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  • schloss2

    • Nov 2017
    • 5

    Track order in files

    I have noticed that although dbpoweramp ripped the tracks in order,
    they are not always stored that way in the encoded file.

    In some cases they are and in others they appear in almost random order

    Any thoughts on how to:

    a) Prevent this from happening
    b) Fix the problem short of re-ripping or manually re-sequencing the tracks in the saved file.

    Thank you … Mark
  • mville
    dBpoweramp Guru

    • Dec 2008
    • 4021

    #2
    Re: Track order in files

    Are you able to post a screenshot, showing/explaining the random behaviour you describe?

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    • schloss2

      • Nov 2017
      • 5

      #3
      Re: Track order in files

      I attached a copy of the Paganini's 24 Violin Caprices.

      The tracks are in random order 25, 7, 24, 12, 2, 13 ....
      instead of 1, 2, ... 24.

      I have ripped a large collection of cd's and noticed the problem on select discs.
      Some are in perfect sequence and others appear random even though they were
      ripped the same way.

      Your advice is appreciated.



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      • Dat Ei
        dBpoweramp Guru

        • Feb 2014
        • 1786

        #4
        Re: Track order in files

        Hey Mark,

        Originally posted by schloss2
        I have noticed that although dbpoweramp ripped the tracks in order,
        they are not always stored that way in the encoded file.
        to tell you the brutal truth: there is no sort order of the tracks in your storage at all!

        The order always depends on the sorting of the program which displays your tracks. I.e.: Windows file explorer sorts the tracks depending on your default sort column or the column you click on. A Windows standard installation would sort the tracks by the file name. For that case you need leading track numbers in your filenames. Other program (i.e. intelligent music player) are able to sort your files by the track number embeded in your tags.

        From my Point of view: use track numbers as part your filenames for stupid players and programs (i.e. car audio systems) and use the tag track number in your meta data for intelligent programs.


        Dat Ei
        Last edited by Dat Ei; November 02, 2017, 03:14 PM.

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        • mville
          dBpoweramp Guru

          • Dec 2008
          • 4021

          #5
          Re: Track order in files

          Originally posted by schloss2
          I attached a copy of the Paganini's 24 Violin Caprices.

          The tracks are in random order 25, 7, 24, 12, 2, 13 ....
          instead of 1, 2, ... 24.
          They are not in random order at all, they are in alphabetical order.

          As Dat Ei has stated, the order is defined by the application you are using to view the files e.g. Windows File Explorer or Apple Mac Finder.

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          • schloss2

            • Nov 2017
            • 5

            #6
            Re: Track order in files

            I checked more files. It seems that those in track sequence have a track number as the first two characters in the track name.
            Some file have it others do not yet they were all ripped by dbpoweramp the same way.
            Is there a parameter in dbpoweramp that adds the track number to the file name that somehow got turned off ?

            It looks like I either have to add the prefix manually to those affected files or re-rip the discs and have dbpoweramp do it for me if it can..Your suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thank you all

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            • Spoon
              Administrator
              • Apr 2002
              • 44511

              #7
              Re: Track order in files

              The default naming string always includes track number at the beginning of the filename, check you are using the default naming string.
              Spoon
              www.dbpoweramp.com

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              • mville
                dBpoweramp Guru

                • Dec 2008
                • 4021

                #8
                Re: Track order in files

                Originally posted by schloss2
                I checked more files. It seems that those in track sequence have a track number as the first two characters in the track name.
                Some file have it others do not yet they were all ripped by dbpoweramp the same way.
                Is there a parameter in dbpoweramp that adds the track number to the file name that somehow got turned off ?
                Please post your Naming string in this thread.

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