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  • 808beats
    dBpoweramp Enthusiast

    • Dec 2017
    • 52

    White border

    When I rip tracks with dbpoweramp, there is a jpg file that gets created, called Folder.

    Within minutes, that Folder.jpg gets hidden, and thus creates a white border around the Folder artwork.

    Why does this happen, and is there anything I can do to stop it happening?

    And yes, I have my hidden files and folders ticked and on show.
  • Dat Ei
    dBpoweramp Guru

    • Feb 2014
    • 1790

    #2
    Re: White border

    Originally posted by 808beats
    Within minutes, that Folder.jpg gets hidden, and thus creates a white border around the Folder artwork.
    Where is it hidden from what? Which programm shows this effect?

    Further: what OS are you using? What music player do you use?


    Dat Ei

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    • Spoon
      Administrator
      • Apr 2002
      • 44583

      #3
      Re: White border

      It is likely Windows Media player is taking over that file and replacing it with its own.
      Spoon
      www.dbpoweramp.com

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      • 808beats
        dBpoweramp Enthusiast

        • Dec 2017
        • 52

        #4
        Re: White border

        Originally posted by Dat Ei
        Where is it hidden from what? Which programm shows this effect?

        Further: what OS are you using? What music player do you use?


        Dat Ei
        Within minutes, the folder.jpg disappears, as if it wasn't there in the first place. I view my mp3's in the "My Music" folder on my PC. I am using Windows 10, and I alternate between WMP and Groove.

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        • 808beats
          dBpoweramp Enthusiast

          • Dec 2017
          • 52

          #5
          Re: White border

          Originally posted by Spoon
          It is likely Windows Media player is taking over that file and replacing it with its own.
          I'd be surprised if that was the case, as plenty of my mp3's are rare, and don't get found on the internet.

          This also happened when I used the Groove player....

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          • mville
            dBpoweramp Guru

            • Dec 2008
            • 4021

            #6
            Re: White border

            Originally posted by 808beats
            Within minutes, the folder.jpg disappears, as if it wasn't there in the first place. I view my mp3's in the "My Music" folder on my PC. I am using Windows 10, and I alternate between WMP and Groove.
            Allowing Windows Media Player to access/control your audio library is likely to be the cause of your issues. If you search these forums you will find similar problems.

            I would not be surprised if Groove adds a whole set of headaches, also.
            Last edited by mville; December 18, 2017, 11:15 AM. Reason: added Groove ref

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            • Dat Ei
              dBpoweramp Guru

              • Feb 2014
              • 1790

              #7
              Re: White border

              The problem is, that the WMP edits your files if it is configured to handle and manage your music files. Once your files are edited, it doesn't matter which player you will use for playing. The best choice is to uninstall WMP, or to stop WMP to manage your music files and to store the music files in a Folder different to the standard folder of WMP.


              Dat Ei

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              • 808beats
                dBpoweramp Enthusiast

                • Dec 2017
                • 52

                #8
                Re: White border

                I have had this problem for over 12 months now. I have only been using WMP for a week, and was using Groove before that.

                If I remove both Programs, which player shall I use to play my mp3's?

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                • Spoon
                  Administrator
                  • Apr 2002
                  • 44583

                  #9
                  Re: White border

                  You do not need to remove them, there is a option buried in WMP which stops wmp from downloading art and overwriting the existing.

                  Folder.jpg is not being deleted, it is being hidden (if you set Windows explorer to show hidden files it will show).
                  Spoon
                  www.dbpoweramp.com

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                  • 808beats
                    dBpoweramp Enthusiast

                    • Dec 2017
                    • 52

                    #10
                    Re: White border

                    Originally posted by Spoon
                    there is a option buried in WMP which stops wmp from downloading art and overwriting the existing.
                    I had already turned that option off.

                    Originally posted by Spoon
                    Folder.jpg is not being deleted, it is being hidden (if you set Windows explorer to show hidden files it will show).
                    I already have the show hidden files box ticked, so it shouldn't hide them. The Folder.jpg is there momentarily, and it then disappears.

                    That's when the white border shows.
                    Last edited by 808beats; December 18, 2017, 12:05 PM.

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                    • Spoon
                      Administrator
                      • Apr 2002
                      • 44583

                      #11
                      Re: White border

                      You can post a screen shot? of this white border.
                      Spoon
                      www.dbpoweramp.com

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                      • 808beats
                        dBpoweramp Enthusiast

                        • Dec 2017
                        • 52

                        #12
                        Re: White border

                        Click image for larger version

Name:	Capture.jpg
Views:	1
Size:	93.6 KB
ID:	293774

                        Top row, left to right. Folders 1,2, & 3 are fine. 4,5, & 6 have a white border.

                        Second row are all fine.

                        Now look inside one of the folders. The first folder view is fine, but all others show a white border.

                        Click image for larger version

Name:	Capture 2.JPG
Views:	1
Size:	34.4 KB
ID:	293775

                        Inside one folder

                        Click image for larger version

Name:	Capture 3.JPG
Views:	1
Size:	80.4 KB
ID:	293776

                        and inside another folder

                        Click image for larger version

Name:	Capture 4.JPG
Views:	1
Size:	47.5 KB
ID:	293777


                        One folder has a Folder.jpg inside, the other doesn't.

                        Both should have.
                        Last edited by 808beats; December 18, 2017, 03:55 PM.

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                        • mville
                          dBpoweramp Guru

                          • Dec 2008
                          • 4021

                          #13
                          Re: White border

                          Do as Dat Ei suggested and re-rip a CD with incorrect artwork to a different location. Make sure Groove and WMP do not have access to this new location and do not open the files in Groove and WMP.

                          Is the artwork as expected or is it changed as previously described?

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                          • 808beats
                            dBpoweramp Enthusiast

                            • Dec 2017
                            • 52

                            #14
                            Re: White border

                            Yesterday, I got rid of all files from both WMP and Groove.

                            I then deleted and re-ripped a CD to the My Music folder. I checked an hour later, and the artwork (Folder.jpg) was still in view, and there was no white border on the front
                            .
                            I will keep a check over the next day or so, but I think I may have found the problem.

                            That doesn't make those files that are hidden come back into view though, even though I have the box ticked to view hidden files.

                            It looks like I may have to re-rip loads of stuff and never put my collection into a player any more.

                            I can still play the mp3's through both players, I just won't add them to the player's Library itself.

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                            • mville
                              dBpoweramp Guru

                              • Dec 2008
                              • 4021

                              #15
                              Re: White border

                              Originally posted by 808beats
                              Yesterday, I got rid of all files from both WMP and Groove.

                              I then deleted and re-ripped a CD to the My Music folder. I checked an hour later, and the artwork (Folder.jpg) was still in view, and there was no white border on the front
                              This is what I'd expect.

                              Originally posted by 808beats
                              I will keep a check over the next day or so, but I think I may have found the problem.

                              That doesn't make those files that are hidden come back into view though, even though I have the box ticked to view hidden files.

                              It looks like I may have to re-rip loads of stuff and never put my collection into a player any more.

                              I can still play the mp3's through both players, I just won't add them to the player's Library itself.
                              Well, at least not the built-in Microsoft libraries, as used in Groove and/or WMP. There are players out there that build libraries fine, like foobar2000.

                              The problem with modern computing is that Microsoft, Google, Apple et al are trying to track and control everything we do. I find it bewildering that often, without the users' knowledge, they edit data on a PC that does not belong to them. What also drives me mad here is they make assumptions about what is best for the user, when they have absolutely no idea, harumph .

                              BTW, why not rip to flac instead of mp3?
                              Last edited by mville; December 19, 2017, 12:31 PM. Reason: changed text

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