Album

Track 01, 02 etc.



Multi albums

Album Artist / Artist

Album

Disc 1 Disc 2

Tracks 1-01,1-02 Tracks 2-01, 2-02

Is the only thing missing the disc number in front of track on multi. Otherwise ok??

Tracks 1-01,1-02 Tracks 2-01, 2-02

[Oggy]

Re: Custom Naming

Oggy, use this instead. works the same, but the "coding" is technically more correct.

[MAXLENGTH]240,[IFCOMP]Compilations\[album]\[IFMULTI]Disk [disc]\[][track] [artist] - [title][][IF!COMP][IFVALUE]album artist,[album artist],[artist][]\[album]\[IFMULTI]Disk [disc]\[][track] [artist] - [title][][]

(I'm enjoying a nice Sunday morning, drinking coffee, listening to jazz vocal music on WBGO, and coding naming strings!)

Thank you for the strings and I hope you get as much enjoyment from the coding as you have the coffee and jazz!

To be honest I've used the two strings for five years, so reducing them down to one but with the same results would be helpful, but not a priority - Supernaut's thread for some reason had me looking at the possibility.

I've had a play, but so far have not got the desired result which is:-

Single albums

Album Artist / Artist

Album

Track 01, 02 etc.



Multi albums

Album Artist / Artist

Album

Disc 1 Disc 2

Tracks 1-01,1-02 Tracks 2-01, 2-02

[garym]

Re: Custom Naming

try this Oggy

[MAXLENGTH]240,[IFCOMP]Compilations\[album]\[IFMULTI]Disk [disc][]\[track] [artist] - [title][][IF!COMP][IFVALUE]album artist,[album artist],[artist][]\[album]\[IFMULTI]Disk [disc][]\[track] [artist] - [title][][]

Oggy, use this instead. works the same, but the "coding" is technically more correct.

[MAXLENGTH]240,[IFCOMP]Compilations\[album]\[IFMULTI]Disk [disc]\[][track] [artist] - [title][][IF!COMP][IFVALUE]album artist,[album artist],[artist][]\[album]\[IFMULTI]Disk [disc]\[][track] [artist] - [title][][]

(I'm enjoying a nice Sunday morning, drinking coffee, listening to jazz vocal music on WBGO, and coding naming strings!)

[garym]

Re: Custom Naming

try this Oggy

[MAXLENGTH]240,[IFCOMP]Compilations\[album]\[IFMULTI]Disk [disc][]\[track] [artist] - [title][][IF!COMP][IFVALUE]album artist,[album artist],[artist][]\[album]\[IFMULTI]Disk [disc][]\[track] [artist] - [title][][]

[Oggy]

Re: Custom Naming

oggy, I see your strings are slightly different. Here's a single string you can use for single or multi-disk (and it will automatically deal with multidisks properly). And it doesn't create a separate folder for disks, it just puts the disk number and hyphen before the track number when there are multidisks, but doesn't do this for a single disk. Let me know if that's what you're wanting, or something slightly different.

[MAXLENGTH]240,[IFCOMP]Compilations\[album]\[IFMULTI][disc]-[][track] [artist] - [title][][IF!COMP][IFVALUE]album artist,[album artist],[artist][]\[album]\[IFMULTI][disc]-[][track] [artist] - [title][][]

Gary thank you. That is perfect for my friend's need and works exactly as described, I would like the same but putting each disc into their own folder for multis, please.

I'm sure I could work this out, but having my beautiful son who is Autistic "helping", tasks like this tend to be time consuming. I have just had to re-type some of this after his assistance.

[Supernaut]

Re: Custom Naming

Yes, I do exactly as you've suggested, put a comment in square brackets (round brackets is for the title) if I have more than one mastering / pressing. I used MFSL for the Mo-Fi DSOTM and used the MFSL cover. For The Beatles added nothing to the original 1989 releases, Remaster, Mono and Mono / Stereo. If I don't need to add anything (for example a DCC being my only pressing, then I don't).
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In most cases, my preference is to add nothing, or as little as possible. This is simple to change in the future if I get another pressing.
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When a remastering is very obviously better, such as David Bowie: Pin Ups with the 2015 mastering over the 1999, i've deleted the 1999.

That's great advice, thank you. I also like to add as little as possible, but I think having [MFSL] or [DCC] in the album title actually looks quite good! I hadn't even thought about the MFSL covers being different, so I'm glad you reminded me. Half of my CD collection (pre-2000) is stored in sleeves without the liner notes, which are in a separate box. I'll have to dig them out and check (also to check the other metadata is correct).

I also have a preferred version of most CDs, so I'll only be ripping that one in most instances. There are a few, however, which differ enough that I'll want to rip both.

Supernaut, I had hoped that having Discs in their own folders would combine them on all modern players and apps, but a friend tried this naming string and on one app. only the first disc played - all the discs have to be in a single folder for continuous play. This seems to be unusual, but unfortunately it is possible and that could be useful to know.

As I mentioned in another thread, my playback software seems to be something of a mixed bag. On my PC and one of my portable apps, all discs from different folders are automatically grouped. On my other portable player they aren't, although there is a setting to ignore the file path and group tracks with the same album name and album artist ID (which does the same job). None of the software supports SORT tags, although I may still include them.

supernaugt, I do like Oggy. for different versions of albums, I put something in [brackets] in the actual album name tag. Like his, I have 89 beatles release just as album name, but I also have 2009 releases, so I have, for example, three different album names: Revolver, Revolver [Mono], Revolver [Stereo]. Another example is Jackson Browne: Late for the Sky, Late for the Sky [DCC Gold], Late for the Sky {2014 Remaster]. Same thing for the Rollling Stones, e.g., Aftermath [2002 Remaster], Aftermath [UK 2002 Remaster], Aftermath [Mono Box Set], Aftermath [UK Mono Box Set] (yes, UK and US versions of this album have different track listings as was common back then).

But for all these albums, regardless of the name, I use the original album release date for the DATE tag. I want to know something is a 1966 album even if remastered in 2002.

Thanks, garym. Again, great advice for labelling remasters and reissues. I 'll probably end up doing something very similar.

[garym]

Re: Custom Naming

oggy, I see your strings are slightly different. Here's a single string you can use for single or multi-disk (and it will automatically deal with multidisks properly). And it doesn't create a separate folder for disks, it just puts the disk number and hyphen before the track number when there are multidisks, but doesn't do this for a single disk. Let me know if that's what you're wanting, or something slightly different.

[MAXLENGTH]240,[IFCOMP]Compilations\[album]\[IFMULTI][disc]-[][track] [artist] - [title][][IF!COMP][IFVALUE]album artist,[album artist],[artist][]\[album]\[IFMULTI][disc]-[][track] [artist] - [title][][]

[garym]

Re: Custom Naming

supernaugt, I do like Oggy. for different versions of albums, I put something in [brackets] in the actual album name tag. Like his, I have 89 beatles release just as album name, but I also have 2009 releases, so I have, for example, three different album names: Revolver, Revolver [Mono], Revolver [Stereo]. Another example is Jackson Browne: Late for the Sky, Late for the Sky [DCC Gold], Late for the Sky {2014 Remaster]. Same thing for the Rollling Stones, e.g., Aftermath [2002 Remaster], Aftermath [UK 2002 Remaster], Aftermath [Mono Box Set], Aftermath [UK Mono Box Set] (yes, UK and US versions of this album have different track listings as was common back then).

But for all these albums, regardless of the name, I use the original album release date for the DATE tag. I want to know something is a 1966 album even if remastered in 2002.

[Oggy]

Re: Custom Naming

Do you have OST as the album artist for all soundtracks? That actually makes a lot of sense, especially if the soundtrack is a compilation.

Actually, Oggy, you've reminded me of something else that I was going to ask regarding naming. I have a number of albums in more than one pressing (remasters, reissues, etc.). I think I remember you mentioning in another thread that you save albums with their original release date so that they can be displayed chronologically, and wondered how you deal with such re-released material.

In addition, I have a lot of Japanese releases which often contain one or two extra tracks at the end, and the album title retrieved from online databases usually contains a [Bonus Tracks] or [Japan] designation in the title, which I don't particularly like and almost always delete before ripping. I also have quite a few gold discs released by labels such as DCC and Mobile Fidelity, which have the same track listings as the original releases but might be worth labelling differently. Something like "Dark Side Of The Moon [Mo-Fi]", or "Waiting For The Sun [Gold]". I could probably just put this information in the metadata, but that wouldn't be obvious when browsing my music library.

Anyway, I just thought I'd ask seeing as I don't have any more technical questions. At least not at the moment.

Hi Supernaut - yes I use OST for all soundtracks.

Yes, I do exactly as you've suggested, put a comment in square brackets (round brackets is for the title) if I have more than one mastering / pressing. I used MFSL for the Mo-Fi DSOTM and used the MFSL cover. For The Beatles added nothing to the original 1989 releases, Remaster, Mono and Mono / Stereo. If I don't need to add anything (for example a DCC being my only pressing, then I don't).

Again this is personal preference,so using what is the most instinctive makes sense. I've also used 24/96, Vinyl Rip, 2003 Mix, Expanded etc. and all versions (including later mixes) I use the original release date.

If I know the CD has bonus tracks from the LP, I originally added [Bonus Track] to those tracks only, but have replaced that with a * with a single space before it. This is really neat as it displays on my players and apps - but not so clever if the filename is used.

In most cases, my preference is to add nothing, or as little as possible. This is simple to change in the future if I get another pressing.

When a remastering is very obviously better, such as David Bowie: Pin Ups with the 2015 mastering over the 1999, i've deleted the 1999.

The point to all of this is we are creating personal libraries, but not only do we have different balances to our music collection, we have different personal preferences and different equipment, so occasionally we have to work around the limitations of the players and apps.

I see you've settled on Gary's naming scheme, which with only minor tweaks has worked extremely well for me.

I actually have two naming strings, one for single discs, where I leave Disc blank and one for multi where Disc is populated with for example 1/3, 23, 3/3. I use Pad track number to 2 digits (ie 02) in CD Ripper Options.

For your interest and to show just how much appreciation I owe Gary (and everyone else who have helped me and countless others), here are my naming strings.

Single

[MAXLENGTH]240,[IFCOMP]Compilations\[album] [IFMULTI] \Disc [disc][]\[track] [artist] - [title][][IF!COMP][IFVALUE]album artist,[album artist],[artist][]\[album][IFMULTI] \Disc [disc][]\[track] [artist] - [title][][]



Multi

[MAXLENGTH]240,[IFCOMP]Compilations\[album] [IFMULTI] \Disc [disc][]\[Disc]-[track] [artist] - [title][][IF!COMP][IFVALUE]album artist,[album artist],[artist][]\[album][IFMULTI] \Disc [disc][]\[Disc]-[track] [artist] - [title][][]


As you can see I followed Gary's example of one disc per folder and use Folder.jpg for each disc (not embedded), which makes changing cover art a breeze (and saved me a lot of time with my early errors!).

Unlike Gary I add Artist, or Album Artist to every track.

The only difference in the multiple naming string is the [Disc] -
If I had known what I was doing, I would have tried to combine these in one naming string, so you only get the Disc number and hyphen if Disc is populated, ie 2-01 and 01 if Disc blank.

Gary, could you help on this please?


Supernaut, I had hoped that having Discs in their own folders would combine them on all modern players and apps, but a friend tried this naming string and on one app. only the first disc played - all the discs have to be in a single folder for continuous play. This seems to be unusual, but unfortunately it is possible and that could be useful to know.