Sorry, 2 Newbie questions: Purchase software for Mac and Windows&ripping uncompressed

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Re: Sorry, 2 Newbie questions: Purchase software for Mac and Windows&ripping uncompre

So is it fair to say that this special mode (lossless uncompressed to get a resulting audio file
comparably sized with .wav and/or .aiff) is proprietary software within dbpoweramp software and
is independent to the flac command or program?
Is this a special case issue and one cannot duplicate it using flac or EAC by changing
the command line options and switches ?
If not, then is it possible to find out what the command line options should be
to not use the -6 or -8 level of compression and generate a larger file with the .flac benefits?
I do not know why this is so difficult to find out even EAC is giving me a hard time getting
this information. And this is supposed to be open source software? And I cannot find out what
the proper command line options are or should be? I guess I will have to download the source
and analyze the code to figure this out?

I had a difficult time replying to this...
this site does not seem to be friendly with replies being censored, blocked or whatever...

[Spoon]

Re: Sorry, 2 Newbie questions: Purchase software for Mac and Windows&ripping uncompre

There is no command line to do flac uncompressed, as far as I know.

The uncompressed mode does take less cpu effort to decode that is correct.

[currter]

Re: Sorry, 2 Newbie questions: Purchase software for Mac and Windows&ripping uncompre

I think some of my postings are censored or not going through...
I think I said I guess I got it all wrong as far as the pricing thinking $28...
when it is $68. OH well I am a newbie so that explains that.

Also is there a command line flag/switch option to flac executable to bypass the
numeric level compression (1 to 8) to do uncompressed lossless?
I am exploring something else... maybe to use EAC on WIndows and reserve
purchasing dbpowerAmp for the Mac that way I can just buy one copy.

is it flac -6 (for level 6 compression) but instead flac --bps=16 --sample=44100 --bit-rate=1412 ...
or some form like that?

[currter]

Re: Sorry, 2 Newbie questions: Purchase software for Mac and Windows&ripping uncompre

Also I was thinking it would require more processing of the CPU to "decompress"or "uncompress"
the a flac compressed audio (at the various levels ) to essentially recover the original .wav or .aiff
form so since I am not concerned about hard disk (3 TB) or flash drive or SD card (64GB to 128GB )
space limitations, I would want to rip the audio files at the maximum CD quality sizes even though
I know and hear that all flac files are lossless regardless of the compression levels (and can
save space on the storage devices which I am not concerned given the wealth of storage capacities
I have now).

so this is why I have chosen to use lossless uncompressed (is that a word?) and I get the
added benefits of having the tag and album cover and art images added into each .flac file
for display on my audio/video device (Sony or Pioneer car stereos).
also why make the stereo work any harder than necessary translating the compressed files back to
wav (analog)... thus my reasoning for using lossless uncompressed -- unless I got it all wrong?

Thank you.

Again, I am just learning more about the benefits of flac and I just filled out a
form to Apple support to hopefully add flac support in iTunes.
(and sent a copy Apple's CEO by email).

TC

[Spoon]

Re: Sorry, 2 Newbie questions: Purchase software for Mac and Windows&ripping uncompre

Flac uncompressed can still compress under certain circumstances (such as the audio is digital 000's).

If you purchase for 1 platform, then on the download page is an offer link with a 50% discount on a 2nd purchase.

[currter]

Re: Sorry, 2 Newbie questions: Purchase software for Mac and Windows&ripping uncompre

so in essence would you say and confirm that .flac that is uncompressed lossless (fully) is
essentially the .wav file but with metadata (images)?

I think so and I need to know this... as I am about to embark re-ripping the massive CD
library yet again and want to do this right this time....the first time I was not thinking about
metadata when I ripped everything to .wav but realize my car stereo can display that so
why not take advantage of that.
And I have an extra, free 1 TB hard drive...

And maybe $60 is not too much to pay to get the sofware on both operating systems
but if I could save money a bit, why not take advantage of that too.

[currter]

Re: Sorry, 2 Newbie questions: Purchase software for Mac and Windows&ripping uncompre

1) The software is either Windows or Mac, until you decide you can try the 21 day full trial on each platform.

Well, I may have made a mistake by downloading the 21 day trial software on both platforms and
I have decided that I do want to purchase the software eventually. I guess my question was if I really
want to use both mac and windows with it, would I have to purchase the software twice or could I use
the same key on both operating systems? If not, could I get a discount for a "bulk" purchase for both
operating systems? I think at this point I may just worry about getting this for Windows
but again, I do like to go back and forth and though I prefer the Mac over windows... however since I ripped the
CD library of 1200+ CDs using iTunes on the Mac... then as I embark on this project to rip to .flac
using another hard drive, I will use Windows 10 this time. (balance)

Addendum: I had thought about using some batch program or process to just convert all the .wav files
I had processed already, but I am not sure if I would get all the metadata associated with just
re-ripping all the CDs again from scratch and maybe this time get some more analyses done as
far as error corrections if the CDs were slightly damaged or smudged the first time around.
I certainly cannot listen to every song on 1200 CDs to figure out if any have errors , pops, skips...
though I had run across a few and managed to re-rip those cleanly into .wav ....
It is a monumental task and I just want to do it right this time with the added knowledge so
I do not have to do this again with 1200 CDs.



"but would that require more processing of the flac player to use "uncompressing" algorithms to get back the original audio file?"

Yes this is true.

So since I do not care about space limitations on the flash drives and hard drives, your recommendation is just to
rip using the uncompressed lossless form so I get practically the .wav audio file and along with it the metadata
(album cover art)
associated with it in the resulting .flac file; and therefore there would be less or no processing needed when translating the
.flac file back to .wav or when playing the audio on a car stereo such as Sony XAV-650BT or the Pioneer AVH-4200NEX....
Again, my initial exploration into .flac was to rip the files using that level 8 lossless compression resulting in a smaller
file size (maybe by 30%) compared to .wav.
I want to do this right as I will need to take yet another 1 week or more to rip those 1200 CDs yet again and want to make
sure I do this the proper way and this time getting the images of the album data stored.

Thank you for your suggestions.

[Spoon]

Re: Sorry, 2 Newbie questions: Purchase software for Mac and Windows&ripping uncompre

1) The software is either Windows or Mac, until you decide you can try the 21 day full trial on each platform.

"but would that require more processing of the flac player to use "uncompressing" algorithms to get back the original audio file?"

Yes this is true.

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1) I would like to know if I could make a one purchase for $30 and use the
software on both Windows and Mac as I use the two interchangeably on a Macbook
Pro (Bootcamp and Parallels)? Or do I have to purchase twice, one for Mac and one for
Windows as I decide which OS is better accomplishing goal of re-ripping a 1200+ CD collection.
I used iTunes to rip to .wav using the Mac ... now I want to try out using .flac
and may just use Windows to do this.

2) In the Encoder section/tab, is there an advantage of ripping the .flac files as
lossless uncompressed as opposed to lossless level 8? I noticed that the resulting
.flac file as uncompressed has a comparable size to the .wav files I am used to
or even .aiff and I would prefer that. Of course I could save space using the
compressed level 8 (default is 5), but would that require more processing of the
flac player to use "uncompressing" algorithms to get back the original audio file?
I do not care for disk capacity issues and so far I am using .wav on various
hard drives (the master copy or source) and flash drives and microSD cards that I may use
in car stereos (FAT32 or exFAT formatted 64 GB storage media ).
For me 1 USB3.0 64GB flash drive can hold about 1400 + or - .wav files which is
sufficient for my purposes.

I may want to explore re-ripping my 1200 CD collection to .flac as it can hold the
meta data and I can see the album cover images on the Sony or Pioneer
car stereo systems. I am not sure if I can view the same images using .wav files.
I am just now exploring the usage of .flac now.

Thank you.


TC