Cannot Create Lossless Uncompressed Rips

[Andreas89]

I'm using CD Ripper on Windows 10. I'm trying to create lossless uncompressed FLAC files. Encoder setting is set to Lossless Uncompressed (see attachment). When I check the ripped track properties in Windows File Explorer, it shows they are 33% compressed. Any idea why this is the case?

[Dat Ei]

Re: Cannot Create Lossless Uncompressed Rips

FLAC is lossless, no matter what compression rate you choose. The compression of FLAC is like the zip compression - you shrink the file size, but keep all infos without any loss. So the compression rate just controls the amount of computing time you invest in the compression - the higher the compression rate, the longer the computing time and the smaller the file size. But to be true - don't expect hugh differences in the file sizes. So the default compression rate of 5 is a good compromise of computing time and file size.


Dat Ei

[Andreas89]

Re: Cannot Create Lossless Uncompressed Rips

Thanks for the response. I want to create lossless FLAC files without compression since I have the space. I was able to do this on a Windows 7 PC. Now that I moved to a Windows 10 PC, it does not work even though I use the same settings.

[mjt5282]

Re: Cannot Create Lossless Uncompressed Rips

what streamer or playback device are you using to play your flac files ? Have you actually tested whether or not it makes a difference? Windows 10's file explorer integration with flac may be getting confused with compression-less setting.

[garym]

Re: Cannot Create Lossless Uncompressed Rips

Thanks for the response. I want to create lossless FLAC files without compression since I have the space. I was able to do this on a Windows 7 PC. Now that I moved to a Windows 10 PC, it does not work even though I use the same settings.

odd, as a noncompressed FLAC created with dbpa should be much larger (about twice as large) as one with compression set to "8". Not sure what could be causing this and whether it is actually the ripping that is the problem or the "reporting" of size in Windows 10. Try ripping to uncompressed and then to "8" level (same track) and compare the file size in win10. What's the difference?

[Spoon]

Re: Cannot Create Lossless Uncompressed Rips

The uncompressed will still compress under certain circumstances, such as 24bit audio, or if the frames are digital zero (I believe), are just a few.

[Andreas89]

Re: Cannot Create Lossless Uncompressed Rips

odd, as a noncompressed FLAC created with dbpa should be much larger (about twice as large) as one with compression set to "8". Not sure what could be causing this and whether it is actually the ripping that is the problem or the "reporting" of size in Windows 10. Try ripping to uncompressed and then to "8" level (same track) and compare the file size in win10. What's the difference?

I ripped the tracks with a compression setting of 8 and they are about 20% of the size of the ones with the uncompressed setting.

[garym]

Re: Cannot Create Lossless Uncompressed Rips

I ripped the tracks with a compression setting of 8 and they are about 20% of the size of the ones with the uncompressed setting.

that tells me that the setting is working. That is, uncompressed is a LOT larger. The slight compression is I assume what Spoon noted earlier (silence, etc.). But again, for other readers, compression here is NOT lossy compression. All these FLAC files, whatever the compression, decode back to the same bitperfect lossless version of the ripped CD.

[Andreas89]

Re: Cannot Create Lossless Uncompressed Rips

I'm using Windows Media Player for now. I don't have a lossless uncompressed version of the tracks to compare them to the reported 33% compressed version.

[garym]

Re: Cannot Create Lossless Uncompressed Rips

I'm using Windows Media Player for now. I don't have a lossless uncompressed version of the tracks to compare them to the reported 33% compressed version.

Only since win10 does WMP handle FLAC files (as far as I understand) and even there it is not the best FLAC file player and has some issues. If on windows, try Foobar2000. Download from here:
https://www.foobar2000.org/download

p.s I wouldn't let Windows Media Player touch my music library. It does all sorts of terrible things. I've disabled on my windows installs so that I can't accidentally open it.