ReplayGain (Apply) Album Gain vs ReplayGain

[Dat Ei]

Re: ReplayGain (Apply) Album Gain vs ReplayGain

Hey Gary,

How would the ripper know how many more disks were coming?

CD Ripper could imagine how many more disks are coming, because the total number of discs should / could be in the meta data, but still assuming your feeding the CDs in the right order into CD Ripper. What CD Ripper will never know in advance is the necessary and maximum gain for the CDs still to rip.

Then again, if with the lossy files one does lots of random play, track is likely better. After all, when listening to an entire album in iPhone, one can simply temporarily turn off soundcheck in iphone/iPod.

This is a very good point! Thanks for that!


Dat Ei

[daleyb]

Re: ReplayGain (Apply) Album Gain vs ReplayGain

So...If i have a 3 cd disc set, doesn't replay gain automatically know the levels to normalise gain/clipping anyway...I notice on a earlier thread GaryM converts these in the same format (in batch Converter) so all discs are the same..but i thought dsp gain album-track gain did this anyway.?

Also on a homemade cd ripped cd (s) that i have put all into one folder- is it still worth putting back in batch Converter (if still using same format FLAC)...??

[garym]

Re: ReplayGain (Apply) Album Gain vs ReplayGain

So...If i have a 3 cd disc set, doesn't replay gain automatically know the levels to normalise gain/clipping anyway...I notice on a earlier thread GaryM converts these in the same format (in batch Converter) so all discs are the same..but i thought dsp gain album-track gain did this anyway.?

Also on a homemade cd ripped cd (s) that i have put all into one folder- is it still worth putting back in batch Converter (if still using same format FLAC)...??

I don't reconvert the audio of the files, I just redo the replaygain tags for the multi disk albums using RG DSP. Not sure what you mean by auto. Yes, if I select all 3 disks of a 3 disk album and rerun RG DSP to redo treating all 3 as one album then the album RG value will be same for all 3. If I didn't do this after ripping, each of the 3 discs would have different RG album tag values.

[daleyb]

Re: ReplayGain (Apply) Album Gain vs ReplayGain

O.K. think I've got that. But what would happen if you didnt rerun RG DSP TO REDO ALL 3 DISCS..? would the sound be different, files not together..?

[mville]

Re: ReplayGain (Apply) Album Gain vs ReplayGain

O.K. think I've got that. But what would happen if you didnt rerun RG DSP TO REDO ALL 3 DISCS..? would the sound be different, files not together..?

You may (but probably not) notice a very subtle difference in volume levels on playback.

Personally, like garym, I apply ReplayGain, post rip, to the whole multi-disc album.

However, it is not something to be too bothered about.

[daleyb]

Re: ReplayGain (Apply) Album Gain vs ReplayGain

Thanks for info...I Always use dsp replay gain for albums. IS There anyway of setting RG to cover Multi-dics post ripp.If so how..?

[mville]

Re: ReplayGain (Apply) Album Gain vs ReplayGain

Thanks for info...I Always use dsp replay gain for albums. IS There anyway of setting RG to cover Multi-dics post ripp.If so how..?

If not already done, install the Replay Gain R4 utility codec.

Then:
dBpoweramp Batch Converter >> Select album folder(s) >> Convert >> Converting To: RG [ReplayGain]

select your desired Write Option and Advanced Options, then click the Convert button.

What is important to understand here is the relationship between the tracks/folder(s) selected and the Albums Identified By option (Advanced Options) that you use.

[daleyb]

Re: ReplayGain (Apply) Album Gain vs ReplayGain

Thanks again for Info..In Advanced Options would you use ALBUM ID TAG;ALL FILES IN BATCH SAME ALBUM OR FILES IN SAME FOLDER...?

[mville]

Re: ReplayGain (Apply) Album Gain vs ReplayGain

Thanks again for Info..In Advanced Options would you use ALBUM ID TAG;ALL FILES IN BATCH SAME ALBUM OR FILES IN SAME FOLDER...?

I use Album ID Tag as I know that the Album tag is consistent for all selected tracks.

I could use All Files In Batch Same Album, as long as all selected tracks belong to a single album.

Equally, I could use All Files In Same Folder, as all my tracks for a single album are in a single folder.

However, I am aware many dBpoweramp users spread a single album over several folders, where each folder is a different disc as in a multi-disc album. So for the purposes being discussed in this thread, the All Files In Same Folder option would not work for those users.

[garym]

Re: ReplayGain (Apply) Album Gain vs ReplayGain

You may (but probably not) notice a very subtle difference in volume levels on playback.

Personally, like garym, I apply ReplayGain, post rip, to the whole multi-disc album.

However, it is not something to be too bothered about.

agree. I would really only possibly notice if listening to a gapless live album that spans disks, and even then only at the point where the transition takes place if listening carefully.

[daleyb]

Re: ReplayGain (Apply) Album Gain vs ReplayGain

Thanks all for help...