RE: Ripping Level Question (help?)

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

And it likely won't be the last. As garym mentioned, it's a normal occurrence.

Re-ripping frames does take a long time per frame. I once let a >500-frame re-rip run its course; it took about four hours. (It turns out the disk was completely useless. I had to buy a replacement.)

If that's not bad enough, I recently saw dBpa start re-ripping 21,000+ frames on one track (!). I skipped the track immediately since it would have taken something like a week to finish (if the drive didn't fail) and I had no confidence it would end well anyway. I checked the disc for any obvious flaw after the rip completed and ... well, I guess a 3 mm hole counts as a flaw, eh? I must have mistaken it for part of the artwork. The good news is that only the one track was affected. The better news is that I listed to the track on YouTube and discovered I don't like it at all, so I'm missing a track and I don't care. I got lucky on that one.

There's always something....

JH, Two hours! lol. If you found you had a dodgy CD and it was going to cost (say) £10/$13 to replace it, then would you do so?

Does 1-frame represent 1-digit of binary, would you know, please? Paul

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

You can do whatever you want of course. It's not a law of nature. But that's the only thing that makes any sense to me. Personally, I don't use SORT tags at all.

Yes, I suppose so. I just like to see what other people do and then end up doing a bit of everything. Like pickin' the best bits I like most! Paul.

[Jailhouse]

Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

I have been trying to rip a CD for about an hour now. The final track just won't complete. First, dBpa kept looping stating: 'ultra secure' (it tried about 8 of these! And now it it ripping in: 'Frames'

I tried taking out the CD and wiping it. There are no scratches. First time this has happened.

And it likely won't be the last. As garym mentioned, it's a normal occurrence.

Re-ripping frames does take a long time per frame. I once let a >500-frame re-rip run its course; it took about four hours. (It turns out the disk was completely useless. I had to buy a replacement.)

If that's not bad enough, I recently saw dBpa start re-ripping 21,000+ frames on one track (!). I skipped the track immediately since it would have taken something like a week to finish (if the drive didn't fail) and I had no confidence it would end well anyway. I checked the disc for any obvious flaw after the rip completed and ... well, I guess a 3 mm hole counts as a flaw, eh? I must have mistaken it for part of the artwork. The good news is that only the one track was affected. The better news is that I listed to the track on YouTube and discovered I don't like it at all, so I'm missing a track and I don't care. I got lucky on that one.

There's always something....

[garym]

Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

OK, thanks. So no reordering of names for ARTIST_SORT then (ie. when: Sextet/Quartet etc). But, when both the ARTIST and ALBUM_ARTIST is: 'Miles Davis' (which will crop up on a few CDs), then should I use: "Davis, Miles" for both? Cheers.

You can do whatever you want of course. It's not a law of nature. But that's the only thing that makes any sense to me. Personally, I don't use SORT tags at all.

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

I'd make ARTISTSORT = "Miles Davis Sextet" and ALBUMARTISTSORT = "Davis, Miles"

OK, thanks. So no reordering of names for ARTIST_SORT then (ie. when: Sextet/Quartet etc). But, when both the ARTIST and ALBUM_ARTIST is: 'Miles Davis' (which will crop up on a few CDs), then should I use: "Davis, Miles" for both? Cheers.

[garym]

Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

Much cheaper that I would have thought!

More expensive drives don't necessarily rip better. I've got a couple of 15 year old cheap drives I've saved and have installed in my work "desktop" computer. These are great for ripping!

[garym]

Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

Gary, that's interesting about the 'Tribute' recordings. I had not thought about that. Paul

For example "The Pyramid Meets the Eye" is a tribute album to Roky Erickson. There are lots of different artists (but NOT Roky Erickson). But I put "Roky Erickson" as ALBUM ARTIST so when I browse artists in my library, this tribute album shows up with my actual Roky Erickson albums.

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

My laptops no longer have CD drives either. I use USB 3.0 connected drives, such as:

Enclosure:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0093HKFYW/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Drive:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Much cheaper that I would have thought!

[garym]

Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

... also, please, if 'Miles Davis Sextet' is the ARTIST, then how do I configure ARTIST SORT? Typically, if just a christian and surname then one would write: 'Smith, John'. But 'Miles Davis Sextet' has three components?! Paul

I'd make ARTISTSORT = "Miles Davis Sextet" and ALBUMARTISTSORT = "Davis, Miles"

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

Correct, for most artists I have, the ARTIST and ALBUM ARTIST would be the same (e.g., The Beatles for both). In my personal scheme I leave ALBUM ARTIST blank unless something like the Miles Davis or Doug Sahm examples, or if it is, for example, a tribute album to an artist (and I make the ALBUM ARTIST whoever the tribute is to). This said, many people fill ALBUM ARTIST always.

Gary, that's interesting about the 'Tribute' recordings. I had not thought about that. Paul

[garym]

Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

Hi Gary, I was thinking of buying a second laptop (for for work, one for home) but I am still toying with the idea of the Amazon Fire HD8. But the latter does not have a CD drive.

All of my CDs are in good condition although quite a few of the cases are cracked, and I am noticing the booklets to start yellowing with age. Paul

My laptops no longer have CD drives either. I use USB 3.0 connected drives, such as:

Enclosure:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0093HKFYW/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Drive:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002YIG9AQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

... also, please, if 'Miles Davis Sextet' is the ARTIST, then how do I configure ARTIST SORT? Typically, if just a christian and surname then one would write: 'Smith, John'. But 'Miles Davis Sextet' has three components?! Paul

[garym]

Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

Cheers Gary, That's a very good explanation. But in the case of 'The Beatles', would both the ARTIST and ALBUM ARTIST fields be: 'The Beatles'? I mean, there is no personal name; but rather an ensemble name. Paul

Correct, for most artists I have, the ARTIST and ALBUM ARTIST would be the same (e.g., The Beatles for both). In my personal scheme I leave ALBUM ARTIST blank unless something like the Miles Davis or Doug Sahm examples, or if it is, for example, a tribute album to an artist (and I make the ALBUM ARTIST whoever the tribute is to). This said, many people fill ALBUM ARTIST always.

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

I put the actual artist name for the CD in the ARTIST name (e.g., Miles Davis Sextet) and then put Miles Davis in ALBUM ARTIST. For example, for Doug Sahm, I might have any of these CDs by him under these names:

Sir Douglas Quintet
Doug Sahm & Band
Sir Douglas Quintet Plus 5
The Masked Men
and on and on.

But for all these, I use "Doug Sahm" in the ALBUM ARTIST.

Cheers Gary, That's a very good explanation. But in the case of 'The Beatles', would both the ARTIST and ALBUM ARTIST fields be: 'The Beatles'? I mean, there is no personal name; but rather an ensemble name. Paul

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: Ripping Level Question (help?)

You can always add another drive to your existing PC. I use a second full size drive in a USB housing that I simply connect to my PC via USB cable.

Note that you will not necessarily see anything wrong with a CD. I've had brand new, out of the package, never played CDs that had ripping problems. Probably a minor manufacturing defect. Also keep in mind that I've had some rips where a track never got a secure rip, but yet a close listen seemed that it played OK. Keep in mind that what makes it insecure might only be a few frames, which could be .00001 of a second in time (just making that up, but think "tiny, tiny amount of time").

Hi Gary, I was thinking of buying a second laptop (for for work, one for home) but I am still toying with the idea of the Amazon Fire HD8. But the latter does not have a CD drive.

All of my CDs are in good condition although quite a few of the cases are cracked, and I am noticing the booklets to start yellowing with age. Paul